A Different Perspective

This week Nick talks to Richard Penny and Simon Like

Richard Penny and Simon Like are experienced UK small-cap fund managers at Oberon Investments, with decades in the market between them. Simon began his career in banking with Midland Bank, later HSBC, before setting up his own investment vehicle and eventually joining Oberon over 25 years ago. He has focused primarily on small and micro-cap stocks and is well known for running a Venture Capital Trust. Richard’s interest in investing began during the wave of UK privatisations in the 1980s. He started professionally in 1992 and has managed sm...

This week Nick talks to Paul McDade

Paul has over 35 years of international experience in the oil and gas industry, with nearly two decades as COO and CEO of Tullow Oil. He helped transform the company into a FTSE 100 business, driving growth across Africa, including the development of Ghana’s Jubilee field and major M&A activity. He holds a Master’s in Petroleum Engineering from Imperial College London and a BSc in Civil Engineering from the University of Strathclyde.

Nick and Paul discuss Paul’s early life in Glasgow and his route into the oil an...

This week Nick talks to Val Hamilton

Val initially trained as a teacher, travelling and working abroad in Copenhagen and later in Boston, where she began working with challenging adolescents. On returning to the UK, Val settled in London and transitioned into the private sector. After studying at Sheffield Business School, she became a personal and organisational development consultant in the City, working with major banks, insurance companies and legal firms to address complex people and cultural issues.

Nick and Val discus Val's latest book - Pirates, Punters, and Politicians: How the Bank of England...

This week Nick talks Ian Schenkel  

Ian is an award-winning commercial leader with a proven record of delivering triple-digit global growth and successful turnarounds for SaaS businesses. Experienced in securing major contracts across government and multiple regulated sectors, and trusted as an advisor on business growth and international expansion. 

Nick and Ian talk through Ian’s unconventional path into tech and cyber security, starting with his early life on a farm in New Zealand and a series of sales jobs before moving to the UK and discovering software start-ups. Ian shares how he co-founded an earl...

This week Nick talks to Brusk Korkmaz

Brusk Korkmaz has over 20 years’ experience in the construction industry, building a broad and respected career across civil engineering and labour supply. In 2008, he founded Hercules PLC, reflecting his strong entrepreneurial drive. Prior to this, Brusk held senior roles at leading organisations including MJ Gleeson, Black & Veatch, and Hochtief UK. 

Nick and Brusk discuss Brusk’s journey from moving to the UK to study civil engineering at UCL to building a career across major UK infrastructure projects. Brusk explains his motivation for working in civil engineering, rooted in impro...

This week Nick talks to Hugh Hendry.

In this special episode recorded in front of a live audience at November's MelloLondon investor event in London. Legendary hedge fund manager and self-styled “Asset Capitalist” Hugh Hendry speaks with Nick about today’s macroeconomic landscape, the psychology of bubbles, and why imagination—rather than pure data—is essential for understanding markets. Hendry reflects on his unconventional career, his philosophy of “playfulness, curiosity and mischief,” and his belief that investors must learn to become “world-class losers” by surviving their mistakes rather than fearing them.

Hendry argues that we are living through...

This week Nick talks Katie and Jeremy Prescott

Katie Prescott is the Technology Business Editor at The Times and a weekly columnist for its award-winning business section. A regular contributor to Times Radio and The Times daily podcast, The Story, she is widely recognised following a decade at the BBC, where she reported on technology and business for Radio 4’s Today programme. She hosts The Times Tech Podcast and was named Tech Commentator of the Year at the UK Tech Awards.

In the episode, Nick discusses with Katie and her father Jeremy the story behind Ka...

This week Nick talks to Charles Skinner

Charles Skinner is a leading authority on Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition (ETA). As CEO, he transformed a £3m business into a £100m exit and grew another company’s value 30-fold to £300m, earning AIM Company of the Year in 2016. He is currently the CEO of Restore PLC, and the author of Buy, Run, Build: A Guide to Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition. Charles also advises the ETA search fund Mentmore Associates and chairs four private companies. 

Nick and Charles discuss Charles Skinner’s unconventional career path, beginning in investment banking before m...

In this week's episode Nick talks to Allan Lockhart

Allan Lockhart is the CEO of NewRiver REIT plc and has over 35 years of experience in the UK retail real estate sector. He began his career with Strutt & Parker in 1988, advising leading property companies and institutions on retail leasing, investment, and development. In 2002, he joined Halladale Plc as Retail Director, where he focused on identifying value-add opportunities within the UK retail market and delivering effective asset management strategies. Following Halladale’s successful sale in early 2007, Allan co-founded NewRiver, serving as Property Director from its IPO before being appointed Ch...

This week Nick talks to Jeff Chatfield

Jeff Chatfield is the CEO of Avation, a publicly listed aircraft leasing company with a global portfolio of commercial and regional aircraft. He has over two decades of experience in the aviation finance industry, leading the company through multiple bond issues and strategic fleet expansions. Known for his pragmatic approach to capital management, Chatfield has built Aviation into one of the few small-scale lessors capable of issuing public bonds. Based between Singapore and London, he is recognised for his clear, data-driven insights into market trends and aircraft investment strategy.

This week Nick talks to Julian Roberts

Julian Roberts is an executive coach, author and podcast presenter known for his work in developing personal and organisational resilience.

In this episode, Nick and Julian talk through Julian’s varied career path — from studying medical sciences and starting out in pharmaceutical sales, to spending twenty years in the food industry with brands such as Heinz, before moving into executive coaching following a difficult corporate experience that led him to reassess his direction.

Julian explains how his interest in people and performance encouraged him to retrain as a...

This week Nick talks to Oktay Kavrak.

Oktay Kavrak is Head of Communications and Strategy at Leverage Shares, a European leader in exchange-traded products (ETPs). Oktay discusses the company’s mission to democratize access to investing, with over $1.5 billion in assets under management as of July 2024. He shares his professional journey from IBM and DeGiro to joining Leverage Shares in its early stages, helping pioneer leveraged ETFs across Europe.

Oktay explains how Leverage Shares introduced the first leveraged single-stock ETFs - products that offer amplified exposure to major names like Tesla, Nvidia, and Coinbase. Designed fo...

In this episode Nick talks to David Keene MBE

David Keene MBE, Founder & CEO of Aurrigo, is a leading figure in the automotive and autonomous vehicle industries. With nearly four decades of experience, David has been recognised as a driving force in the development of autonomous and electric vehicles, earning an MBE in June 2025 for his pioneering work to decarbonise airports through innovations such as the Auto-DollyTug, now in use at airports worldwide. A board member of the UK Automotive Council, Visiting Professor at Coventry University, and Fellow of the Institute of Engineering and Technology, David shares...

This week Nick talks to Peter York

Peter York is an author, broadcaster, journalist, management consultant and cultural commentator. He was Style Editor of Harper’s & Queen for ten years and co-authored The Official Sloane Ranger Handbook in 1982. He co-founded the consultancy SRU Ltd, later chaired a UK government Foresight committee on the future of leisure, and has written for The Independent on Sunday, GQ and Management Today.

Peter’s most recent books are The War Against the BBC: How an Unprecedented Combination of Hostile Forces Is Destroying Britain's Greatest Cultural Institution... And Why You Shou...

This week Nick talks to Mike England

Mike holds a Master's Degree in Engineering and brings over 25 years of commercial and operational leadership experience in industrial product distribution and services. He spent eight years with FTSE100 RS Group plc, where he held key leadership roles including Group Chief Operating Officer, overseeing P&L across the Americas, EMEA, and APAC. Prior to that, he served as President of EMEA and, earlier, as Managing Director, successfully leading the turnaround of operations in the UK and Northern Europe. Before RS Group, Mike spent nine years at FTSE250 Brammer plc (now...

In this weeks episode Nick talks to Benedict Evans

Benedict Evans is an independent analyst with over 25 years’ experience in mobile, media, and technology. Evans recounts his career journey, from equity analysis of mobile operators, to strategic roles in media and telecoms, and later his work at venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz.

Nick and Benedict conversations explores the evolution of artificial intelligence, clarifying definitions of AI, machine learning, and generative AI, and drawing historical parallels with past technology shifts such as smartphones, spreadsheets, and the internet. Evans discusses AI’s strengths, limitations, and public misconceptions, emph...

This week Nick talks to Lionel Barber.

Lionel Barber is a distinguished British journalist best known for his tenure as Editor of the Financial Times from 2005 to 2020, during which he spearheaded its transformation into a globally respected, digital-first news organisation. A graduate of St Edmund Hall, Oxford, he began his career at The Scotsman before moving to The Sunday Times and then joining the FT in 1985, where he held senior roles including Washington correspondent, Brussels bureau chief, news editor, and U.S. managing editor. As editor, he conducted landmark interviews with world leaders such as Barack Obama...

This week Nick talks to long-time friend of the show, Hugh Hendry, the Acid Capitalist. 

Hugh Hendry is a Scottish hedge fund manager and outspoken investor known for his contrarian views and sharp macroeconomic commentary. Born in Glasgow, he studied Economics and Finance at the University of Strathclyde before starting his career at Baillie Gifford, later moving to Credit Suisse and Odey Asset Management. In 2005, he co-founded Eclectica Asset Management, where he served as Chief Investment Officer and gained prominence for delivering strong returns during volatile periods—most notably a 32% gain in 2008 amid the global financial crisis. Aft...

This week Nick talks to Marty Connaghan.

Marty began his career at Glasgow-based investment firm Murray Johnstone in 1998, and joined Aberdeen in 2001 following its acquisition of Murray Johnstone. Over the years, he has held various roles, including Dealer, ESG Analyst, and Credit Analyst. For the past 17 years, Martin has specialised in managing Global Equity and Income mandates. He has been a member of the Murray International Trust fund management team since 2017.
 
Nick and Marty discuss Marty's career journey and investment philosophy. Marty shares how he entered the finance world unexpectedly, starting as an office junior a...

This week Nick talks to Alison Kosik

Alison Kosik is an American journalist and freelance anchor currently reporting for ABC News. She previously served as a business correspondent for CNN, where she covered the New York Stock Exchange. Her debut book, What’s Up With Women And Money? How To Do All The Financial Stuff You’ve Been Avoiding, was released on March 4, 2025. 

Nick and Alison discuss Alison's journey from a childhood fascination with journalism to becoming a respected anchor and business correspondent. She discusses her early ambitions, winning essay contests as a young girl in Mi...

This week Nick talks to Nadine Buckland.

Nadine has over two decades of experience in advisory and investment. She co-founded Zenzic Capital in 2014 alongside Tom Lloyd-Jones. Before establishing Zenzic, Nadine held positions in insolvency and transaction advisory at Horwath Clarke Whitehill, RSM Tenon, and Baker Tilly.

Nick and Nadine discuss the evolution of the UK and European non-bank lending market, with a particular focus on real estate credit. Nadine shares her journey from insolvency roles to co-founding Zenzic Capital, a specialist in opportunistic real estate debt. They highlight the increasing demand for alternative lending solutions...

In this weeks episode Nick talks to Frank Buchholz

Retired financial advisor Frank J. Buchholz shares insights from his 40-year career in investment advising, particularly his time at Merrill Lynch. He discusses his motivation for writing The Investor’s Golden Playbook, a book designed to help novice investors navigate the financial world using clear principles, including assessing time horizon, risk tolerance, and tax implications. Frank emphasizes the importance of long-term investing, the power of compounding, and the need for a “money buffer” for emergencies. He advocates for managed accounts over stock-picking and warns against speculative investments like commod...

This week Nick talks to Iain Baillie

Iain began his career at Strauss Turnbull and Co and has been involved in UK and European Capital Markets for over 35 years as a trader of both equities and corporate bonds, culminating in heading European credit trading as a Managing Director of Salomon Brothers. Iain was also a founding director of LBDP, a successful agency broker in European credit. From 2003 to 2007 Iain was CEO of MarketAxess Europe, the leading platform for electronic execution in the credit market. He was responsible for all facets of the company's European business and during...

This week Nick talks to Chris Gillespie.

Chris’s career in financial services spans over 40 years. He brings extensive experience from senior leadership roles within consumer finance businesses. Prior to joining H&T, Chris served as Managing Director of the consumer credit division at Provident Financial PLC. Chris maintains a strong interest in matters affecting the wider industry and is a Fellow of the Association of Chartered Certified Accountants.

Nick and Chris discuss his extensive career in financial services, beginning at Barclays Bank and spanning several leadership roles including at Provident Financial. He shares insights in...

This week Nick talks to Judith MacKenzie.

Judith joined Downing in October 2009, bringing with her extensive experience in venture capital and fund management. Prior to this, she was a partner at Acuity Capital, where she managed AIM-listed VCT and IHT investments, as well as a small-cap activist fund. Before Acuity, Judith spent nine years as a senior investment manager at Aberdeen Asset Management Growth Capital, where she co-managed five Aberdeen VCTs, focusing on technology and media investments across both public and private companies. In 2010, she founded Downing Fund Managers, the boutique investment division of Downing LLP. Judith...

This week Nick talks to Parmy Olson.

Parmy Olson is a prominent technology journalist and author, currently a columnist for Bloomberg Opinion. She previously covered tech and innovation for The Wall Street Journal and Forbes, with a focus on AI, robotics, and emerging technologies. In 2012, she published We Are Anonymous, an acclaimed deep dive into the hacker groups Anonymous and LulzSec. Her 2024 book, Supremacy: AI, ChatGPT, and the Race That Will Change the World, explores the rivalry between tech giants like OpenAI and DeepMind in the pursuit of artificial general intelligence, earning the Financial Times Business Book...

This week Nick talks to Duncan Garrood

Duncan Garrood is CEO of Empiric Student Property, Originally trained as a scientist, he transitioned into the corporate world, spending 20 years at Unilever in various global roles across production, sales, and marketing. He played a key role in expanding business operations, including launching an ice cream division in China. Over the years, he took on leadership roles in hospitality, aviation, and leisure, overseeing transformations at companies like Punch Taverns and Ten Entertainment. His career has been defined by adaptability, embracing opportunities across different industries, and executing successful turnaround strategies and...

This week Nick talks to George Ensor

George Ensor is the portfolio manager for the RGI UK Listed Smaller Companies Fund and the River UK Micro Cap Investment Trust. He joined River Global Investors in 2014 as a UK equity analyst, following his role as a private client investment manager at Smith & Williamson Investment Management. George holds a degree in Chemistry from the University of Bristol and is a CFA Charterholder. 
 
Nick and George discuss, his journey into investment management, starting with his chemistry degree and eventual move into equities, driven by the challenge of taking co...

In this bonus episode Nick talks to Jeff Chatfield.

Jeff serves as the Executive Chairman of Avation PLC and played a pivotal role in its founding and development. Throughout his career, he has held management and directorial positions in various companies across sectors such as the airline industry, data distribution, electronics, investment, broadcasting, and manufacturing. He holds both a Bachelor of Engineering and a Master of Engineering Science from the University of Western Australia. Additionally, he is a graduate member of the Australian Institute of Company Directors and a Fellow of the Singapore Institute of Directors. 

This week Nick talks to Andrew Jones

Andrew led Metric Property Investments Plc as co-founder and CEO from its launch in March 2010 until its successful merger with London & Stamford in January 2013, when he took the helm as Chief Executive of the newly formed LondonMetric. His extensive real estate experience includes a pivotal role at British Land, where he served as Executive Director and Head of Retail after joining through the Pillar acquisition in 2005. As a Board member at British Land, he oversaw shopping centers and retail park portfolios. Currently, Andrew brings his expertise to InstaVolt, a leading...

This week Nick talks to Steve Ruffley
 
Steve Ruffley is a professional trader of nearly 25 years. Steve offers personalised trading risk management and mentoring packages and is a published author with The Pro Retail Trader: How to Generate Professional-level Returns as a Retail Trader.
 
The discussion explores Steve Ruffley’s career in financial markets, detailing his journey from a university dropout to a professional trader. Initially working at PricewaterhouseCoopers, he later discovered his passion for trading in Gibraltar, where he joined a proprietary trading firm. Ruffley reflects on the challenges of professional trading, including high fina...

Season 4 kicks off with Nick talking to friend of the show, Dr Daniel Daniel who runs the The Crypto Investing Program.

Since the U.S. election in November  Bitcoin has experienced a significant bull run, with its price surging from approximately $69,000 on Election Day to over $100,000 by mid-January 2025. This upward trajectory is largely attributed to the election of President Donald Trump, who has expressed strong support for cryptocurrencies. His administration's pro-crypto stance, including plans to establish the U.S. as a "crypto capital" and the appointment of digital assets expert Paul Atkins as SEC Chair, has bolstered i...

This week Nick talks to Matt Timmins

Matt was appointed to the FINTEL Board in May 2010 after joining in 2002, bringing extensive expertise in sales, marketing, and mergers and acquisitions. He has cultivated strong relationships with key distribution partners and holds a Postgraduate Diploma in Marketing from the Chartered Institute of Marketing (CIM). With a background that includes various marketing roles at GE Capital, Misys, and DBS Financial Management, Matt combines deep industry knowledge with strategic leadership.

Nick and Matt talk about Matt's career, how FINTEL grew out of SimpyBiz to becoming the UK's leading financial...

This week Nick talks to Robbie Burns

Robbie has been a journalist and writer since earning his journalism degree from Harlow College in 1981. He began his career as a reporter and editor for various local newspapers before becoming editor of ITV and Channel 4’s teletext services from 1988 to 1992. During this time, he also wrote ITV’s daily teletext soap opera, Park Avenue, for five years.

Afterward, Robbie transitioned to freelance journalism, contributing to newspapers such as The Independent and The Sun, and played a role in establishing CNN’s financial news service. In 1997, he became editor...

Ed is the co-founder and CEO of the London Interdisciplinary School (LIS), a new university in east London that offers BASc and MASc which oriented around complex problems, not disciplines.

In 2012 Ed co-founded School 21 in Stratford with Peter Hyman and Oli de Botton. In 2017 the first GCSE class achieved grades that placed them in the top 5% of the country for attainment, and the school was awarded an Outstanding Ofsted. In 2014 Ed led the launch of Voice 21 to raise the status of oracy in schools. 

Ed has also advised the leaders of several education institutions including C...

This week Nick talks to Peter Curk

With over a decade of experience across multiple sectors, Pete has held diverse roles in executive management, customer experience, marketing, and business development. Currently serving as CEO of ICONOMI, previously leading Big Bang Slovenija as Customer Experience & eCommerce Director. Peter co-founded Dia-Vit Ltd, securing Series A funding, and consulted on digital marketing and sales strategy at Deloitte Slovenia. Earlier roles include interim CMO at GoOpti and COO at Renderspace, focusing on UX design and performance marketing, along with a 10-year tenure at A1 Slovenija d.d., enriching their foundation in...

This week Nick talks to Guy Gittins.

Guy became CEO of Foxtons in September 2022, bringing with him extensive experience in the property sector and leadership roles. Prior to rejoining Foxtons, he served as CEO of Chestertons, a renowned London-based and international residential property firm. Guy's career began at Foxtons, where he worked until 2006 before taking on the role of Sales and Marketing Director for Peter de Savary. In 2010, he joined Savills and later moved to Chestertons in 2012, leading their flagship Chelsea office. In 2018, he was appointed CEO of Chestertons

Nick and Guy discuss Guy's career...

This week Nick talks to Jeff Chatfield

Jeff serves as the Executive Chairman of Avation PLC and played a pivotal role in its founding and development. Throughout his career, he has held management and directorial positions in various companies across sectors such as the airline industry, data distribution, electronics, investment, broadcasting, and manufacturing. He holds both a Bachelor of Engineering and a Master of Engineering Science from the University of Western Australia. Additionally, he is a graduate member of the Australian Institute of Company Directors and a Fellow of the Singapore Institute of Directors. 

Nick a...

This week Nick talks to John Roberts

John began his career as a waiter and kitchen salesman. In 2000, he founded Appliances Online after a friend bet him £1 to start a business. His entrepreneurial journey gained momentum when, in 2014, he led AO World’s listing on the London Stock Exchange, which was valued at £1.2 billion at the time. John has stated that he built AO on his personal mottos: "treat every customer like your gran" and "make your mum proud." In 2021, he was ranked 30th in the Financial Times' list of the UK’s Top 100 Entrepreneurs, and he has wo...

This week Nick talk's to Corero's CEO Carl Herberger

Carl oversees the business strategy and execution at Corero Network Security, a leading provider of DDoS protection solutions. Corero specialises in automatic detection and protection systems, offering network visibility, analytics, and reporting tools. The technology safeguards against both external and internal DDoS threats, particularly in complex edge and subscriber environments, ensuring continuous internet service availability. Corero operates from centres in Marlborough, Massachusetts, USA, and Edinburgh, UK, with its headquarters in London. The company is listed on the AIM market of the London Stock Exchange.

Nick and...