Modern Classrooms Project Podcast
Your hosts discuss the model and its implications for the future of education, along with guests including MCP implementors such as mentors, teachers, and administrators.
FEED DROP: The Exit Interview

For this feed drop, here's an episode of The Exit Interview, with Dr. Asia Lyons. We hope you enjoy!
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Shortcast 53: Unit Zero and a Day in the Life of a Modern Classroom

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Toni Rose is joined by Emily Dia to talk about using a Unit Zero to introduce the model, and they go on to describe a day in the life of a Modern Classroom once students have internalized the routines.
Show Notes
Toni Rose's Unit 0 Calendar
Keeping up with the Modern Classrooms: Episode #1: Unit 0
Marissa’s Classroom
Johns Hopkins research data on MCP
Unit 0 One pager
Family intro email
Unit 0 Reflection
Unit 0, Lesson 1
Family Communication Toolkit
Icebreaker Ideas:
Shortcast 42: The Student Experience in a Modern Classroom

This week, Kareem is joined by one of his former students, Jayme Mims, to talk about the Modern Classrooms model from the student's perspective, how it facilitates learning and responsibility in school, and how it prepares students for success in college and beyond
Show Notes
Edutopia Video
Progress Trackers
The Warm Demander
Follow us online and learn more:
Modern Classrooms: @modernclassproj on Twitter and facebook.com/modernclassproj Kareem: @kareemfarah23 on Twitter Kate: @gaskill_teacher on Twitter The Modern Classroom Project Modern Classrooms Online Course Take our free online...FEED DROP: Under the Hat, with Steve Martinez

For our fourth feed drop episode, we're happy to share this episode of Steve Martinez' Under the Hat podcast. We hope you enjoy it as much as we did!
You can find more info on Under the Hat and subscribe here
Shortcast 207: How MCP Impacts the College Experience

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Guest host Avery Balasbas is joined by a panel of his previous students who are now in college to discuss their MCP experience and how it prepared them for learning beyond high school
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Avery's previous MCP Podcast episodes:
Episode 139: Teacher and Learner Reflection Practices Episode 200: Celebrating 200 EpisodesSubway Surfers
Ochem Tutor
Blackpenredpen
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Email us...Shortcast 183: Student Perspective (HS)

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Toni Rose is joined by Sarahya College, a high school sophomore, who offers incredible insight into the student experience of learning in a modern classroom as well as advice for teachers who are implementing the model
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Contact us, follow us online, and learn more:
Email us questions and feedback at: podcast@modernclassrooms.org Listen to this podcast on Youtube Modern Classrooms: @modernclassproj on Twitter and facebook.com/modernclassproj Kareem: @kareemfarah23 on Twitter Toni Rose...FEED DROP: The Balance with Catlin Tucker

For our third feed drop episode, we're happy to share this episode of Catlin Tucker's The Balance podcast. We hope you enjoy it as much as we did!
You can find more info on The Balance podcast and subscribe here
Shortcast 60 - Middle School Student Experience

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Toni Rose is joined by two of her former 6th grade students, Lila and Tyler (currently 8th graders) to talk about their experience in Modern Classrooms throughout middle school - in person, in remote learning, and in general
Show Notes
Edpuzzle (and MCP Tutorial)
Kahoot
Quizlet
Follow us online and learn more:
Modern Classrooms: @modernclassproj on Twitter and facebook.com/modernclassproj Kareem: @kareemfarah23 on Twitter Kate: @gaskill_teacher on Twitter Toni rose: @classroomflex on Twitter and Instagram The Modern Classroom...Shortcast 219 - Student Voice (EC)

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Zach is joined by Marlene Tapia Garcia and three of her first grade students, Olivia, Arya, and Ethan, to talk about their experience in a Modern Classroom.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
MCP Podcast episode 138: La RevisiĂłn y las Pruebas de Dominio (Marlene's previous episode, entirely in Spanish with an English blog recap)
Two-Way Language Programs
Spring Math
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Email us q...FEED DROP - Lifelong Learning Defined with Jorge Valenzuela: Season 3, Episode 19 - From Compton to the World: Building STEM Futures Through Project-Based Learning with Jose González

For our second feed drop of the summer off-season, we'd love to share an episode of Jorge Valenzuela's Lifelong Learning Defined podcast. This episode is called "From Compton to the World: Building STEM Futures Through Project-Based Learning with Jose González"
You can find the Lifelong Learning Defined Podcast here
Shortcast 213 - Do We Want Students To Be On Pace or Actually Learning?

Toni Rose is joined by Drea Siford to talk about her approach to teaching 4th grade using the MCP model
Show Notes
Listen to the full version of this episode here
Zearn
Eureka Math
Angela Watson's Truth for Teachers podcast, and the episode with Kareem:
3 practices to give you more one-on-one time with studentsEmail Drea at amsiford@bcps.k12.md.us
Drea's game board
Announcements for the Upcoming Week
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Shortcast 204: Reflections from a Four-Year Implementer

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Toni Rose is joined by Sam Ortiz to talk about her experience implementing the model over four school years, addressing concerns from stakeholders, and engaging with the MCP community
Show Notes
Screencastify and Screencastify Submit
Quizziz
MCP Self-Paced Structures resources (including the tracker templates Sam mentioned)
MCP Free Course (also linked below in every episode!)
Connect with Sam on Instagram @thatteachermomma
Learning Experiences for the Upcoming Week
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FEED DROP: Boundaries and Balance: Practical Solutions for Teacher Burnout

For our first feed drop of the summer, we'd love to share this episode of Teachers Talkin' with you! Teachers Talkin’ is a discussion-based podcast hosted by Dustin Tatroe and Ghazali Abdul-Wahab, focused on elevating conversations in education. Each episode features honest, reflective dialogue with educators from around the world on topics ranging from instructional practices and leadership to school culture and professional growth. The goal is to create a space for inspiration, challenge, and connection—where teachers and education leaders can explore what’s working, what’s not, and how we move forward together.
You can find the...
Shortcast 201 - Increasing Student and Teacher Confidence

TR is joined by Megan Meachum to talk about how the MCP model benefited both herself and her students, and her plans for the coming school year.
Read a summary of the original episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Listen to the full version of this episode here
Remember, you can now listen to this episode (and all episodes) on Youtube!
Email Megan at megan.meachum@modernclassrooms.org
Learning Experiences for the Week of June 1st, 2025
Calling all school and district leaders...
Episode 240: Hacking Assessments

TR is joined by Starr Sackstein to talk about how teachers can authentically innovate and disrupt in the realm of assessment.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Starr Sackstein
Starr's book, Hacking Assessment
Starr and Alexandra Laing's new book, Solving School Challenges: The Everything Guide to Transformative Change
Starr's TED Talk
Starr's podcast, Learner Centered Spaces
Connect with Starr on LinkedIn
Learning Experiences for the Upcoming Week
Calling all school and...
Episode 239: Wavio

Guest host Aimee Yocom is joined by Dana Kravchick to talk about the Wavio Pulse tracker, developed specifically for MCP. They discuss how Wavio came to be, how it can be used in the classroom, and what the future holds for the platform.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Wavio and The Wavio Pulse Tracker
Khan Lab School
Zach's tracker
Connect with Dana:
Email at dana@mywavio.com Book a chat Linkedin FacebookLearning Experiences for the...
Episode 238: What About the High Achievers?

TR is joined by Jocelyn Hieatzman to talk about how high achieving students can learn from discomfort as they thrive in a Modern Classroom.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
MCP Podcast Episode 56: Veteran Teachers (Jocelyn's first appearance on the podcast)
Canvas LMS
Jocelyn's Unit 2 Lesson 2 exemplar
Jocelyn's Canvas tutorial
Connect with Jocelyn by email at jocelyn_hieatzman@hcpss.org
Learning Experiences for the Upcoming Week
Calling all school and district leaders! We...
Episode 237: 5th Grade Collaboration

TR is joined by a fifth grade teaching team to talk about how they work together to use the MCP model in their different classes.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Connect with Abby, Amy, and Madeline by email Abby: abby.munn@tempeschools.org Amy: amy.wisehart@tempeschools.org Madeline: madeline.cole@tempeschools.orgLearning Experiences for the Upcoming Week
Calling all school and district leaders! We are hosting a virtual Summer Summit on June 24th for leaders supporting Modern Classrooms educators. Leaders...
Episode 236: Gifted Education

TR is joined by Alex Clough to talk about gifted learners and how to help them thrive in a Modern Classroom.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Differentiation Doesn't Work, by James Delisle
Differentiation Does, in Fact, Work, by Carol Tomlinson
NAGC and the NAGC Annual Convention
SENG: Supporting Emotional Needs of the Gifted and the SENG Annual Community Conference and Retreat
William and Mary Center for Gifted Education
Council for Exceptional Children (CEC) and...
Episode 235: Is AI the Solution?

TR is joined by Carlos Canela to talk about how educators can use AI responsibly and the importance of connection, even in an AI-forward classroom.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Carlos' Padlet with AI resources for teachers
MCP's Instagram
Black Male Educators Convening (BMEC) conference
Knowlej
Padlet
Canva
Magic School
Diffit
TextFX
Large Language Models discussed in this episode:
Google Gemini ChatGPT Llama Claude...
Episode 234: Learned Helplessness

Toni Rose is joined by Ernest Rodriguez to discuss learned helplessness and the importance of SEL and vulnerability in a student-centered classroom.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Hot Yoga
On Purpose, with Jay Shetty
Gimkit
Connect with Ernest by email at mr.rod2425@gmail.com
Learning Experiences for the Upcoming Week
Toni Rose Deanon and Lauren Kimlinger, MCP implementers and DMCE, are presenting on Inside Out: A Joyful Journey of Learning and Growth at Oregon...Episode 233: Driver Education

TR is joined by Debbie Fry to talk about how she uses the MCP model in her Driver Education, P.E., and Health classes.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
MCP Podcast Episode 231: Physical Education
Connect with Debbie by email at deborah.fry@cpschools.com
Contact us, follow us online, and learn more:
Email us questions and feedback at: podcast@modernclassrooms.org Listen to this podcast on Youtube Modern Classrooms: @modernclassproj on Twitter and facebook.com/modernclassproj Kareem: @kareemfarah23 on...Episode 232: Workforce Readiness Training

TR is joined by Sam Meisenburg, co-founder of Study Snacks, to talk about the importance of, and methodologies for, teaching cybersecurity and AI concepts to high schoolers.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Study Snacks
Transparent bird feeder
Brave Browser
Onion Router and the Tor Project
Duck Duck Go (alternative search engine, more private than Google)
Connect with Sam on LinkedIn. You can also email him at hello@studysnacks.net
Learning Experiences for...
Episode 231: Physical Education

TR is joined by Jake Bersin to talk about the unique considerations of teaching health and PE and the ways he thinks MCP may benefit health and PE teachers.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
TGFU Model of PE teaching
Jake's Padlet "Advocacy and Education Beyond the Classroom Walls"
MAHPERD (Massachusetts Association for Health, Physical Education, Recreation, and Dance Inc.)
Insta~lesson, by Rob Barnett
Connect with Jake using his Padlet (linked above), on Bluesky, or at...
Episode 230: HS Credit Recovery Team

TR is joined by Amy Steele, Kara Cisco, Renee Swanson, and Sierra Burris to talk about their work incorporating MCP into the credit recovery program in St. Paul Public Schools.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Alternative Education in St. Paul
MCP University (link to come)
Canva, and Kara's video on using it
ChatGPT
Sierra's class layout
You can contact Amy, Kara, Renee, and Sierra by email:
amy.steele@spps.org kara.cisco@spps...Episode 229: Family and Consumer Science

TR is joined by Mauranda Comley to talk about using the MCP model in a middle school Family and Consumer Sciences classroom.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Family and Consumer Science
Mauranda's article in NGLC, "Benefits of Self-Pacing in Skills-Based, Hands-On Classes"
Vygotsky's Zone of Proximal Development
Mauranda's Reflection Form and Exploring Career's Choice Board tes
Mauranda's business, "My Wholesome Table"
Connect with Mauranda on her website, or by email at mauranda.comley@modernclassrooms...
Episode 228: iReady

TR is joined by Teri McNulty to talk about how she uses MCP in conjunction with iReady to plan and teach units in her 5th grade class.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Disney Castle Lego set
iReady
Teri's pacing tracker
Connect with Teri in the MCP Facebook group here, and linked below the show notes for each episode (scroll down!), every week. Come join us!
Learning Experiences for the Upcoming Week
Join educators Carol...
Episode 227: From Content- to Skills-Based Teaching With MCP

Zach is joined by Carson Hickox to talk about how MCP transformed his middle school social studies classroom and his approach to teaching in general.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Captain Underpants
Proficiency-based grading
Cult of Pedagogy Podcast on Mastery Based Grading with MCP
Richard DuFour (The PLC at Work Process)
"Focus: Elevating the Essentials to Radically Improve Student Learning," by Mike Schmoker
"The Knowledge Gap: The Hidden Cause of America's Broken Education System...
Episode 226: I Want Students To Be Proud

TR is joined by Jamie Nutter to talk about her approach to using and sharing MCP as an instructional coach.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Connect with Jamie by email at jnutter@hoover.k12.al.usLearning Experiences for the Upcoming Week
Join Arpan Choski, Katie Fatiga, and Lindsey Anderson, distinguished Modern Classroom Educators, for a live webinar on Tuesday, February 18 at 6pm ET, where they'll share their expertise in transforming your Social Studies classroom into a dynamic, personalized learning environment.Â
Episode 225: History + MCP

TR is joined by Frank Hernandez to talk about his approach to teaching social studies using MCP.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Document-Based Questions (DBQs)
"Code Talker: A Novel About the Navajo Marines of World War Two," by Joseph Bruchac
Quizziz
Eduphoria
Snorkl
Connect with Frank by email at frank.hernandez@modernclassrooms.org
Learning Experiences for the Upcoming Week
Looking for virtual connection? Join our implementer meetup on Wednesday, Feb, 12...
Episode 224: Kindergarten Classroom

TR is joined by Saenovia Smith to talk about how she implements MCP in her kindergarten classroom.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Elmo document cameras
Adam Grant
MCP's new progress tracker (in partner ship with Wavio)
Connect with Saenovia by email at the219teacher@gmail.com
Learning Experiences for the Upcoming Week
Do you ever wonder how to meet all of your learners’ needs at once? That’s natural! Every student needs different things, and...
Episode 223: Zach and TR

Zach and TR catch up and chat about Zach's new role as a high school media production teacher, planning new courses, and transitioning into different teaching roles with MCP.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Soundtrap
Dragon TV Youtube Channel (DCI's student television program)
Zach's progress tracker
An example of Zach's lessons with animated gifs
CleanShot X (excellent screenshot and screen recording application) (also available on Setapp if you have a subscription)
Zach's MCP Email...
Episode 222: IntroducciĂłn al Modelo MCP y el Aprendizaje Basado en Proyectos

This episode is in Spanish. Zach is joined by Rossana Gotuzzo to talk about the basics of the MCP model and how she uses project based learning in her art classes
Show Notes
Edpuzzle
Zach's tracker (el rastreador que usa Zach en su clase)
MCP's Comprehensive Guide to Progress Trackers
Project Based Learning (aprendizaje basado en proyectos)
Connect with Rossana on (pueden conectarse con Rossana por) Instagram @rossanagotuzzoartista or by email at (o por email) rossanagotuzzo75@gmail.com
Learning Experiences for the Upcoming Week
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Zach is joined by Rob Barnett, MCP Chief Product Officer and Co-Founder, to talk about his new book, "Meet Every Learner's Needs," which comes out on February 5th, 2025.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Rob's upcoming book, "Meet Every Learner's Needs: Redesigning Instruction so ALL Students can Succeed" (and on Amazon)
Click here for a chance to win a copy of "Meet Every Learner's Needs"
MCP Podcast Episode 12 - Modern Classrooms Founder's Chat (Rob's first time on the podcast)
...
Episode 220: Elementary Special Education

Zach is joined by Leslie Pittman to talk about her approach to using MCP as an elementary special education teacher.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Connect with Leslie on Instagram @leslie_jaybirdContact us, follow us online, and learn more:
Email us questions and feedback at: podcast@modernclassrooms.org Listen to this podcast on Youtube Modern Classrooms: @modernclassproj on Twitter and facebook.com/modernclassproj Kareem: @kareemfarah23 on Twitter Toni Rose: @classroomflex on Twitter and Instagram The Modern Classroom Project Modern Classrooms Online Course ...Episode 219: Student Voice (EC)

Zach is joined by Marlene Tapia Garcia and three of her first grade students, Olivia, Arya, and Ethan, to talk about their experience in a Modern Classroom.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
MCP Podcast episode 138: La RevisiĂłn y las Pruebas de Dominio (Marlene's previous episode, entirely in Spanish with an English blog recap)
Two-Way Language Programs
Spring Math
Contact us, follow us online, and learn more:
Email us questions and feedback at: podcast@modernclassrooms.org Listen t...Episode 218: Culturally Responsive Teaching

Zach is joined by Xian Lu to talk about culturally responsive teaching and the importance of prioritizing authentic relationships with students.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
MCP Podcast episode 114: World Language Acquisition (more of a focus on language learning, with Xiaomin Sun)
Building a Class Contract for Antiracist Learning (the Nearpod lesson Xian mentions)
Learning for Justice
Culturally Responsive Teaching and the Brain, by Zaretta Hammond
Why Are All the black Kids Sitting Together in the...
Episode 217: Caregiver Perspective

Toni Rose is joined by April Burton, who shares her perspective as both a school leader and the parent of a student in an MCP math class.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
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Connect with April on X (Twitter) @mmeburton and on LinkedIn
Contact us, follow us online, and learn more:
Email us questions and feedback at: podcast@modernclassrooms.org Listen to this podcast on Youtube Modern Classrooms: @modernclassproj on Twitter and facebook.com/modernclassproj Kareem: @kareemfarah23 on Twitter ...We're taking the week off!

Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving! We'll be back next Sunday
Learning Experiences for the Upcoming Week
Are you curious about the impact of your teaching practices? Do you want to delve deeper into student learning and improve your instructional strategies? This webinar is designed to equip educators with the knowledge and skills to conduct meaningful classroom-based research. Join us on Wednesday, December 4, 6pm ET to learn more. Register here.Episode 216: Think Like a Scientist

Toni Rose is joined by Darius Brown to discuss his approach to teaching high school chemistry and using the model to build lifelong learners and scientific thinkers.
Read a summary of this episode on the Modern Classrooms Project blog.
Show Notes
Darius' Youtube Channel
Connect with Darius by email at darius.brown@modernclassrooms.org
Learning Experiences for the Upcoming Week
Want to connect with other educators of color who are creating a more student-centered learning environment? Join our monthly Shades of Excellence meetup on Monday, November 25, 7pm ET...