The ChurchGear Podcast

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By: Toby Walters [Church Tech Advocate]

Are you a church tech director? If so, this podcast exists to serve you specifically. Each week we pull the tech director out of the booth and place them onto the stage to share their most outlandish stories and hidden wisdom from the tech trenches. Hosted by Toby Walters and Blake Hodges.

Is Your PA Out of Tune? [Bethel Church's Chris Greely]
#175
Last Monday at 10:00 AM

Is your PA out of tune? 


Chris Greely thinks it likely is. Join us on the ChurchGear podcast to hear his PA hot takes and more! 


In this episode you'll hear:

1:00 – When Your Sunday Worlds Collide
3:45 – Special Guest: Chris Greely Joins the Show!
5:45 – Chris’ Journey Into Church Production
14:30 – Developing the Next Church Tech Leader
22:30 – Fastest Way to Get Booted from a Tour
25:00 – Tuning a PA: What Does That Actually Mean?
30:45 – Mixing for the Room vs. Mixing for the Livestream
33:30 – “Baffl...


Pastor. Integrator. Tech. [Ark Church's Chris Allgood]
#174
06/16/2025

How do you get the title of "Pastor" in your title as a church tech? 



Chris Allgood joins us from Ark church to tell us about his unique role as a church production pastor, how Ark church integrates and a truly painful church tech disaster story.  



In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 – Near-death stories from Toby & Blake’s 20s

4:00 – Meet Chris from Ark Church (church tech leader spotlight)

7:00 – Chris’s journey into...


Hillsong Church's Reid Wall on Australian Churches
#173
06/09/2025

What is church production like in Australia? 


Hillsong Church's Reid Wall joins us to discuss the differences in church tech down under, the origins of Hillsong Church and the creative solutions he has created. 



In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 – Journey Church: Behind-the-Scenes Tech Story
6:00 – Reid Wall Joins the Show
11:00 – The Origin of Hillsong Church
15:00 – Church Culture & Tech in Australia
19:30 – What to Expect at Gather 2025 (Church Production Focus)
25:45 –...


Scuba Production & Multi Site Scaling [MOSAIC Pro Events's Brad McCraw]
#172
06/02/2025

How do you quickly scale your church production to multiple campuses? 


Join us to hear Brad McCraw tell us how he approached CCV's multi site expansion and stay to hear his unbelievable water production story at the end. 



In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 – Behind the Scenes of “The Mix” Church Tech Events
6:15 – Guest Intro: Brad McCraw from CCV Church
10:00 – How CCV Church Built a Multi-Site Tech Strategy
28:45 – Baffle Blake: Tech Trivia Challenge
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Integration Insights & Tech Horror Story [Terry Rhodes]
#171
05/26/2025

Can you save money by doing integration projects yourself?


Terry Rhodes joins us this week to discuss wireless mics, integration dos and don'ts and he gives us a chilling cautionary tell unlike any story we've ever heard on the podcast before. 


In this episode you'll hear:

1:00 – Funny Church Tech Stories: Toby's Mic Antics
4:30 – Interview Begins: Meet Terry Rhodes
8:15 – Church Audio in the Analog Days: What Was It Like?
14:15 – Mixing Philosophy: Is Less Really More in Church Sound?


Super Bowl Production: Broadcasting [Brandon Broussard]
#170
05/19/2025

Have you ever wondered what production it takes to pull off the Super Bowl?  



Brandon Broussard joins the ChurchGear podcast this week to tell us all about the broadcast, camera work and prep that is required to make the biggest moment in sports each year! 



In this episode you'll hear: 

00:00 – Intro + Super Bowl  Production Recap for Church Techs03:30 – Meet Brandon Broussard – Former Super Bowl Crew & Church TD05:11 – How Brandon Got Started in Church Production08:25 – Brandon’s Role in Super Bowl Production – Beh...


AI's Impact on Church Production [Gloo's Brad Hill]
#169
05/12/2025

How will AI impact church production? 



Brad Hill joins us from Gloo to discuss how the church can be out in front of the AI revolution to make our services more accessible to everyone. 



In this episode you'll hear:

1:00 – Toby & Blake Dive into Church Tech Mindsets (Behind the Curtain)
4:30 – Brad Hill from Gloo Joins the Conversation (Church Data & Tech Insight)
8:15 – Brad’s Journey in Church Technology (From Strategy to Software)
14:30 – Should Churches Use AI to Translate Services? (T...


Production For a 150 Year Old Church [Craig Rowley]
#168
05/05/2025

What church production challenge come from a congregation that has a 150 year old history? 


Craig Rowley is the church tech of White's Chapel Methodist Church and he joins us this week to discuss how to keep your team healthy



In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 Why Houston’s Churches Use Studer Vista Mixing Consoles for Worship Audio4:30 Meet Craig from White’s Methodist Chapel — Church Production Director9:45  What It’s Like Attending Rupert Neve’s Birthday Party as a Church Audio Tech14:45 Craig’s Journey Into Ch...


Immersive Audio: Help or Hype? [Caleb Loeppky]
#167
04/28/2025

Is immersive audio helpful for churches or just needless hype? 


Caleb Loeppky joins us for our final Five Year Anniversary Celebration episode and we discuss our first, big gear pickup ever, immersive audio, and the reason to have two mics for your pastor. 



In this episode you'll hear:

1:00 – Almost Died Waiting for the Train (Church Tech Confessions)6:25 – Meet Caleb Loeppky from Amplio Systems (Church AVL Expert Joins)20:00 – ChurchGear’s First Big Gear Haul (Behind-the-Scenes Church Tech)24:45 – Are SSL 550 Consoles Church-Worthy? (Christ Community Church Setup)32:06...


Find A Leader You Can Follow [MxU's Spencer De Young]
#166
04/21/2025

How can you fast track your development as church production leader? 



Spencer De Young, CEO of MxU, joins us to talk about leadership, the value of mentorship, and how MxU is equipping church tech leaders through intentional training.



In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 – ChurchGear’s Worst Church Visit 6:00 – MxU's CEO Spencer Visits the Podcast16:15 – Spencer’s Path to Leading MxU 26:00 – How MxU Creates Church Tech Training Videos33:15 – Baffle Blake (Presented by HouseRight)3...


Keep it Simple [ChurchFront's Jake Gosselin]
#165
04/14/2025

Gear vs. Talent. 

Simple Tech vs. Fancy Tech. 

Murder Mountain vs. a Warehouse.



Jake Gosselin joins us for our second 5 Year Anniversary episode to discuss all of this and more!



In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 Murder Mountain aka “The ChurchGear Barn” 5:15 ChurchFront’s Jake Gosselin joins us! 11:15 How did Jake get into church production? 26:15 Church production disaster story 36:30 Church Production Hot Takes: Keep it simple as possible for as long as possible 42:15 Is it better to pay for skille...


7 Wildest Moments in CG History [5 Yr Anniversary Celebration]
#164
04/07/2025

We’re celebrating our 5 year anniversary with a crazy story round up!


2 Gas mishaps. 2 Lighting strikes. And our favorite pastor knows who we are?!


Join us on the ChurchGear podcast to hear the 7 wildest moments that have happened over the past 5 years. 



In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 Can we fix Blake? 6:45 “Five Truths and a Lie” about ChurchGear history 16:45 Story 1: “They see me rolling!” 20:45 Story 2: “Lighting Strikes” 23:40 Story 3: “Evacuate the Warehouse” 26:00 Story 4: “I hear a nuclear bomb” 33:30 Story 5: “I want to introduce you to my dad!” 36...


Healthy, Responsible Teams [Elevation’s Jared Olson]
#163
03/31/2025

How do you keep services on schedule while still keeping your team healthy and energized? 


Jared Olson, Production Director at Elevation Church, joins the ChurchGear podcast to share how Elevation Church upholds both a high standard of excellence and a healthy team culture



In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 – Super Bowl Halftime Show: Production & AVL Breakdown
5:15 – Jared Olson (Elevation Church) Talks Church Production
20:30 – Keeping Your Church Tech Team Focused & Healthy
28:00 – Super Bowl Audio: Dif...


Honoring Volunteers & the Sabbath [Ryan Wenzel CCV]
#162
03/24/2025

How can you care for your volunteers well? 



Ryan Wenzel joins us this week to tell us how they honor their volunteers at Christ Church of the Valley.  



In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 Church Tech Fail: The “Butt Smack” Incident
4:15 Ryan Wenzel (Christ’s Church of the Valley) Joins the Show
13:20 Ryan’s Journey into Church Production
25:00 First Steps for Training Church Production Volunteers
29:00 Honoring & Valuing Your Church Tech Volunteers
32:15 Prioritizing Sabbath as a Church Prod...


Community Builds Production [Grove Church’s Christina Pendleton]
#161
03/17/2025

How do you build a strong production team?


Christina Pendleton joins us to discuss how we can build strong production teams by focusing on the community we are building in our teams. 



In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 – Nonsense Opening 

5:45 – Meet Christina Pendleton from Grove Church

15:45 – Christina’s Journey into Church Production

19:00 – Finding Community in Church Production

22:45 – Getting More Women Involved in Church Production 

25:15 – Why Building a Strong Production Team Matters

25:55 – How to Recruit More...


DiGiCo Download: Coming Gear & Best Soft Skills [Ryan Shelton]
#160
03/10/2025

After more than 150+ episodes, the ChurchGear podcast finally landed a pod with the most elusive guest we've ever had: DiGiCo's Ryan Shelton! 



Come for the heck the hosts give him for finally recording with them. Stay for the expertise Ryan shares on essential soft skills, top AVL mistakes he is seeing and a fun update on all things DiGiCo. 



In this episode you'll hear

1:00 🎤 Inside the “Exclusive” DiGiCo Lounge at FILO Conference 

4:25 🎧 Ryan Shelton from DiGiCo Joins the Podcast! ...


Is Live Streaming Essential for Church Services in 2025? [Tyler Kerpsack]
#159
03/03/2025

Is live streaming still a must for churches in 2025? 


In this episode, we sit down with AVL pro Tyler Kerpsack to tackle the big questions. Who should stream their services? How can your church stream on a budget? Could remote mixing be in the future church tech toolbox? 


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 Crazy ChurchGear driving adventures 5:00 Meet Tyler Kerpsack – Church AVL Pro14:00 Tyler’s Journey into AVL Production19:00 How to Tell If Your Church Mix Is Good21:00<...


From Willow Creek to CCV: A Church Production Veteran’s Insights
#158
02/24/2025

Touring Life + Willow Creek Production + Christ's Church of the Valley = A Production Pro. 


Ivan Talamantes (Christ’s Church of the Valley, Willow Creek) shares his journey from touring pro to church tech leader. He gives us insights on volunteers, gear, and the best (and worst) audio consoles in church production!


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 🎙️ Toby never set a lineup in the CG Fantasy Football League4:45 🎛️ Special Guest: Ivan Talamantes from Christ’s Church of the Valley10:00 🎚️ How Ivan got started in church production12:00 🎤 Behind the scenes of Willow Creek C...


Don't Do Church Production Alone [FILO's Todd Elliott]
#157
02/17/2025

How can you connect with fellow church production friends to navigate the journey of church tech together?


Todd Elliott joins us to share church tech disaster stories, tips for effectively communicating with leadership, and how to build meaningful friendships in the church production space—so you never have to walk the journey alone.



In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 What happened to the back tracks at the inauguration?7:00 Todd Elliott joins us! 9:00 Five Truths and a Lie for FILO 2025 16:00 What is the FILO conference? 23:20 Disaster Story: “I prayed to God and my p...


From Mixing to Marriage: A Church Production Love Story [Fellowship Church]
#157
02/10/2025

"What’s it like to marry someone from your church production team—and then keep working side by side every Sunday? Let’s talk about it!"


Alexa and Daniel join us for a special Valentine’s Day episode! Hear how their shared passion for church production led them to find love—not just in their work, but in each other. Plus, all the unique challenges and surprises that come with being married to your church production co-worker!


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 How Church Production Led Toby to His...


Central Church's Production Approach [Ryan Fuller]
#156
02/03/2025

How do you do church production in Las Vegas?


Ryan Fuller joins us this week to discuss Central Church's gear setup, approach to production and sources for inspiration.


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 Toby’s first Vegas trip 6:20 Ryan Fuller joins us from Central Church in Vegas 12:20 How did Ryan get into church production at Central Church? 15:30 What AVL productions do you watch for inspiration? 16:30 How do you do church production in Las Vegas? 20:00 Why is Central Church moving from Red Cameras to Cannon?22:45 How does Central Church in Vegas use came...


Maximizing Gear, Not Budgets [Red Rocks Church's Chase Donald]
#155
01/27/2025

How do you balance expectations and budgets simultaneously?


Chase Donald works in production at Red Rocks church and he joins us to discuss balancing expectations, maximizing gear, and focusing on your church's unique production goals. 


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 What games did ChurchGear play at the annual retreat? 4:15 Chase Donald joins us! 13:00 How did Chase get a job in church production at Red Rocks Church? 14:45 How does Red Rocks do so much production on a tight budget? 32:00 How do you balance budget and expectations? 35:30 What should production people focus on impr...


What Conferences Should You Consider in 2025? [Jerod Togger]
#154
01/20/2025

How do you pick the perfect conference to further your skills and networking?


We run through the list of conferences to consider in 2025, the various reasons to go and end on some tips to pitch for budget to attend.


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 Toby causing chaos at SALT and the Amplio Golf Tournament 10:45 How did Jerod get into church production ministry? 12:24 Planning and Budgeting for Conferences18:30 NAB and InfoComm conference 29:37 Maximizing Conference Benefits for Church Techs27:30 What will you takeaway from a church production conference?32:00 How do you get invi...


Elevating Without Imitating [Elevation Church's Shep]
#153
01/13/2025

How do you draw inspiration from other churches without also bringing expectations to make your church service be just like theirs?


Stephen Sheppard is the Broadcast Engineer for Elevation Church and he joins us this week to discuss gear, live streams and the importance of staying true to your church's vision.

In this episode you'll hear: 

0:30 Toby’s new favorite church production celebrity 3:30 Shep joins the podcast! 14:30 How did you get involved in church production? 17:40 Who does Shep look to for inspiration? 20:45 How are you making the Elevation Livestream right now? 26:30 What adv...


Navigating Career Transitions in Church Production [Slingshot Group]
#152
01/06/2025

What factors should you consider when deciding whether to stay or leave a church tech job?

Slingshot helps churches with their talent searches. They joined us on the podcast to give their advice on the nuances of staying or leaving a church production job and the factors influencing that decision.

We discuss self-awareness, effective resume building, hiring dynamics, and important salary negotiations, ultimately encouraging listeners to focus on personal growth and meaningful ministry.

In this episode you'll hear: 

0:00 Two Idiots Make a Podcast13:17 Navigating Career Transitions and Interviews17:45 How do y...


Will AI Change Church Production? [Kenny Jahng]
#151
12/30/2024

How will AI change church production jobs?


Kenny Jahng joins us to discuss how AI will help, change and shape church production.


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 Podcast editing failure & Toby cheats on Blake3:00 Kenny Jahng joins us from SALT Conference 8:30 How can AI help church production people do work easier? 16:30 What church production jobs will AI replace? 18:30 Will AI impact every church tech job? 26:25 Tech Takeaway: How to introduce AI to your Tech Team 29:16 Church Tech Confessional: I started delaying the worship leader click track 

Whether you're looking for you...


Church Techs Confess [2024 Recap, Reactions & Winners]
#150
12/23/2024

What were the best Church Tech Confessionals in 2024? 


Listen to all of 2024's Church Tech Confessionals in a single episode and then hang with us as we give our reactions and crown a winner for the best Church Tech Confessional of the 2024 year. 


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 Blake confesses: Where is the camera card? 4:50 Blake confesses: Vehicular Misplacement 16:50 2024’s Church Tech Confessionals 33:15 What were our hot takes from the Church Tech Confessionals?53:15 What was the top Church Tech Confessional of 2024? 56:30 Chris Tomlin Tour Prank 


Whether you're loo...


45 Years of Production Wisdom [Sweetwater's Kent Morris]
#149
12/16/2024

What church production history and wisdom do you pick up when you've been in the game for 45 years? 


Kent Morris joins the ChurchGear podcast this week to discuss the changes he has seen over the years, the lessons he has picked up along the way and he ends on some very encouraging words for those currently in the tech trenches. 


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 Hanging out at Church of the Highlands 5:10 Kent Morris of Sweetwater joins us!16:45 How did Kent get into church production? 20:00 What was church production like 45 years...


Good & Bad Reasons to Change Jobs [Dennis Choy]
#148
12/09/2024

How do you know when it is time to change churches and take a new church production job?


Dennis Choy joins us this week to discuss his new job and the process he went through to make the decision. If you're looking for real life insight into the good and bad reasons to change church production jobs, this is your episode. 


In this episode you'll hear:

1:00 Toby doesn’t know who Pentatonix is?5:00 Dennis Choy joins us!11:30 Dennis’s background in church production 15:45 Good and bad reasons to change church tech j...


Being the Church Post Hurricane Helene [Biltmore Church's Tyler Flores]
#147
12/02/2024

How do you lead your production team after a devastating hurricane hits?


Tyler Flores is the Central Production Minister of Biltmore Church, and he joins the podcast to discuss how the church is helping the community in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene.



In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 Funny observations of celebrity golf tournaments 5:30 Tyler Flores, the Central Production Minister of Biltmore Church, joins! 14:00 How did Tyler become the Central Production Minister of Biltmore Church? 16:40 How did Hurricane Helene impact Biltmore Church? 21:15 How did Biltmore Church pivot to help the commu...


Lee Fields on Church Hurt
#146
11/25/2024

How do you recover from Church Hurt?  


Lee Fields joins us this week to discuss Church Hurt. We get into his journey to recover and the reflections he has had now that some time and counseling have happened. 


In this episode you'll hear:

1:00 Speculating about the Mike Tyson & Jake Paul fight3:15 Lee Fields joins 8:00 Lee’s UFC fight story 10:00 What goes into pulling off production for a UFC fight?13:00 Five Truths and a Lie with Lee Fields 24:00 What's it like Mixing for Hillsong United? 25:00 Is every worship band the same right now? 32:30 How do yo...


Preparing for Christmas [Mannahouse Church's Peter Zatsepin]
#145
11/18/2024

What are Christmas services like in Portland, Oregon?


Peter Zatsepin is a Production Technician at Mannahouse Church and he joins us this week to discuss preparing for Christmas.


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 How much does the weather impact your mood? 4:30 Peter Zatsepin joins us from Mannahouse Church!14:00 How did you get into church production?18:30 What's it like doing church in Portland Oregon?21:50 What is it like prepping Christmas services for Mannahouse church? 24:15 How do you maintain your health during the Christmas Service Season? 27:00 How do you communicate the upcoming chur...


Becoming a System Integrator on the Fly [Dream City Church's Eric Mooney]
#144
11/11/2024

Your church needs you as their church tech to be their integrator. Now what?


Eric Mooney is the Audio Director at Dream City Church and he joins us to tell us his journey of going from youth pastor, to audio director, to integration work for his church. 


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 Toby meeting Blake for the first time3:45 Eric Mooney joins us! 17:00 Eric’s church production background 23:30 Becoming a system integrator on the fly 35:00 Learning to lead in church production 38:00 Learning to become a church tech quickly 43:15 Church Tech Disaster...


Battle Royale: Audio Consoles [Jeff Sandstrom & Drew Hester]
#143
11/04/2024

What happens when you pit two audio experts against one another in a mixing Battle Royale conversation? 

Drew Hester and Jeff Sandstrom are too polite to fully fight it out in a Battle Royale, but they both join us for our first "fight it out" episode in the church production space. Join us for takes on what matters most in audio, the best consoles for the best situations and the best audio disaster stories. 


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 People telling Toby to turn it down 4:00 How to know when it’s too...


3 Months to Live Changes Your Mix [Armando Fullwood]
#142
10/28/2024

How do you respond when you are given 3 months to live?


Armando Fullwood joins us this week to tell us what his health journey taught him about faith, life and mixing.


In this episode you'll hear:

1:00 Mixing behind glass windows 4:45 Armando Fullwood joins us!11:00 How did you get into live production?15:00 What is happening in live production outside of church?19:30 How can you prevent burnout? 22:20 What a health crisis taught Armando about Mixing and Life 27:30 How to stay healthy as you mix 38:00 Disaster story: The console just blew up 41:30 Tech Takea...


Running FOH for Miranda Lambert [Todd Wines]
#141
10/21/2024

What's it like running audio for a Vegas residency?


Todd joins the pod to tell us about running sound for Miranda Lambert in Vegas, a disaster story and we wrap with a church tech confessional.


In this episode you'll hear:

1:00 Touring Willow Creek Church5:00 Todd Wines joins us 16:00 How did Todd get into church production? 22:00 Running FOH for Miranda Lambert in Vegas 29:30 Handling a bad source 36:00 Giving advice to your younger self 40:00 Disaster story 46:40 Tech Takeaway 49:40 Church Tech Confessional 



Resources for your Church Tech Ministry

Does y...


FOH For All the Legends [Doug Kimball]
#140
10/14/2024

How do you end up mixing for legendary artists like Jay Z and Marilyn Manson?


Doug Kimball got into the mixing game early via editorials and he stops by the podcast this week to give us the lessons he learned along the way. We wrap with some wild disaster stories and a church tech confessional that'll have you laughing and cringing. 


In this episode you'll hear:

1:00 Meeting celebrities 4:45 Doug Kimball joins us!11:15 How did Doug get into production? 13:15 Mixing for Jay Z 16:00 How did Doug become the mixer for A leve...


Unconventional Service Times [Christ's Church of the Valley's Blair Drake]
#139
10/07/2024

How do you build a volunteer team when your main service is Saturday night?


Blair drops by to discuss their unusual service times, recruiting volunteers and wraps with multiple disaster stories.


In this episode you'll hear:

1:00 What do you do when your production gear gets stolen? 4:50 Blair Drake joins us! 13:00 How did Blair get started in church production? 16:15 How do they pull off their weekly services with their volunteers? 19:30 Where are you recruiting volunteers? 26:00 What big events do you do? 30:30 Disaster stories40:45 Church Tech Confessional 



Resources for you...


Volume Complaints & Touring Stories [Newsboys's John O' Neal]
#138
09/30/2024

What do you learn touring in production for over two decades?  


John's been running FOH for Newsboys for over two decades and he joins us this week to discuss his time with them, being out on the road, and how to handle volume complaints intellectually or hilariously. 


In this episode you'll hear:

1:00 Accents, Blake’s tech fail, and Charles Manson 5:30 John O' Neal joins us! 12:00 Near Death production story 18:30 How do you get into church production? 26:45 What gets you kicked off a tour bus? 31:00 What gear is John running for Newsboys ...


Getting Volunteers Started Well [Willow Hodge of Hope Fellowship Church]
#137
09/23/2024

How do you take an interested, inexperienced volunteer and turn them into a tech genius?


Willow Hodge is the Video Director at Hope Fellowship Church and she joins to give us a masterclass on training new volunteers. 


In this episode you'll hear: 

1:00 ChurchGear Fantasy League is here! 3:50 Willow Hodge joins us! 10:20 How did you get your start in church production? 15:20 How do you recruit and develop church production volunteers? 22:40 Volunteers feeling growing pains26:45 Should church production people have pastor in their title? 31:10 What’s it like being a woman in productio...