The Grim Curriculum

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By: Dina Valentine and Charlotte Smelt

Welcome to The Grim Curriculum, a Canada based podcast, with hosts Charlotte and Dina. Join us as we chat about True Crime, Cryptids, Historic Events, and a whole lot more. If it’s macabre and nightmarish, we want to discuss it. Join us every Saturday for a new episode. Be sure to listen with the lights off.

Dennis Nilsen: Part One – The Kindly Killer
#175
11/01/2025

We’re kicking off a new series on Scottish serial killer Dennis Nilsen. Also known as “The Kindly Killer,” Nilsen’s story is as unsettling as it is fascinating and this series is going to get particularly weird and gruesome as we go along.

In Part One, we’re not yet diving into the murders themselves, but that doesn’t mean things aren’t strange already. From his isolated childhood to his time in the army and his complicated relationship with identity and loneliness, the groundwork for what’s to come is already deeply disturbing. Oh and we should warn y...


Fighting the Flu and Following the News: Robert Pickton and Patricia Krenwinkel Updates
10/25/2025

We are little under the weather this week, so bear with both of us as we’ve apparently caught the plague, but that’s not stopping us from diving into some true crime updates and Grim news.

We’re talking about the recent sentencing of the man who killed Robert Pickton in prison, as well as the latest decision to overturn Patricia Krenwinkel’s parole once again. We also chat about a surprising medical story involving a child performing brain surgery, and a few other strange and fascinating updates that crossed our feeds while we were battling The Blac...


Fighting the Flu and Following the News: Robert Pickton and Patricia Krenwinkel Updates
10/25/2025

We are little under the weather this week, so bear with both of us as we’ve apparently caught the plague, but that’s not stopping us from diving into some true crime updates and Grim news.

We’re talking about the recent sentencing of the man who killed Robert Pickton in prison, as well as the latest decision to overturn Patricia Krenwinkel’s parole once again. We also chat about a surprising medical story involving a child performing brain surgery, and a few other strange and fascinating updates that crossed our feeds while we were battling The Blac...


Grim Encounters 8
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10/18/2025

We are back with one of our favourite types of episode; Grim Encounters! We absolutely love when people send us in their own scary stories and today's tales did not disappoint. We have some haunted locations, some strange happenings at camp, a situation that our listener did not get paid enough to stand around and check out, and Dina even shares her own paranormal and scary experiences at the end! SO, grab a blankie and your hot cocoa, we're telling tales around the campfire.

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Ivan Milat Reactions, P. Diddy Sentencing & the Yogurt Shop Breakthrough
10/08/2025

This week on Extra Credit, we’re diving into your reactions to our Ivan Milat series — and our Australian listeners had some fascinating insights to share. We also chat about the recent sentencing of P. Diddy, a major breakthrough in the decades-old Austin, Texas Yogurt Shop case, and a shocking story involving a 95-year-old woman now facing serious charges in New York.

Charlotte brings a bit of light to the chaos with the crowning of 32 Chunk — the official champion of Fat Bear Week 2025! But things get weird again when Dina covers a Florida man’s unbelievable story that has...


Ivan Milat - The Backpacker Killer: Part 3
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10/04/2025

This week on The Grim Curriculum, we’re wrapping up our deep dive into one of Australia’s most infamous serial killers — Ivan Milat. In our final part, we follow the investigation that finally brought him down and the shocking evidence uncovered along the way. We also take a look at his bizarre antics behind bars, his death, and how even now, decades later, new and unsolved cases continue to be linked to his name.

We’re done with Ivan for now — but as more connections and developments continue to surface, we’ll be sure to keep you updated...


Ivan Milat - The Backpacker Killer: Part 2
#172
09/27/2025

This week on The Grim Curriculum, we continue our series on Australia’s Backpacker Killer, Ivan Milat. In Part 2, we focus on his victims — young travelers whose lives were cut short in the most brutal ways. By this point, Ivan is single again, having gone through a divorce with his wife Karen and a breakup with his brother’s partner Marilyn, and his isolation only seemed to fuel his rage. From puzzling disappearances to the harrowing discoveries made in the Australian bush up until 1993, these cases reveal the true scope of Milat’s violence. Join us as we trace the time...


EP171: Ivan Milat - The Backpacker Killer: Part 1
#171
09/13/2025

This week on The Grim Curriculum, we’re kicking off a brand-new series on one of Australia’s most infamous serial killers — Ivan Milat. In this first episode, we dive into his brutal and toxic family history, his chaotic childhood as one of 14 children, and the early warning signs that hinted at the darkness ahead. To truly understand what Milat became, we believe it’s crucial to examine the gritty details of his upbringing — and that’s exactly where we start.

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EXTRA CREDIT: Episode 60: Updates, Arrests, and Strange Deaths Pee Wee Gaskins, Canadian Cult Chaos, and Surgical Malpractice
09/13/2025

This week on Extra Credit, we’re diving into a shocking update connected to Pee Wee Gaskins. You remember Pee Wee, right? We covered him waaaay back in episodes six and seven. From there, we explore a case of medical malpractice involving a surgeon with an unsettling fetish, plus a disturbing foot fetish incident — unrelated to the medical malpractice case (shocking, we know). We also cover the arrest of a cult leader right here in Canada, and the release of a murderer tied to the infamous satanic panic era. And of course, we wrap things up with a strange and...


Episode 170: The Smurl Family Haunting
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09/06/2025

This week on The Grim Curriculum, we’re diving into one of the most chilling hauntings ever reported — the case of the Smurl family. Beginning in the 1970s, Jack and Janet Smurl claimed their Pennsylvania duplex was plagued by violent and terrifying paranormal activity. Their story eventually drew the attention of famed investigators Ed and Lorraine Warren, sparking intense media coverage, public debate, and decades of fascination. We’ll explore the Smurl family’s experiences, the Warrens’ involvement, and its connection to the ever-growing Conjuring universe.

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Episode 169: The Poisonous Legacy of Daisy de Melker
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08/30/2025

This week on The Grim Curriculum, we’re exploring the chilling "old timey" true crime case of Daisy de Melker, South Africa’s infamous “Black Widow.” Born in 1886, Daisy’s life seemed ordinary at first but behind her string of marriages and inheritances lurked a far darker tale. From the suspicious deaths of her husbands to the tragic fate of her son, investigators uncovered a pattern of poisonings that shocked the nation.

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Extra Credit EP59: Bears, Brothers (Menendez), Brian (Kohberger) and a Cheese Factory Tragedy
08/27/2025

It's Extra Credit time again, and we’re diving into another round of bizarre and fascinating stories. From a bear breaking into a California ice cream shop, to the ongoing parole hearings of the Menendez brothers, and Brian Kohberger's bad times in prison, there's plenty to unpack. We’ll also look at a dangerously misguided “catch a predator” vigilante scheme in Alberta, the curious case of Anna Delvey’s photo shoot mishap, and for this week’s Strange and Unusual Death — the tragic and bizarre tale of a cheese factory accident in where else but Italy.

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Episode 168: Mary Toft - The Great Rabbit Hoax
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08/23/2025

This week on The Grim Curriculum, we’re diving into one of the strangest medical hoaxes in history — the case of Mary Toft. In 1726, this woman from Surrey, England, shocked the medical world with her claim that she had given birth to rabbits. Was she a cunning manipulator, a victim of her circumstances, or something in between? Join us as we unravel the bizarre twists of this story that baffled doctors, fascinated the public, and became one of the most infamous hoaxes of the 18th century. Plus, this week’s episode was completely new to Charlotte, but it checks all th...


EXTRA CREDIT EP58: Extremely Concerning, Particularly Peculiar Medical Case & Atomic Wedgie Gone (FAR) Too Far
08/13/2025

First up, a Florida woman makes headlines after a violent confrontation — and then brags about it on Instagram Live. We’ll also tell you about another Florida woman who pulled off a case of identity theft with potentially deadly consequences, a man who injected himself with a rather unconventional substance (DEFINITELY DON’T TRY THIS AT HOME) to ease chronic back pain, and the story of a millionaire trophy hunter fatally gored by a Cape buffalo — a case sparking plenty of heated debate. And for our strange and unusual death this week? Let’s just say it involves a wedgie of...


Episode 167: The Infamous Cecil Hotel
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08/09/2025

This week on The Grim Curriculum, we’re (BRIEFLY) checking in to one of the most infamous addresses in Los Angeles; The Cecil Hotel. From its glamorous and bougie beginnings in the 1920s to its long, lonnnng, dark history of crime, tragedy, and mystery, this building has seen it all. We’ll explore some of the most notorious events linked to the Cecil, the strange stories that have made it a true urban legend, and why it continues to capture the public’s imagination nearly a whole century later.

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Episode 166: Peter Sutcliffe - The Yorkshire Ripper - Part 3
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08/02/2025

In the final part of our Yorkshire Ripper series, we talk about the strange hoax tape that completely threw the investigation off track and gave Peter Sutcliffe more time to keep killing. We share how, in the end, it wasn’t a major task force that caught him but one officer following a gut feeling that finally led to Sutcliffe’s arrest.

We also get into what happened after the trial: how he was treated in prison, the lasting impact his crimes had on society, and ultimately, how his life came to an end. This episode wraps up o...


EXTRA CREDIT EP57: From Kohberger to Chainsaws - Grim Justice & Unusual Deaths
08/02/2025

The Grim Curriculum: Extra Credit is where we set aside the syllabus and dig into true crime oddities, bizarre history, and the kinds of strange stories you can’t stop thinking about.

This week, we’re covering Bryan Kohberger’s sentencing and the powerful victim impact statements from court, exploring the grim end of Canadian serial killer Robert "Willie" Pickton and the tough ethical questions surrounding it, taking a historical detour with Dina’s new favorite “old timey” case—the wild story of young train wrecker Royal Grimm—and wrapping things up with a truly strange and unusual death… l...


Episode 165: Peter Sutcliffe - The Yorkshire Ripper - Part 2
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07/26/2025

In part 2, we are picking back up where we left off in our deep dive into the Yorkshire Ripper case. As Sutcliffe’s attacks became more frequent and brutal, the public response stayed disturbingly quiet, that is, until the murder of 16-year-old Jayne MacDonald. Because she didn’t fit the victim profile police had been focusing on, her death finally pushed the media and wider public to start paying attention.

We talk about how fear took hold across the North, especially for women just trying to go about their lives, and how the investigation kept missing key oppo...


Episode 164: Peter Sutcliffe - The Yorkshire Ripper - Part 1
#164
07/19/2025

It's the first instalment of our deep dive into the case of serial killer, Peter Sutcliffe, better known as the Yorkshire Ripper. We explore his childhood and early life, which to no one's surprise was abusive and strange. We also examine the social atmosphere in Yorkshire during his reign of terror, and the early attacks that set off a years-long investigation. This series also takes a hard look at the police missteps that let a predator stay hidden in plain sight and how that failure shaped public trust and modern policing in Britain.

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Episode 163: Extra Credit 56 - The Crossover Episode
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07/12/2025

We’re bringing you a mix of the bizarre, the brave, and the bleeding edge. We cover the strange and tragic case of a British woman who contracted rabies from a dog scratch abroad, spotlight the unforgettable life of LGBTQ icon, fashion trailblazer, and WWII war hero Bunny Roger, and dive into some mind-blowing advances in prosthetics and robotic skin that are equal parts cool and concerning.

We usually drop Extra Credit episodes every second Wednesday, but this one’s coming to you on a Saturday since Charlotte is out of the country for a couple of week...


Episode 162: The Murder of Fanny Adams
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07/05/2025

Today we’re exploring one of the most heartbreaking and historically significant cases in British true crime and an Old Timey Crimey to boot. The 1867 murder of 8-year-old Fanny Adams. What began as an ordinary summer day in the quiet town of Alton quickly became a national nightmare, and the name “Fanny Adams” would go on to take on a haunting legacy. We walk through the events of that day, the shocking discovery that followed, and the trial that helped shape the way murder cases were handled in the Victorian era. This is a difficult but important story that left a...


Episode 161: MORE Lesser Known Cryptids
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06/28/2025

We’re back with even more cryptids you may not have heard of, but probably won’t forget. In this unofficial part two of our lesser known cryptid series (see Episode 149 for Part 1), we dive into the murky waters and wild folklore surrounding Mokele Mbembe, the NASA Gargoyle, the Mapinguari, and the absolutely baffling Trunko. From dinosaur sightings in the Congo to mysterious monsters crashing space missions (maybe), we’re talking all things strange, sketchy, and slightly squishy.

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Episode 160: The Hammersmith Ghost Murder Case
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06/21/2025

In 1804, fear of a ghost roaming Hammersmith’s streets led to a fatal mistake. A man was shot dead, and the case raised legal questions that still matter today.

This is the true story of the Hammersmith Ghost murder. 👻⚖️

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Episode 159: Fred and Rose West: A Marriage of Monsters -Part 3
#159
06/14/2025

In the final part of our series on Fred and Rose West, we cover the final crimes at 25 Cromwell Street and how it all began to unravel. Thanks in large part to the determined work of DC Hazel Savage, the truth finally came to light. We walk through their arrest, Fred’s death in custody, Rose’s trial, and what became of her in the years that followed.

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EXTRA CREDIT EP55: She Plotted, He Escaped, and Someone Else Just Needed a Dentist
06/11/2025

In this Extra Credit episode, we’re covering a range of stories that caught our attention this week. We have an update about the sentencing of Victoria Goodwin, who tried to hire a hitman to kill her husband, Aaron Goodwin, of Ghost Adventures Fame. We also look at the case of Grant Harden, a former police chief convicted of murder and other just as heinous crimes, who escaped prison with help from a corrections officer, and a much lighter story about an inmate in Sweden who snuck out of prison to go to the dentist...and came back. We wr...


Episode 158: Fred and Rose West: A Marriage of Monsters - Part 2
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06/07/2025

In Part 2 of our series on Fred and Rose West, we delve deeper into their twisted partnership and the horrors that took place inside 25 Cromwell Street, the so-called "boarding house of horrors." We explore how the couple lured their victims, often trolling local bus-stops, the escalating violence, and how one of their living victims came incredibly close to burning it all down herself.

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Episode 157: Fred and Rose West: A Marriage of Monsters - Part 1
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05/31/2025

This is the first episode of our series on Fred and Rose West and we're diving right in. This is one of the most disturbing and haunting cases in British true crime history. Fred and Rose weren’t just serial killers, they were a couple who committed their crimes together, turning their family home into a house of horrors.

In part one, we are going back to the start; looking at Fred’s troubled past and rough upbringing as well as Rose’s own deeply dysfunctional childhood, and how the two came together to form a relationship built...


EXTRA CREDIT EP54: A Scandal in the Harvard Morgue & Can You Snowboard Down Mount Everest?
05/28/2025

We are exploring some more true stories that are stranger than fiction, real-life horror plots, the ethics behind the Harvard morgue scandal, and the risks of snowboarding Everest. We also dig into a game-changing dinosaur discovery, the twisted tale of the Casanova Killer and his recent execution, and the ultra-rare old timey case of death by meteorite.

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Episode 156: Richard Chase - The Vampire of Sacramento - Part 2
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05/24/2025

In part two of our series on Richard Chase, we examine the tragic outcome of his untreated mental illness and escalating behavior. Over the course of just one month in early 1978, Chase took the lives of six random people in a series of deeply troubling acts. Thankfully, community members and law enforcement were able to come together to find the monster responsible for these heinous acts. In our opinion, to call Richard Chase a human being feels like an insult to humanity. His actions were so horrifying, so devoid of empathy or reason, that he can only be described...


Episode 155: Richard Chase - The Vampire of Sacramento - Part 1
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05/17/2025

Before he became known as the “Vampire of Sacramento,” Richard Chase was a young man showing clear signs of severe mental illness and violent tendencies. We are starting this series tracing his early life; from a dysfunctional home and troubling teenage behavior, including animal cruelty and substance abuse, to his eventual diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia. As his delusions worsened, believing he didn't have enough blood and that his organs and bones were disappearing, Chase cycled through psychiatric institutions but was repeatedly released with little follow-up. A mix of personal decline and systemic failures laid the groundwork for one of the...


Extra Credit EP53: Stealing a Cannon to Pay for Your Debts & Legal Raccoon, Not So Legal...Substances
05/14/2025

In this episode, Dina takes us through three unusual cases where methamphetamines and animals intersect in ways you truly wouldn't expect. One involves a cannon, another a raccoon, and the third features a cheeky corgi. You can guess for yourselves (or just listen to the episode, silly) which cases involve the meth. These stories highlight the bizarre consequences of drug use and questionable decisions.

Charlotte brings two stories that have us looking up to the skies, starting with news about the descent of the failed Soviet lander Kosmos 482 back to Earth, followed by the tragic 2005 crash of...


Episode 154: The Abduction of Travis Walton
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05/10/2025

We thought it was time for a UFO story and we are taking a wild ride into one of the most famous alien abduction stories out there: The Case of Travis Walton. Back in 1975, Travis vanished from an Arizona forest while working with a logging crew, only to reappear five days later with a bizarre tale of being taken aboard a UFO. We break down what happened, the crew's polygraphs, public reaction, and why this case still has people debating decades later.

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Episode 153: Andrea Yates
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05/03/2025

In this episode, we dive into the heartbreaking and deeply disturbing case of Andrea Yates, the Texas mother who drowned her five children in a bathtub in 2001. We explore the events leading up to that tragic day, including her struggles with severe postpartum mental illness, and examine how the legal system handled one of the most shocking maternal filicide cases in American history.

**Editor note: apologies for the audio quality. We were trying something new. Will dial it in for next episode!

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Extra Credit EP 52: Scott Peterson & The Innocence Project, Historical Case: Bertha Beronda & Las Vegas Vet Found Deceased in Lake Mead
04/30/2025

This week, the title says it all... more or less. We’re not sure how we feel about Scott Peterson getting help from The Innocence Project, but we are definitely curious to see how it all plays out. Then, we throw it back to 1907 with the case of Bertha Beronda, the "old-timey Lorena Bobbitt," who made headlines after attacking her husband with a razor. We also cover the troubling discovery of eight bodies on the East Coast, raising fears of a potential serial killer or serial killers. And finally, we talk about the Las Vegas veterinarian who went viral fo...


Episode 152: Ed Kemper The Co-Ed Killer Part 3
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04/26/2025

After years of targeting young women, we watched Edmund Kemper’s story take a shocking turn when he murdered his own mother, Clarnell, and her friend, Sara Hallett. Ed staged it to look like a burglary gone wrong and fled to Colorado.

Feeling the pressure, Kemper tried to turn himself in by calling the police multiple times, but at first, they did not believe him. Only after he insisted to an officer he knew personally, did they finally take his confession seriously. At trial, Ed pleaded insanity, but he was found sane and sentenced to life in pr...


Episode 151: Ed Kemper The Co-Ed Killer Part 2
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04/19/2025

Before the murder of his mother, Clarnell, Edmund Kemper targeted female college students in the Santa Cruz area. Between 1972 and early 1973, he murdered six young women, most of whom he picked up while they were hitchhiking.

Kemper used his size, calm demeanor, and articulate speech to appear non-threatening. Once the victims were in his car, he killed them—often through strangulation or shooting. Afterward, he engaged in acts of necrophilia and dismembered their bodies, disposing of the remains in various locations throughout the region. All the while, he went unsuspected by anyone.

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Extra Credit EP51: True Crime, Dire Wolves & How One Woman’s Art Cracked Over 1,200 Cases
04/16/2025

From the latest Titanic documentaries to the science behind bringing extinct animals back to life (yep, we’re talking about the dire wolf!). We also get into some more intense true crime stories, including a heartbreaking murder committed by a 13-year-old girl in the UK. Things take a really cool turn when we talk about legendary forensic artist Lois Gibson, who’s helped crack over 1,266 cases. And of course, we couldn’t resist wrapping up with the bizarre mystery of spontaneous human combustion.

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Episode 150: Ed Kemper The Co-Ed Killer Part 1
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04/12/2025

We told you we had BIG plans for episode 150. To kick off, we’re diving into the early life of Edmund Emil Kemper III. Long before the headlines and the horrifying crimes, there was a kid growing up in a deeply dysfunctional home. From a rocky relationship with his overbearing mother to some seriously disturbing behavior as a child, Kemper’s story raises big questions about what really shapes a killer.

We talk a lot on this show about nature versus nurture, and honestly with Ed, it feels like an especially unlucky mix of both. We are unpa...


Episode 149: Lesser Known Cryptids
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04/05/2025

This week, we’re taking a break from our usual gruesome true crime tales to explore the weirder side of the unexplained! We've talked about many well known cryptids before but what about some of the lesser-known (and seriously bizarre) creatures out there, like the Underwater Abominable Snowman, the Dover Demon, the Snallygaster, and the Pope Lick Monster? From spooky sightings to downright strange backstories, these critters have some wild legends behind them.

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Extra Credit Episode 50: Yolanda Saldívar Denied Parole, Hitmen Don't Solve Marital Issues & Yet Another Submarine Tragedy
04/02/2025

It’s our 50th episode of Extra Credit and it's also our THIRD birthday! Not to mention we are just a couple of episodes away from 150 of The Grim Curriculum regular show. To celebrate, we’re diving into a mix of the strange, the shocking, and the downright bizarre (Let's be honest, this is really nothing new). We chat about Yolanda Saldívar’s denied parole (yep, she’s still behind bars for Selena’s murder), and a wild hitman plot straight out of Alberta. Plus, we take a deep dive (badum-tisss) into a recent tragic submarine accident in the Red Sea...