13th & Park
"13th & Park" hosts insightful conversations with special guests covering a broad range of topics from politics and government, to technology, culture, economics and the media. Listeners eavesdrop on what feel like private conversations featuring the savviest and most highly regarded minds in the country. The show, co-hosted by media veterans Adam Goodman and Justin Sayfie, is produced by Ballard Partners in the Ballard Studios in Washington DC.
Framed, F*cked & Freed: Rod Blagojevich's Journey from Public Service to Serving Time | 13th & Park
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Former Illinois Governor Rob Blagojevich joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a raw and wide-ranging conversation tied to his forthcoming memoir, Framed, F*cked, and Freed. Blagojevich walks through the early morning of December 9, 2008, when a 24-member FBI SWAT team and a hostage negotiator arrived at his Chicago home to arrest a sitting governor, and he makes the case that what was done to him was a politically motivated abuse of prosecutorial power that later served as a blueprint for cases brought against Donald Trump.
Blagojevich reflects on what...
Tal Becker: Inside Israel's Diplomatic Battles and the Fight for Its Future | 13th and Park
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Dr. Tal Becker, Senior Fellow at the Hartman Institute and Counsel to Honigman LLP, joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on Israel's security, its global image, and the profound philosophical questions underneath the headlines. One of the key architects of the Abraham Accords and Israel's representative before the International Court of Justice, Becker brings a rare combination of legal precision, diplomatic experience, and moral clarity to a conversation that is as personal as it is geopolitical.
Becker opens with a framing that cuts through much of...
Pavan Agarwal on Why AI Is Fixing What Banks Broke for 40 Years | 13th & Park
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Pavan Agarwal, CEO of Celligence and a pioneer in AI-powered mortgage technology, joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a conversation about one of the most consequential barriers to the American dream: a mortgage system that has remained largely unchanged for four decades. Drawing on more than two decades as a loan officer in South Central Los Angeles and later as a fintech builder, Agarwal traces how a process designed around W-2 workers from the 1960s has systematically shut out gig workers, minorities, veterans, and anyone whose financial life does not fit...
From NFL Kicker to Congressional Candidate in Arizona | Jay Feely on 13th & Park
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Jay Feely spent 14 seasons in the NFL as a place kicker, but his resume extends well beyond the field. After football, he built a career as an NFL broadcaster, served on the NFLPA Executive Committee negotiating billion-dollar collective bargaining agreements, and devoted years to community work in Arizona and abroad. Now he is running for Congress in Arizona's 1st Congressional District, one of the most competitive seats in the country. On 13th and Park, Feely sits down with Adam Goodman for a wide-ranging conversation about what a life lived under pressure actually teaches...
Oklahoma Senator Alan Armstrong on Fixing America's Broken Permitting System | 13th & Park
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Oklahoma Senator Alan Armstrong joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a candid conversation about what happens when a career energy executive trades the boardroom for the Senate floor with a singular mission and a nine-month clock. Armstrong spent nearly four decades at the Williams Companies, rising to CEO of the Tulsa-based firm that handles roughly one-third of America's natural gas, before Governor Stitt tapped him to fill the vacancy left by Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen. His focus from day one: the most comprehensive permitting reform proposal in congressional history.<...
Can Congress Save College Sports Before It's Too Late? Senator Eric Schmitt Says Yes | 13th & Park
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Missouri Senator Eric Schmitt joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a conversation that moves from a viral SportsCenter moment to one of the most personal stories in the United States Senate. Schmitt, a former two-sport college athlete, made a full-extension diving catch at this year's Congressional Baseball Game at Nats Park, bloodied his nose on the warning track, won MVP honors, and landed on ESPN's Top 10. He jokes that more people have stopped him about that play than anything he has accomplished in politics, including a stranger watering flowers near St...
Audrey Tang: Designing AI to Unite Us, Not Divide Us | 13th and Park
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Audrey Tang, Taiwan's former digital minister and one of the world's most recognized civic technologists, joins Adam Goodman and Amy Tong on 13th and Park for a conversation about artificial intelligence, democratic renewal, and how to move a deeply polarized society toward uncommon ground. Tang, now academically based at Oxford, challenges the dominant framing of AI as either existential threat or salvation, arguing that the real problem is the misaligned recommendation engines of 2014 that trained us to mistake outrage for engagement. The path forward, Tang argues, is not to pick a side but...
The Tech Mindset Every Governor Needs to Hear, From California's Former CIO Amy Tong | 13th & Park
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Amy Tong, former California Chief Information Officer and Secretary of Government Operations, and now a Partner with Ballard Partners and Chair of the Emerging Tech and AI Policy Group, joins Adam Goodman and co-host Anthony Williams at Ballard Studios in Washington, DC for a wide-ranging conversation on what it actually takes to modernize government from the inside. Tong arrived in the United States in 1986 as a 12-year-old, landing at San Francisco International Airport with her family and 8 suitcases after her parents, both college professors in China, decided the American university system offered opportunities...
Ambassador Mike Waltz on Iran, Cuba, and Reforming the UN | 13th and Park
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Ambassador Mike Waltz, the 32nd U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations and former Green Beret, joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on American diplomacy, the reform of the United Nations, and the foreign policy vision driving the Trump administration. A decorated combat veteran with four Bronze Stars, including two for valor, Waltz brings a soldier's directness and a businessman's focus on outcomes to one of the most consequential diplomatic posts in the world.
Waltz walks through his confrontation with the Cuban foreign minister on the...
U.S. Senator Roger Marshall: From Delivering Babies to Diagnosing What's Broken in DC | 13th & Park
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Senator Roger Marshall of Kansas joins 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation rooted in service, values, and the practical demands of governing. A fifth-generation farm kid and first-generation college student, Marshall spent 25 years as the only OB-GYN serving roughly 60,000 people in Great Bend, Kansas, delivering more than 5,000 babies before bringing that same instinct for listening and diagnosing to the United States Senate. He draws a direct line between what made him a good doctor and what he believes makes a good senator: the willingness to stop talking and actually hear what people...
Jim Allen on Hard Rock, Sports Betting, and the Future of Gaming | 13th and Park
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Jim Allen, CEO of Seminole Gaming and Hard Rock International Chairman, joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on the global expansion of Hard Rock, the rapidly shifting gaming landscape, and a life journey that began in the kitchens of Atlantic City and led to one of the most consequential careers in the history of the industry.
Allen walks through the construction of Hard Rock's second Guitar Hotel on the iconic Mirage property in Las Vegas, a site he calls the true 50-yard line of the Strip...
Governor Tate Reeves on the Mississippi Miracle and Elon Musk's $20B Bet | 13th and Park
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Governor Tate Reeves of Mississippi joins Adam Goodman and co-host Will Russell on 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on conservative governance, economic development, and what he calls the Mississippi Miracle. The episode covers how Mississippi has transformed its national reputation, drawing billions in private investment and posting some of the most dramatic education gains in the country, all while cutting taxes and paying down debt.
Reeves breaks down Mississippi's strategy for becoming what he calls the yes state, a place that starts every conversation with a prospective employer from...
Tim Scott on Defending the GOP Senate Majority in the Midterms | 13th & Park
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Senator Tim Scott, Chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on the 2026 midterm landscape, the Republican Senate majority, and the personal journey that shaped one of Washington's most optimistic voices. Recorded at Ballard Studios in the nation's capital, the conversation opens with a reflection on Scott's landmark 2010 primary victory over Paul Thurmond, son of Strom Thurmond, a moment Scott describes as proof that hearts in the Deep South have genuinely changed and that voters in the 1st Congressional District cared more about...
Pollster John McLaughlin on the Midterms, Democrats, and What Voters Really Want | 13th & Park
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John McLaughlin, one of America's most prominent political pollsters and a longtime advisor to Donald Trump, joins Adam Goodman on 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on the state of American politics heading into the 2026 midterms. McLaughlin, who has also advised Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu since 2003, opens with a look at the Israeli election and what his polling reveals about American attitudes toward Iran, including the finding that 61% of Americans believe Iran would use a nuclear weapon against the United States and its allies if it obtained one.
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Bob Pudney of Black Sea Technologies on the Future of Naval Warfare | 13th & Park
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Bob Pudney, President of Black Sea Technologies, joins 13th and Park to discuss how autonomous and unmanned surface vessels are redefining naval power. A Naval Academy graduate and 21-year veteran of surface warfare and naval special operations, Pudney brings firsthand perspective to one of the most significant shifts in military technology in generations. From the Black Sea to the Strait of Hormuz, unmanned boats are no longer experimental. They are operational.
Pudney explains how Black Sea Technologies, headquartered at a former World War II shipyard in Baltimore's Curtis Bay, has spent...
Jane Horton: Gold Star Wife Fighting for America's Fallen Families | 13th & Park
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Jane Horton, senior advisor in the Office of the Secretary of War and Gold Star wife of Specialist Christopher Horton, joins 13th and Park for a deeply personal and policy-driven conversation on sacrifice, military family readiness, and what America owes its fallen. Christopher Horton, an Army sniper, was killed in action in Afghanistan in 2011 at age 26. Jane was 24 when she received the knock at the door. Rather than retreat from that grief, she has spent the years since dedicating herself to Gold Star families across the country, accumulating what host Adam Goodman estimates...
Pat Condo on Building AI We Can Actually Trust | Seekr CEO on 13th & Park
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Pat Condo, CEO of Seekr Technologies, joins 13th & Park for a wide-ranging conversation on artificial intelligence, national security, and why the next great power competition may be decided not by who builds the smartest AI, but by who builds the most trustworthy one. Drawing on decades of work across defense programs, intelligence, and technology, Condo frames AI as the defining feature of 21st century superpower status, comparing its geopolitical weight to the role nuclear weapons played in shaping the post-World War II world order.
Condo breaks down the core challenge facing...
Abe Sutton, Director of The CMS Innovation Center, on "Making Healthcare Logical" | 13th & Park
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Abe Sutton, Director of the CMS Innovation Center and Deputy Administrator at CMS, joins Adam Goodman and Alison Anway on 13th & Park to break down one of the most consequential but least understood corners of the federal government: the agency responsible for testing new ways to pay for healthcare, improve outcomes, and lower costs for millions of Americans on Medicare and Medicaid.
Sutton explains the core mission of the CMS Innovation Center in plain terms: move fast, test new payment models like a venture portfolio, and scale what works. He discusses...
Chairman Jim Risch on Foreign Policy, Nuclear Energy, and America's Future | 13th & Park
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Senator Jim Risch, Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and one of Washington's most experienced voices on global affairs, joins 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on American foreign policy, nuclear energy, veterans, and the state of the republic.
Risch opens with a stark assessment of the world order, describing a deepening divide between democracies and autocracies and arguing that the central challenge of the 21st century is for both sides to coexist without going to war. He reflects on how the Biden administration's withdrawal from Afghanistan damaged American...
Port of Long Beach CEO Noel Hacegaba: Why America's Ports Are The Economy in Motion | 13th & Park
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Noel Hacegaba, CEO of the Port of Long Beach, joins 13th and Park for a conversation on global trade, supply chain resilience, and how the Port of Long Beach handled 2.3 million container units in the first quarter of 2026. That makes it the busiest container port in the nation, even as geopolitical disruptions push oil prices higher and add costs across the entire transportation network.
Hacegaba breaks down the port's landlord business model, the shift in cargo origins from China to Southeast Asia, and why that geographic change is putting new pressure...
Congressman Mike Thompson on War, Veterans, and the Fight for Healthcare | 13th and Park
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Congressman Mike Thompson joins Anthony Williams on 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation recorded at Ballard Studios' remote location in Sacramento, California. A Vietnam War veteran who earned a Purple Heart, Thompson reflects on how his military service shaped every chapter of his life, from dropping out of high school to eventually earning a GED, an undergraduate degree, a high school diploma, and a master's degree, and how combat gave him an unshakeable standard for voting to send American troops into harm's way.
Thompson shares the story of uncovering Project...
Patrick Kennedy & Collin Gage on Addiction, Mental Health, and Fixing a Broken System | 13th & Park
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Former Congressman Patrick Kennedy and Collin Gage, CEO of ARMR Sciences, join Alison Anway, Ballard Partners Health Policy Chair, for a candid and deeply personal conversation on addiction, mental health, and the fentanyl crisis reshaping American life.
Kennedy reflects on his own public struggle with addiction, from being outed by a fellow rehab patient early in his political career in Rhode Island, to a DWI on Capitol Hill that sent him back to treatment. Rather than derailing his career, those experiences ultimately gave him the credibility and conviction to champion the...
Former HHS Secretary Xavier Becerra Makes His Case for Governor of California | 13th and Park
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Xavier Becerra, former California Attorney General, HHS Secretary, and 12-term Congressman, joins 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on his campaign to become Governor of California. Running to be the first Latino elected governor in the state's history, Becerra makes the case that his experience confronting the COVID-19 pandemic, negotiating drug prices, and defending California against federal overreach sets him apart in a crowded field.
Becerra reflects on the defining moments of his public service career, from taking on the Trump administration as Attorney General to leading the Department of...
Rep. Chris Deluzio on Youth Sports, Corporate Greed & the American Dream | 13th & Park
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Congressman Chris Deluzio, a Naval Academy graduate and second-term representative from Pennsylvania's 17th District, joins 13th and Park for a candid conversation on economic power, the cost of living, and what he believes the government owes working families. Drawing on his upbringing in western Pennsylvania, his service during the Iraq War, and his background in election security law, Deluzio outlines a political identity rooted in hard work, patriotism, and skepticism of concentrated power.
Deluzio discusses the Monopoly Busters Caucus he helped launch, explaining why he sees corporate consolidation as one of...
A Selfie Could Save Your Life: Helfie AI's Case for Early Detection | 13th & Park
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George Tomeski, founder and CEO of Helfie AI, and Dr. Ranya Habash, a physician and former healthcare technology leader with Microsoft, join 13th and Park to make the case for a fundamental reimagining of how Americans access and engage with their own health. For Tomeski, the mission is deeply personal: watching his mother suffer through 11 years of misdiagnosis before a terminal stage 4 stomach cancer diagnosis lit a fire that would eventually become Helfie AI, a smartphone platform designed to make health screening continuous, affordable, and universally accessible.
Dr. Habash, an ophthalmologist...
FDA's Kyle Diamantis on MAHA, Additives & Fixing America's Food Supply | 13th and Park
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Kyle Diamantis, FDA Deputy Commissioner for Food, joins Adam Goodman and Allison Amway on 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on what it means to oversee roughly 80% of the American food supply. Diamantis explains how the administration is working to put food policy at the center of the national health conversation, describing a fundamental shift in FDA's mission from reactive outbreak response to proactive, long-term chronic disease prevention.
The conversation digs into the FDA's new post-market review framework for chemical additives, a system designed to systematically reassess ingredients that have...
The MAHA Insider: Calley Means on Chronic Disease, Big Food, and Healthcare Costs | 13th & Park
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Calley Means, advisor to HHS and co-author of Good Energy, joins 13th and Park for a wide-ranging conversation on why America is the most chronically diseased society in human history and what it will take to change that.
Means, a former consultant to the food and pharmaceutical industries turned outspoken reformer, argues that the core problem is not a failure of effort but of design. He walks through the economic incentives that reward sickness over health, from insurance companies profiting off rising premiums to a pharmaceutical treadmill that manages chronic conditions...
"We're Back at It" - NASA's Jared Isaacman on the Moon, Mars, and What Comes Next | 13th & Park
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NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman joins 13th & Park for a wide-ranging conversation on America's space program, the race back to the moon, and what it will take to reach Mars.
Isaacman pulls back the curtain on Artemis 2, including the six-minute communications blackout during reentry and the fact that the heat shield was known to be imperfect before splashdown. He explains why the team pressed forward with confidence, and what the post-mission data confirmed. He also lays out the full roadmap: moon landings in 2027 and 2028, a permanent lunar base, in-situ resource manufacturing, nuclear...
U.S. Representative Seth Moulton on Combat, Congress, and Running for the U.S. Senate | 13th & Park
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Congressman Seth Moulton joins 13th & Park for a candid conversation on leadership, service, and the future of American politics.
A former Marine officer who served four tours in Iraq, Moulton reflects on the defining moments that shaped his leadership philosophy, from combat decisions under pressure to the responsibility of leading troops in life-or-death situations. He explains how those experiences continue to influence his approach in Congress, where he has built a reputation for independence and a willingness to challenge both parties.
The conversation explores the real-world consequences of decisions...
Steve Hilton on Running for Governor of California & Building a Majority for Change | 13th and Park
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Steve Hilton, Trump backed candidate for Governor of California, joins 13th & Park to discuss his campaign and why he believes the state is ready for change.
Hilton explains why he sees a growing majority of Californians who believe the state is heading in the wrong direction, pointing to rising costs, housing challenges, and frustration with long standing political leadership. He lays out a platform focused on affordability, including lowering gas prices, cutting energy costs, and creating a path to homeownership for working families.
The conversation also covers the impact...
Sheriff Chad Bianco on Why California Is Broken and How He Plans to Fix It As Governor | 13th & Park
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Sheriff Chad Bianco joins Anthony Williams on 13th & Park for a wide-ranging conversation on his run for Governor of California, the challenges facing the state, and why he believes voters are ready for a different kind of leadership.
Drawing on more than three decades in law enforcement, Bianco discusses public safety, homelessness, affordability, energy independence, government overreach, and what he sees as the deeper failures driving California’s cost-of-living crisis. He also explains why restoring accountability, rebuilding opportunity, and bringing common sense back to government are at the center of his ca...
House GOP Chair Lisa McClain on Messaging, Manufacturing, and the American Dream
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House Republican Conference Chair Lisa McClain joins 13th & Park for a conversation on voter ID, DHS funding, border security, taxes, manufacturing, and the issues she says matter most to working families. McClain argues that the strongest political message is rooted in “kitchen table economics” — the price of gas, groceries, housing, and the ability to build a better future for the next generation. She also reflects on her upbringing in Stockbridge, Michigan, the mentors who shaped her leadership, and the family moment that pushed her into public service.
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SBA Administrator Kelly Loeffler on Fraud, SBA Reform, and Empowering Small Businesses | 13th & Park
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SBA Administrator and former U.S. Senator Kelly Loeffler joins 13th & Park to discuss the state of America’s small businesses, the fallout from pandemic-era spending, and the push to restore accountability across federal programs.
Loeffler explains why small businesses remain the backbone of the U.S. economy, driving job creation and powering local communities. She outlines the current economic landscape, pointing to rising optimism alongside ongoing challenges like high interest rates that are slowing growth and investment.
The conversation also dives into one of the biggest issues facing th...
Inside California’s Political Machine with Newsom’s Former Chief of Staff Jim Deboo | 13th & Park
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Veteran political strategist Jim Deboo, former Chief of Staff to Governor Gavin Newsom, joins 13th & Park for an in-depth conversation on the forces shaping California politics and the future of the nation’s largest state economy.
With direct experience at the highest levels of state government, Deboo explains why California operates less like a state and more like a “nation state”—with massive budgets, global regulatory influence, and a unique political environment dominated by ballot measures and long-standing institutions.
The discussion explores the inner workings of California’s political system, in...
The First Female White House Press Secretary: Dee Dee Myers on Politics & Power | 13th and Park
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Dee Dee Myers joins 13th & Park for a wide-ranging conversation on political leadership, crisis management, and the realities of governing during moments of uncertainty.
Myers made history as the first woman to serve as White House Press Secretary under President Bill Clinton, becoming one of the most visible communicators in American politics at a young age. She reflects on her path from campaign politics to the White House briefing room, the pressures of representing a new administration, and the lessons she learned navigating major political and international challenges.
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Former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss on Trump, Brexit & Britain’s Deep State | 13th and Park
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Former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Liz Truss joins Co-Host Justin Sayfie on 13th & Park for a wide-ranging conversation on the state of Britain, the future of Europe, and the global political shift toward populism.
Truss reflects on her time in office, the economic policies that defined her premiership, and what she describes as the entrenched bureaucratic establishment within the UK. She discusses her recent meeting with President Donald Trump in Florida, her reaction to Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s Munich Security Conference speech, and why she believes Europe is...
David Meek & Dr. Stacey Rifkin: A New Era in Sickle Cell Treatment | 13th & Park
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Sickle cell disease has devastated families for generations — causing chronic pain, repeated hospitalizations, and shortened lives. On this episode of 13th & Park, we explore a potential breakthrough that is redefining what’s possible for patients living with this severe genetic condition.
This conversation is hosted by Alison Anway, Chair of the Health Policy Group at Ballard Partners.
She is joined by David Meek, CEO of Genetix Biotherapeutics, and Stacey Rifkin, a nationally respected pediatric hematologist who has spent her career treating children with sickle cell disease.
Together, they...
Dr. Marty Makary on Rebuilding Trust in Medicine and Reforming the FDA | 13th and Park
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On this episode of 13th & Park, FDA Commissioner Marty Makary joins Adam Goodman and Alison to discuss rebuilding public trust in medicine, reforming the FDA, and accelerating life-saving innovation.
From challenging long-standing medical dogma to issuing national priority review vouchers that speed up breakthrough treatments, Dr. Makary outlines how the FDA is reducing review times, increasing transparency, and modernizing outdated regulatory models. He explains why Bayesian clinical trials matter, how food chemical loopholes are being addressed, and why restoring confidence in public health institutions is central to the agency’s mission.
Fox Business News Anchor Elizabeth MacDonald on Truth, Markets, and Media | 13th and Park
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On this episode of 13th & Park, host Adam Goodman is joined by Fox Business News anchor Elizabeth MacDonald, the longtime journalist behind The Evening Edit.
MacDonald reflects on her career holding power to account—from Wall Street scandals and IRS investigations to Washington oversight and economic policy—and explains why asking why still matters in modern journalism. Drawing on decades of reporting at the intersection of markets, government, and everyday life, she discusses the responsibility journalists owe their audience, the danger of opinion-driven media, and how economic decisions in Washington shape real...
Congressman Carlos Gimenez on China, Communism, and the Fight for Freedom | 13th & Park
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Congressman Carlos Gimenez joins 13th & Park for a wide-ranging conversation on national security, China, communism, and the fight to defend freedom at home and abroad.
Born in Havana and raised in the shadow of communism, Gimenez brings a deeply personal perspective to today’s geopolitical challenges. He explains why the Chinese Communist Party represents the most serious threat to global freedom, how China’s Belt and Road Initiative is reshaping influence across the world, and why the United States can no longer afford complacency in its own hemisphere.
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