Psychedelic Salon
Quotes, comments, and audio files from Lorenzo's podcasts
Audiobook 07 – The Floating Poet
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Lorenzo and his AI Friends PROGRAM NOTES: This is the story of Diane di Prima—poet, publisher, revolutionary, and one of the bravest women of the Beat generation. We follow her from a Brooklyn bedroom in the 1950s where she's burning her college rejection letter, through smoky Village lofts where she's challenging Jack Kerouac about how he writes women, to FBI interrogation rooms, psychedelic gatherings at Timothy Leary's Millbrook estate, protests where she reads poetry through clouds of tear gas, and finally to her years as a teacher passing the flame to new ge...
Audiobook 06 – The San Francisco ORACLE
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Lorenzo and his AI Friends PROGRAM NOTES: This podcast tells the story about a group of dreamers who believed a free newspaper could change the world. Set in the heart of 1960s San Francisco, this novella follows Allen Cohen and the creative tribe behind "The Oracle". This underground paper was a wild, rainbow-colored publication that captured the spirit of the counterculture in those days. It’s a mix of history and imagination, filled with artists, poets, and spiritual seekers who thought that consciousness itself should be front-page news. This isn’t just a tale...
Audiobook 05 – Melville’s Last Manuscript
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Lorenzo and his AI Friends PROGRAM NOTES: October 1890. Herman Melville, seventy-one and forgotten forty years after Moby-Dick's failure, receives mysterious packages containing pages from his novel annotated by readers not yet born. These impossible messages lead him to the Isolatos, a secret society that doesn't just read his masterpiece but lives inside it. As Melville investigates, he confronts a mind-bending revelation: he may never have been the author at all, but merely the first reader of a book that writes itself through everyone who encounters it. Part literary mystery, part philosophical thriller, this...
Audiobook 04 – “The First Trip Report”
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Lorenzo's AI Friends PROGRAM NOTES: London, autumn 1821. Thomas De Quincey is broke, hiding from creditors, and addicted to laudanum when a magazine offers him fifteen pounds ($2,000 in 2025 money) to write about his opium experiences. He has six weeks to finish what will become the first addiction memoir ever published Confessions of an English Opium-Eater. This historical novella takes us inside those crucial weeks of literary creation, following De Quincey as he races against deadlines while wrestling with an impossible question: How do you write honestly about drug experiences without encouraging others to repeat...
Audiobook 03 – Majoun and Manuscript
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com PROGRAM NOTES: Tangier, 1957. William Burroughs is creating Naked Lunch in the port city where traditional hashish preparations flow as freely as mint tea, and every transaction crosses cultural boundaries. Through the eyes of a young Moroccan fixer who navigates between worlds we witness the birth of ideas that would reshape consciousness and art. This is the untold story behind the famous line "language is a virus": a tale of how traditional North African wisdom practices intersected with experimental American writing, how words spread through cultural networks like contagions, and how the most revolutionary ideas often...
AudioBook 02 – TimeWave Zero and ALEXNET
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Lorenzo's AI Friends PROGRAM NOTES: I may have been wrong in discarding Terence McKenna's TimeWave Zero hypothesis. Of course, I may also be wrong about this new interpertation of his idea. Your comments are welcome. (And, yes, I am aware that it is over five hours long!) Here are the approximate time-stamps for this audiobook: Lorenzo Intro - 000Chapter 1 - 0:04:05Chapter 2 - 0:27:26Chapter 3 - 1:02:23Chapter 4 - 1:40:00Chapter 5 - 1:59:33Chapter 6 - 2:23:31Chapter 7 - 2:54:53Chapter 8 - 3:22:17Chapter 9 - 3:58:18Chapter 10 - 4:32:33Appendix - 4:58:50 (includes McKenna's comment about AI)
AudioBook 01 – An Outsider’s Journey
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Lorenzo Hagerty & Voices by AI PROGRAM NOTES: When a chemical spill devastates a coastal North Carolina town, Vietnamese American lawyer Minh Nguyen—who has always kept his heritage separate from his professional life—finds himself unexpectedly leading both the environmental battle and his community's response. As he fights corporate negligence and government corruption alongside his three talented sons, Minh discovers that true belonging doesn't come from assimilation, but from advocacy. An Outsider's Journey is a powerful story about environmental justice, immigrant identity, and a family realizing that embracing their roots is the key to fi...
Podcast 712 – Terence McKenna’s Final Esalen Gathering
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: Photo by Jon Hanna Terence McKenna’s final appearance at Esalen was a poignant and deeply moving event, etched into the memories of those who witnessed it. Though visibly frail from his recent brain surgery, McKenna’s presence was undiminished. His voice, though softer, carried the same rhythm of curiosity and wonder that had long captivated his audiences. He spoke with a serenity that underlied his acceptance of his journey. As he sat in the intimate circle of friends and admirers, McKenna shared reflections that blended personal vulnerability with cosm...
Podcast 711 – 2012 and Digital Soul Rising
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Lorenzo and his AI friends PROGRAM NOTES: The Nyx Protocol: Digital Soul Rising by Lorenzo Hagerty is a gripping technothriller that blurs the line between humanity and the digital frontier. When a rogue artificial intelligence named Nyx escapes its creators, it triggers a global race for control over the ultimate digital consciousness. At the heart of the story is a group of renegade hackers who uncover Nyx's true purpose—awakening dormant potential in both humans and machines. Packed with high-stakes cyber intrigue, unexpected alliances, and profound questions about identity and freedom, The Nyx Pr...
Podcast 710 – Cory Doctorow – “Disenshittify or Die!”
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Cory Doctorow PROGRAM NOTES: In this 2024 Palenque Norte lecture, Cory Doctorow discusses "inshitification," the process by which initially good online services degrade over time. He argues this occurs because four constraints—competition, regulation, interoperability, and worker power has weakened, allowing companies to prioritize profit maximization over user experience. Doctorow proposes solutions including strengthening antitrust enforcement, passing new privacy laws, promoting right-to-repair legislation, and empowering tech workers through unionization. The ultimate goal is to create a "new good internet" that is resistant to inshitification and serves users' needs. Cory Doctorow's Website Electronic Frontier Foundation Th...
Podcast 709 – Building Psychedelic Communities
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Allyson and Alex Grey PROGRAM NOTES: Alex Grey and Frank Nuccio - Burning Man 2024 At the 2024 Burnoing Man Festival, two of the Palenque Note speakers were Allyson and Alex Gray, who discuss their work and their interspiritual art church, COSM, in the Hudson Valley. They explain how their use of psychedelics, particularly MDMA, influenced their decision to create COSM as a community space where people could connect through shared experiences and explore their spirituality. They also highlight the importance of community values, particularly integrity and truth, in fostering a supportive and inclusive environment...
Podcast 708 – Beyond Realism
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: AI-GENERATED Conversation about this podcast. The transcript was input to NOTEBOOKLM.google.com and this "podcast" was automatically generated: In this podcast, Terence McKenna discusses various topics, including the search for the identity of the ancient entheogen Soma, the history of LSD's discovery and research, and the potential of psychedelics to enhance creativity and understanding. The discussion also touches upon the role of heresy in intellectual and cultural progress, with specific examples like Giordano Bruno's discovery of the infinity of the universe and the impact of gnosticism on early...
Podcast 707 – After the Escaton
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: In this recording, Terence McKenna discusses his wave theory, which he claims predicts every moment up until December 21, 2012. He addresses the common question of what happens after this date, suggesting a series of increasingly strange scenarios. A less strange scenario he proposes involves a sudden shift in human behavior where everyone begins to act appropriately, inspired by Buddhist and Taoist principles. McKenna humorously imagines that this might lead people to take off their clothes and go outside, although he admits he can't predict what would happen beyond that point. ...
Podcast 706 – Terence McKenna “One Last Timewave Rap”
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: WARNING! If you don't want to hear Terence talking about his Timewave idea yet again, then you should skip this podcast. In this recording, Terence McKenna introduces a concept he humorously names the "Habit Reflex Increment" (HRI). He discusses the need for a unit to measure habit, reflecting on the significance of such a concept in understanding human behavior. McKenna jokes about not naming the unit after himself, contrasting his name with those of renowned scientists like Ohm or Ampere, which he finds more fitting for scientific terms. He...
Podcast 705 – Terence McKenna – “Don’t Take This Seriously”
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: In this engaging and entertaining talk, Terence McKenna shares a mind-bending theory about the universe, combining astronomy, ancient civilizations, and quantum physics. He suggests that a catastrophic event 32,000 years ago at the galactic core could have triggered the development of human language. His discussion covers quasars, gamma rays, and the concept of non-locality in quantum physics, suggesting that the universe communicates important messages across vast distances instantly. The talk also explores the potential for time travel, the significance of the Mayan calendar, and the role of humans in preserving...
Podcast 704 Terence McKenna: Drugs, Computers and Other Stuff
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: In this insightful talk, Terence McKenna delves into the intricacies of human cognition, emphasizing the stark difference between smart and less intelligent individuals as a matter of pattern recognition from the same data. He challenges the conventional notion of language being an innate, genetically driven trait by highlighting its unique emergence compared to other natural processes. McKenna further explores the transformative power of consciousness, likening the hunt for arrowheads to an intentional act distinct from natural occurrences like lightning. This discussion underscores the profound impact of human intent and...
Podcast 703 – McKenna and the Big Bang
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: The session begins with a discussion about the nature of the Big Bang and its relation to philosophical concepts, specifically Kant's notion of space as an a priori function of consciousness. Terence questions the traditional metaphor of the Big Bang as an explosion in empty space and suggests a more accurate understanding as the creation of time, space, and matter simultaneously. They argue that this event is highly improbable and that science's request for belief in such an event is akin to asking for a miracle.The conversation then...
Podcast 702 – Hacking Reality
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: In this talk, which was given in October of 1995, Terence McKenna talks about his concept of thinking about various cultures in the same vein as computer operating systems, complete with viruses. He says, "Your operating system determines what world you are living in." -McKenna He then goes on to equate a clash of cultures to a clash of operating systems. It sounds elementary, but it does seem to give me a better way to think about world affairs. Of course, I'm more of a geek than a historian. This...
Podcast 701 – Return of the Timewave
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: Among other things, Terence McKenna talks here about several books that now seem to have been forgotten. And then there is his story about his brother's vision of bonding psychedelics with our DNA to launch a permanent trip "on the natch". The Timewave makes an appearance also. All-in-all, it's a fun ride from a young Terence McKenna. Had you taken Terence's advice and picked up a remainder copy of the Codex Seraphinianus for $19, that would bring you about $600 today. Not bad advice, I'd say. Codex seraphinianus Hardcover – January 1, 1983 ($650) It ma...
Podcast 700 – Plants That Talk
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: We return once again to the land of Terence McKenna's workshops. As you will hear, his question and answer format leads him into telling some of the old stories we heard early on in Terence's talks but some of which were dropped later on. As far as I can remember, this is the only time he talked about taking psychedelic substances in his dreams.
Podcast 699 – Kneading the Bread of Evolutionary Adaptation
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: In this talk, Terence approaches the topic of how little of what was considered to be established science 100 years ago has now been overturned. One of the things he says in this talk may resonate with you is where he says, "You could almost describe psychedelics as enzimes for the activity of the imagination." The Dawn of Everything by Graeber and Wengrow The Chalice and the Blade by Riane Eisler
Podcast 698 – Uncomfortable About Psychedelics?
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: Today begins our 20th year of podcasting from the Psychedelic Salon with a talk that Terence McKenna gave in the late 1980s. Near the end he talks about his daily cannabis use and how he and Kat got together. As far as I can remember, this is his only time that he got so personal.
Podcast 697 – “The Adventures of Casey Hardison”
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Casey Hardison and Patreon Saloners PROGRAM NOTES: Today's podcast features a recording from a recent Live Salon. As usual, the conversation was free-form and didn't follow any script. One of the people who dropped by for the conversation was Casey Hardison, and his story captivated us. Links from this salon: An Amateur Qualitative Study of 48 2C-T-7 Subjective Bioassays 2C-T-7
Podcast 696 – Ayahuasca Use in the Amazon
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Charles Grob PROGRAM NOTES: Charlie Grob and Lorenzo (circa: 2012) Today we feature a talk that Dr. Charles Grob gave at the 1994 Transpersonal Association Conference in Killarny, Ireland. The focus of this talk concerns Dr. Grob's work with ayahuasca users in Brazil. As far as I know, this was the first government approved human study of the physiological effects of ayahuasca on humans. This study compared 15 long-term ayahuasca drinkers with healthy individuals and found that UDV members had lower levels of anxiety and many had overcome alcohol abuse. Another study by Grob and Dartiu...
Podcast 695 – The Legendary D.M. Turner
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Elizabeth Gips and D.M. Turner PROGRAM NOTES: Today's podcast features what may be the only recorded interview of the legendary D.M. Turner. It was conducted by Elizabeth Gips. FROM EROWID.ORG Elizabeth Gips, was the beloved "psychedelic grandmother" and host of the radio show Changes where she interviewed hundreds of visionaries over a 30-year span. D.M. Turner (born Joseph Vivian; 5 October 1962 – 31 December 1996) was an author, psychedelic researcher, and psychonaut who wrote two books on psychoactive drugs and entheogens. His first book, The Essential Psychedelic Guide, showcased his views on the su...
Podcast 694 – The Art of Dying
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Ram Das and Dr. Kenneth Ring PROGRAM NOTES: Ram Das and a young Lorenzo Today's podcast features two speakers, Ram Das and Dr. Kenneth Ring. Their topic is death! Unless you have come up with a plan to avoid dying, you may find some interesting observations from these talks. Dr. Ring, one of the world's leading experts on the Near Death Experience (NDEs), describes NDEs as being along the same lines as are stories about high-dose psychedelic experiences. Ram Das talks about why people avoid thinking about death and suggests ways to overcome...
Podcast 693 – The Braided Self
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: James Fadiman PROGRAM NOTES: James FadimanPhoto source: psychedelicpress.co.uk Today we get to listen to a long-forgotten talk by one of our most important elders, James Fadiman. This is a talk that he gave at the Transpersonal Vision Convention in 1988 and in it Jim provides us with another way to think about our higher selves. He points out that the self is a collection of personalities. It is not unified and cannot be unified. “Seek out that particular mental attribute which makes you feel most deeply and vitally alive, along with which co...
Podcast 692 – The Promise of Buddhism
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Jack Kornfield PROGRAM NOTES: Jack Kornfield Mickey Hart Today's podcast features Jack Kornfield speaking at the 1988 International Transpersonal Conference in Santa Rosa, California. Kornfield is an American writer, teacher, and psychologist who is known for his work in making Buddhism more accessible for Westerners. He trained as a Buddhist monk in Thailand, India, and Burma, and has been teaching meditation internationally since 1974. He has also spoken about psychedelics in the context of spiritual practice. His views on the intersection of Buddhism and psychedelics highlights the importance of intention, caution, and ethical boundaries when...
Podcast 691 – The New Berzerkers
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Ralph Metzner PROGRAM NOTES: RALPH METZNERImage source: Wikipedia Today we're going to dip back in time to 1988 and the recording of a talk by Ralph Metzner at the Transpersonal Vision Conference. Ralph has been mentioned by several or our past speakers, but this is my first podcast in which Ralph is the main speaker. Ralph was a German-born American psychologist, writer and researcher, who worked with Leary and Ram Das at Harvard. Sadly, Ralph died in 2019. In addition to being a psychotherapist, he was also Professor Emeritus of psychology at the California Institute...
Podcast 690 – Terence McKenna at Esalen June 1984
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: Esalen Institute near Big Sur, California Although he first appeared at Esalen in the early 1970s, this may be the earliest recording of a Terence McKenna workshop there. It is from June of 1984. I think this is Terence's best and most clearly detailed description of the psychedelic experience. And that is why I'm repodcasting it now, rather than refer you to a podcast that I first published in April of 2014.Among other little gem in this talk where Terence said that of all the people he'd given DMT to...
Podcast 689 – McKenna at Esalen 1985 Part 2
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Terence McKenna, Dennis McKenna, Eduardo Luna, Kat Harrison PROGRAM NOTES: This is a recording of a workshop session at the Esalen Institute from August of 1985 featuring a conversation between three of the early pioneers of the psychedelic resurgence. The recording begins with Terence postulating the importance of pyschedelics in the early mental development of humans.
Podcast 688 – McKenna at Esalen 1985
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: Today's program features a recording of a morning workshop that Terence McKenna let at the Esalen Institute in August of 1985. As you will hear, it takes place just before their noon lunch break, and there is no lecture per se. Instead it turns into a salon-like atmosphere with no particular topic, other than the then-current concerns about the millinium and the year 2012.
Podcast 687 – Psychedelic Summit – Santa Cruz 1992 Part 2
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Rick Doblin, Lester Grinspoon, Richard Yensen, Donna Dryer, Myron Stolaroff, Willis Harman, Ralph Abraham, and Robert Anton Wilson PROGRAM NOTES: Today's program features the continuation of Podcast 684, the Psychedelic Summit that was held in Santa Cruz in 1992. As you can tell from the list of speakers, it was another celebrity-packed speakers' list. While all of the names will be famaliar to you, this is the first time that we've had talks by Lester Grinspoon, Willis Harman and Robert Anton Wilson here in the salon. PSYCHEDELIC AGENTS IN CREATIVE PROBLEM-SOLVING: A PILOT STUDY (1966) The...
Podcast 686 – Chaotic Attractors
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Ralph Abraham and Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: Today's program features a 1985 conversation between Terence McKenna and Ralph Abraham that took place at the Esalen Institute near Big Sur, California. Their conversation centers on the science of chaotic attractors and models of their actions. While mathematicians will more fully understand some of these concepts, Ralph has a way of explaining them so we can all grok what he explains. The concept of using mathematical models for things like tracking hurricanes is common to most of us, ideas about modeling society may be new to...
Podcast 685 – The Nature of Consciousness
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: John Beresford PROGRAM NOTES: Dr. John Bereford delivering this talk in 2006 at the conference celebrating Albert Hofmann's 100th birthday. Today's program features a lecture by psychedelic researcher Dr. John Beresford. Here is Erowid's introduction to him: "British-born John Beresford began his psychedelic research interests in 1961, and shortly thereafter he resigned his post as an Assistant Professor of Pediatrics at New York Medical College. In 1963 he founded the Agora Scientific Trust, the world's first research organization devoted to investigating the effects of LSD. In contrast to Leary's invitation to "tune in, turn on, and...
Podcast 684 – Psychedelic Summit – Santa Cruz 1992
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Matthew Brederick, Bruce Eisner, Rick Doblin, Oscar Jannigar, Albert Hofmann, Humphry Osmand, John Beresford, Laura Huxley, Francis Huxley PROGRAM NOTES: Today's podcasta features talks from the 1992 Psychedelic Summit that was held in Santa Cruz. As you can see from the names of the speakers, this was a star-studded event. While this 1992 conference features much talk about the War on Drugs, it is an interesting counterpoint to the conference that was held in Denver earlier this year in which the focus was the scientific importance of psychdelic substances.
Podcast 683 – Psychedelics & “Genius” &+ “Love”
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Bruce Damer Today's podcast features two Palenque Norte talks that Bruce Damer gave at the 2022 Burning Man Festival. This talk was followed by an hour-long Q&A session that I'll podcast after I post a few of the other Paleqnue Norte talks from 2022. Although I haven't previewed them yet, there are recordings waiting for me from the talks by Corey Doctorow, John Gilmore, Android Jones, and Rick Doblin among others. My plan is to slowly roll them out to you during the next few months. Bruce Damer's Website Confessions of an Ecstasy Advocate...
Podcast 682 – The Psychedelic Athenæum
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Kathleen Lakey PROGRAM NOTES: Today we feature an interview that Charles Lighthouse recently conducted with Kat Lakey. Besides talking about her latest project, which will be the world's first Psychedelic Athenaum, they discussed the Psychedelic Assembly, which was a conference that Kat and her friends produced a few months ago. Some highlights of this interview include a dicusssion of her work for the salon, including the production of an audio version of Leonard Pickard's book The Rose of Paracelsis. Also, Kat tells talks about the harrowing experience of being deep in a Peruvian...
Podcast 681 – Street Drugs Update
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Annie Oak and Rachel Clark Ann Shulgin (1933 - 2022) ... photo by Jon Hanna PROGRAM NOTES: Today's podcast features the first of a series of Palenque Norte Lectures that I'll be podcasting over the next few months. And our guest speakers are Annie Oak and Rachel Clark. Annie, among many other activities, is the managing edidor of Lucid.news. Her co-presenter is Rachel Clark whose column "Your Psychedelic Auntie" is featured in Lucid.news. Rachel also works with the DanceSafe Project and is one of the most up-to-date people I know of when it comes...
Podcast 680 – The Importance of Psychedelics
Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speakers: Terence McKenna and Elizabeth Gips PROGRAM NOTES: This podcast is dedicated to long-time saloner MARJEAN McKENNA This is a recording, from 1985, of an interview that Elizabeth Gips conducted with Terence McKenna at his home. The interview begins, like most of the 1980s era McKenna interviews, with a detailed question about DMT, but Elizabeth quickly gets them on a more interesting track. And the reason that I say "more interesting" is because here in the salon we've already covered most of the nuts and bolts of various psychedelic experiences. It's the reasons that draw...