Andrew and Jerry Save The World!
In a world gone mad, only rationality and common sense can save it! Join seasoned policy professionals and long-time radio hosts Andrew Langer and Jerry Rogers as they bring in-depth discussion and real solutions to the world's most-pressing problems. Andrew and Jerry have decades of experience in both politics and public policy--Jerry is the editor of several sites in the Real Clear family of websites, and Andrew is president of the Institute for Liberty. Every week, they'll take the issues that are ripped from the headlines, break them down, get advice from experts in the field, and give you their...
Andrew and Jerry Say Thank You For Your Attention To This Matter!

In Episode 97 of Andrew and Jerry Save The World, Andrew Langer and Jerry Rogers take on the spiraling irrationality of our political and media culture with their trademark clarity and wit. The episode kicks off with a light-hearted take on Trump's now-iconic sign-off, “Thank you for your attention to this matter,” before diving deep into serious issues—from foreign policy to domestic dysfunction.
Andrew and Jerry analyze Trump’s recent strike on Iran, the media’s apocalyptic overreaction, and the bizarre claim that America is living under tyranny. They call out the double standards of the legacy media and...
Bonus Episode 12: Andrew at FreedomFest and Jerry Joins The Steve Gruber Show

In this special bonus edition of Andrew and Jerry Save the World, the hosts share two thought-provoking segments from their recent solo appearances on major platforms.
First, Andrew Langer brings you his full presentation from FreedomFest 2025, where he explores the dangers of regulatory overreach in health care, the need for innovation-driven policy, and the urgent necessity of expanding the supply of physicians in America. He addresses everything from government interference in dialysis care to the threat of drug price controls and the economic consequences of regulatory bloat—calling for a principled, free-market approach to both health care an...
Bonus Episode 11: Andrew and Jerry Talk Health Care Policy and Kilmar Abrego Garcia

In this bonus edition of Andrew and Jerry Save the World, Andrew kicks things off with a recent radio interview featuring co-host Jerry Rogers. The two dive into key healthcare and policy issues, including why tariffs on pharmaceuticals won’t raise prices in the short term, the importance of fixing the "pill penalty" embedded in the Inflation Reduction Act, and how Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs) continue to inflate drug costs. They also take on the growing push from some conservatives to restrict SNAP benefits in the name of nutrition—warning that it’s a slippery slope toward surveillance and govern...
Andrew Interviews Doug Holtz-Eakin from the American Action Forum!

In this episode, Andrew Langer sits down with economist and American Action Forum President Doug Holtz-Eakin for a wide-ranging conversation on recent economic policy developments and their potential consequences. Holtz-Eakin expresses skepticism over the Biden Administration’s latest trade and tariff policies—what some dubbed “Liberation Day”—arguing they amount to a $500–$600 billion tax increase with damaging implications for economic growth, inflation, and America’s farming sector.
The discussion pivots to regulatory policy, highlighting the staggering $1.8 trillion in regulatory costs added under President Biden, contrasted with the deregulatory success of the first Trump administration. Holtz-Eakin cautions against the current se...
Andrew and Jerry Have a Just Us League Celebration!

With Andrew filling in for a nationally-syndicated radio show and Jerry joining him for a couple of segments, they have time for an impromptu episode!
They dive into the media-driven narrative surrounding mental health, political hysteria, and Donald Trump. Kicking off with Andrew’s recent appearance on Square Off, the duo deconstructs how legacy media’s alarmism is fueling anxiety and depression across America—not Trump himself.
They unpack the latest legal developments in the case of an illegal immigrant living in Maryland being deported to El Salvidor, reigniting the debate over immigration, due process, and the...
Andrew and Jerry Offer A Moment of Clarity!

In this lively episode, Andrew and Jerry navigate the turbulent waters of America's trade policy and economic rhetoric. With markets fluctuating and political discourse at fever pitch, they dive into the confusion surrounding tariffs, trade wars, and the misinformation plaguing both Wall Street and Main Street. Jerry, editor at Real Clear Policy and Real Clear Health, reveals his trusted sources for cutting through political noise, emphasizing the importance of independent voices emerging on platforms like Substack.
They tackle the contentious legacy of Reagan-era trade policies, unravel the complexity behind Trump's current economic moves, and discuss why free...
Bonus Episode: Andrew and Jerry and the Health Care Panel at CPAC 2025

Live from CPAC 2025, Andrew and Jerry Save The World brings you an exclusive panel discussion featuring some of the sharpest minds in economic policy! Moderated by AJSTW co-host Jerry Rogers, this lively conversation includes economist Steve Moore (Unleash Prosperity), Phil Kerpen (American Commitment), and Andrew Langer (Committee to Unleash Prosperity).
The panel tackles the biggest challenges in American health care and economic policy, from the dangers of price controls on prescription drugs to the impact of government overreach on medical innovation. Why is the rest of the world freeloading on American pharmaceutical breakthroughs? How can we fix...
Andrew and Jerry CPAC 2025 Special Edition

In this special Andrew and Jerry Save the World episode, recorded live from CPAC 2025, Andrew Langer and Jerry Rogers bring you an inside look at the conservative movement’s biggest gathering. Broadcasting from the Star Lounge, they discuss key themes from CPAC, including healthcare policy, regulatory overreach, and the future of conservatism.
Andrew shares insights from his CPAC panels, covering topics like the FDA’s role in public health, the push for Tax Cuts 2.0, and the hidden costs of overregulation. Jerry reflects on the state of conservative politics, CPAC’s role as a hub for political discourse, and th...
Andrew and Jerry Turn Page on Joe Biden!

On the eve of Donald Trump's second inauguration, Andrew Langer and Jerry Rogers tackle the end of Joe Biden's presidency and explore the political, cultural, and societal challenges left in its wake. The duo examines Biden's farewell address, criticizing its lack of optimism and focus on gaslighting narratives rather than fostering hope for the future. They contrast this with previous presidential transitions, offering their unique perspective on political decorum, demagoguery, and the implications for democracy.
Andrew and Jerry dive deep into the broader political landscape, discussing how progressive policies have shaped the last four years, from climate...
Andrew and Jerry Save Hope!

In Episode 91 of Andrew and Jerry Save the World, Andrew Langer and Jerry Rogers tackle the week's most pressing issues with their signature blend of insight and humor. The duo dives deep into cultural and political debates, starting with the oral arguments in a pivotal Supreme Court case on gender-related medical procedures for minors. They dissect the implications of progressive overreach in institutions such as public schools, corporate boardrooms, and media, highlighting how these dynamics influence society at large.
From there, they examine the broader cultural battles shaping America, discussing the erosion of societal norms, the weaponization...
Andrew and Jerry Give Thanks. An AJSTW Thanksgiving Special!

In this special Thanksgiving episode, Andrew Langer and Jerry Rogers take a heartfelt look back at the people and moments they're grateful for, while reflecting on pressing topics of the day. The episode begins with a touching tribute to Fred Smith, a towering figure in the freedom movement, whose legacy is celebrated through humorous and poignant anecdotes. From Fred's visionary work at the Competitive Enterprise Institute to his larger-than-life personality, Andrew and Jerry recount the stories that made him unforgettable.
The conversation then shifts to current events, including Kamala Harris's recent controversial statements and the ongoing challenges...
Andrew and Jerry Save Transition (No, not THAT Kind of Transition!)!

In this dynamic episode, Andrew Langer and Jerry Rogers offer an extra helping of AJSTW this week, tackling a wide range of critical issues shaping the current political and societal landscape. Here are the key highlights:
The Trump Transition: Andrew and Jerry dissect the unique nature of Donald Trump's current transition strategy, focusing on high-profile appointments like Pam Bondi and the controversial departure of Matt Gaetz. They explore the implications for innovation in governance and the battle against the "deep state."Biden Administration Critiques: The duo delves into policy decisions by the Biden administration, highlighting perceived missteps in...Andrew and Jerry Celebrate Free Speech with Special Guest Patrick Maines!

Free Speech Week was just before the election, but Andrew and Jerry engage in a belated celebration. Joined by Patrick Maines, former President and CEO of the Media Institute, they break down the importance of rights to free speech, the erosion of those rights over time, and the challenges to free speech in 2024 and beyond. They talk about Patrick's career, the work of the Media Institute, and those who are championing free speech currently.
After Patrick leaves, Andrew and Jerry talk a little more about the subject, and then turn to current events - talking about the no...
Andrew and Jerry Are Back and Better Than Ever - An AJSTW Post-Election 2024 Special!

It's been a bit, and Andrew and Jerry are sorry, folks. Now that Andrew's not doing 5-day a week radio, we'll be better at posting regular episodes. WE PROMISE!
But what better time than this week to come back with ALL NEW SHOWS??!! The results are finally in, and it's a TRIFECTA! Trump wins the presidency (handily), the GOP takes control of the Senate and maintains control of the House. Just what DOES this mean for the electorate, everyday Americans, and the world at large? Where do things stand with the transition... and have things finally calmed down...
An Andrew and Jerry Remix: Andrew Interviews Phil Kerpen from EndTheRaid(dot)Org!

With Jerry on vacation and Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Maryland Governor Wes Moore doing an event in Maryland, Andrew sat down with Phil Kerpen from American Commitment, Commitment to Seniors, Unleash Prosperity, and the project, EndTheRaid.org! POTUS, VPOTUS, and their enabler, Wes Moore, were in Maryland to nominally "celebrate" the second anniverary of the ironically-named "Inflation Reduction Act". But in reality, the event was all about their gloating over so-called price "negotiations" for 10 major drugs.
In this conversation, Andrew and Phil talk about why this wasn't a "negotitation", but really a demonstration of force by a...
Andrew and Jerry Say There is No DEI in DEI!

Trump calls Kamala out for her seemingly-shifting heritage, but he's only echoing the sentiments of CNN and Mindy Kaling. What really happened at the National Association of Black Journalists' annual meeting? Did Trump have a melt down? And when is Kamala Harris going to actually do an interview with a reporter as she runs for President? Andrew and Jerry talk about the choice of JD Vance on the Trump ticket, and weigh the Democrats' potential VP choice. Plus, they go through the battleground state map to give their thoughts on the state of the race - given what Andrew and...
An Andrew and Jerry Remix: We Each Interview Susan Crabtree from Real Clear Policy!

With the Director of the Secret Service testifying (badly) before Congress today, Andrew and Jerry decided to combine their parallel interviews with Susan Crabtree, a reporter for Real Clear Politics who covers the White House, but for whom the US Secret Service has long been a "beat". Andrew interviewed her on Friday, July 19, fresh off of the Republican National Convention, while Jerry interviewed her on Sunday, July 21st. They cover what we've now learned about the assassination attempt on President Trump, the failures of the Secret Service that day, and (as it is readily becoming clear) the lies that Se...
Andrew and Jerry Roar Like Lions!

We're well-past the debate, and with an attempt on his life on Saturday and the announcement of a Vice-Presidential candidate pick on Monday with the RNC beginning in Milwaukee, Andrew and Jerry are back and ready to break it all down. The violent rhetoric continues, and they explore the history of how rhetoric leads to action. One side believes that violence is a form of speech (and that speech is a form of violence)--and one side already attempted to breach the Secret Service protection of President Trump at the White House (yet nobody is talking about it!). With the...
Andrew and Jerry and The Great American Rope-a-Dope!

Hunter Biden is convicted of a series of felonies and the major media uses this as an opportunity to prop up the Bidens. But this is but one example of the rope-a-dope being played against the American people. Jerry tells a story about the collapse of the rule of law visiting upon his family in a very personal way. This leads into a discussion of the two-tiered system of justice in America and the weaponization of the law for politics, and how the flowering of lawfare today had its seeds planted during the Obama years: Operation Choke Point, the har...
Andrew and Jerry Say The Fix Is In! Welcome to the AJSTW Remix!

On this week we kick off what we're calling an "AJSTW Remix" - no, it's NOT a "best of" podcast... this is material Jerry and I have done elsewhere, but for the majority of you, it's brand spanking new! The remix starts with Jerry giving his thoughts about the verdict in the Trump trial, and just what this might mean for the election. What are his concerns... and what ought the Republicans be doing to push back against Biden. Then, Andrew starts off giving an update on that bizarre story about the National Park Service ordering the removal of the...
Bonus Episode: Jerry Sits Down with Elaine Parker from JCF/JCN, Plus: Andrew's Thoughts

With Andrew & Jerry's schedules gone crazy, they do a split show this week. With the arguments in the NYC Trump trial coming to a close, Andrew offers his thoughts about where things seem to be going and what's gone awry with ths prosecution. Then, Jerry sits down with Elaine Parker, President of the Job Creators Foundation and Communications Director for the Job Creators Network. They talk about the challenges facing America's small businesses and entrepreneurs, and how Bidenomics is crippling the American economy!
Bonus Episode: Jerry Sits Down with David Williams

It's a special bonus episode! Jerry sits down with our old friend, David Williams, the President of the Taxpayers Protection Alliance! They talk about the economic landscape and Biden unsurprisingly reneging on his promise not to tax middle class Americans.
Andrew and Jerry Say May Day! May Day!

Justin Timberlake said it best, "It's gotta be May!"
It's the first of May, and not only is May Day a traditional communist "holiday", but it's also a signal of someone or some thing in distress. Like America.
Andrew and Jerry break down what's going on on America's college campuses, talking about the origins of these crises, who is behind them in terms of their funding and coordination, and just what the future holds. How the efforts to blame Trump for these crises ultimately underscore the role that Never Trumpers and those with Trump Derangement S...
Andrew and Jerry's Day of Visibility!

Easter Sunday also happened to coincide with the National Transgender Day of Visibility, and Andrew and Jerry noodle through how that happened to happen. With the myriad months, weeks and days dedicated to the LGBTQIA+ agenda, what does this mean for the world at large from both a theological and civil society perspective. What happens when society abandons objective truth? Jerry talks about how this pertrains to some corporate anti-harassment training he's being required to do, and just what it means when perspectives change over time. Andrew talks about how this fits into Orwell's warnings in "1984", and then the issu...
Andrew and Jerry Save the 2024 State of the Union!

The State of the Union is Angry (or IS IT?)! Andrew and Jerry break down last week's bizarre and largely unprecedented State of the Union address. What does it say about Biden's mental state? They talk about the President's departure from SOTU norms by focusing on Ukraine at the top of the speech, then saying there's a crisis in democracy, and then spending a huge chunk of the speech demonizing his opponents. They draw in the breaking news regarding revelations about whether or not Trump advised that National Guard troops be brought to DC in advance of J6, and the...
Bonus Episode: Andrew's Solo Interviews at CPAC Day 2!

With Jerry delayed a bit, Andrew sat down to do a couple of solo interviews for the podcast. He's joined by former Congressman Doug Collins (R-GA) and Jon Schweppe from the American Principles Project! Rep. Collins talks about the war on intellectual property with the Biden Administration's attempt to seize patents as a backdoor way of implementing price controls on drugs, as well as the problem of pharmaceutical benefits managers, otherwise known as PBMs. John talks about the insidious nature of early exposure of children to harmful material online and how best to protect them!
Andrew and Jerry at CPAC 2024 Day 2!

It's Day 2 of CPAC, and Jerry is coming in HOT! Tales of altercations narrowly avoided, and just how one should navigate crowds. We're joined by singer/songwriter Hadas Levy, who follows up on our conversation with the creative forces behind Cabrini with a discussion of how changing the culture can change societal narratives. Mary Walter joins again, and we get her thoughts on the top issues facing her (and America) today. Then "Puppet Carlson" joins us... and you're going to want to hear Andrew discuss how Jerry strenuously avoided making eye contact with the puppet.
Andrew and Jerry at CPAC 2024 Day 1!

It's that most-wonderful time of the year! CPAC 2024 is upon us! Jerry is late, so Andrew has to handle some of the interview duties. He's joined by Horace Cooper from the National Center for Public Policy Research's Project 21. Then he sits down with former Trump White House Deputy Communications Director Roma Daravi, when Jerry arrives. Together they have a chat with Jordan Harmon and Leo Severino from Angel Studios. They talk about the company's new film, "Cabrini", being screened at CPAC and opening nationwide on March 8! Then podcast and radio host extraorinaire, Mary Walter, comes and panels with them!
An AJSTW Special: Andrew and Jerry Sit Down with NC GOP Chair Michael Whatley!

There's breaking news happening! It's being reported that Ronna Romney McDaniel is stepping down as Chair of the Republican National Committee. Who is going to replace her? Major media outlets are reporting that Chairman of the North Carolina GOP, Michael Whatley, is going to step in as Chairman of the RNC. As it happens, Andrew has known Michael Whatley for more than two decades, and last year, Andrew and Jerry sat down with him at CPAC 2023. We've edited that show to pull out the interview with Michael Whatley, and we're presenting it as a bonus episode for you. We talk...
Andrew and Jerry and Their Winter of Discontent!

New year, new show! It's been a crazy first few weeks of 2024, and between work and weather, it's been tough to get together to do a show. Andrew and Jerry break down the wet start to 2024, and talk about the weather in the context of both the climate change and energy debates. They talk about the public policy problem of offering up so-called "solutions" that don't actually address problems (if they don't make them worse), and this dovetails into DEI policies, issues of race, and the demand in some corners for reparations--and, drawing a line between the call for rep...
Andrew and Jerry On Our Fragile Democracy!

It's the last AJSTW before the end of the year, and 2023's most-important story broke this week: 4 members of the Colorado Supreme Court ruled Donald Trump ineligible for the presidential primary ballot, and not only ordered his name removed from it, but also took the extraordinary step of ruling that any write-in votes cast for Trump would be tossed out. Obviously, Jerry and Andrew are deeply troubled by this, but there are so many questions. Did the CO Supreme Court do this KNOWING that their decision would be overturned, and if so, why? Why are people cheerleading this decision, why...
Andrew and Jerry Pull The Ol' Switcheroo!

Andrew and Jerry are LIVE from the studios at the Conservative Partnership Campus! Jerry has Seinfeldian tales of parking his car, and this seems apt given the surreality of our political climate. They revisit this week's debate, and question the purpose for which it serves. They look at the 2024 presidential landscape, and wonder whether we will even have an election result this time next year. Will the election ultimately be decided by the House of Representatives--and if it is up to Congress to decide, how do Democrats react? They've spent nearly three years hounding those who even tangentially participated in t...
Andrew and Jerry and the 12 Pains of Christmas!

The Christmas season is upon us, but the craziness doesn't abate. Andrew and Jerry start with the story of a city council meeting in Oakland, CA and the hatred and misinformation that ensued. They explore the history of anti-semitism on the left, and the relationship between the evolution of DEI and the deepening of anti-semitic hate within the progressive movement.
They then talk about the recent piece by a Maryland political science professor about polling and the economy--what does she miss in terms of Bidenomics and the Biden agenda. This leads into a discussion of the issues...
Andrew and Jerry Start The Countdown to Election Day 2024

We are exactly one year out from the 2024 presidential elections, and Andrew & Jerry break it all down for you. The third GOP Candidates debate was last night, and we talk about who won, who lost, and whether or not things were at all better with only five candidates on the stage. What happens when you wait until after the debate to watch highlights? Do you come away with a different impression once the emotions of the moment give away? Should a candidate who doesn't come to a debate allowed to proceed on a ballot?
Then they talk abo...
Andrew and Jerry Talk About Hamas, Hospitals, and Holy War!

In the two weeks since our last Episode, the planet has edged closer to another World War, with Hamas attacking Israel and the Middle East coming close to exploding as a result. Andrew and Jerry sit down to dispel myths about the history of the conflict between Israel and the so-called "Palestinians" (and they explain why they refer to "Palestinians as "so-called" and put "Palestinians" in quotes). They also explore why anti-zionism really IS just a thin veil over old-fashioned anti-semitism, and how this anti-semitism infects so many aspects of society - not just in the Unites States but...
Andrew and Jerry Say Shut the Gaetz and Don't Pull The Alarm!

Speaker McCarthy is OUT, and Andrew and Jerry have a deep discussion as to why. Is there really chaos in Congress--and if there is, is there anything new about it? What kind of Speaker was McCarthy? What did he accomplish, if anything? What did Matt Gaetz and the 7 Republicans who joined him accomplish, if anything? They discuss the hypocrisies in all this, and whether chaos is an essential element of Democracy. What does this all mean for electoral politics down the road (and did this have anything to do with the averting of the shut down that led to McCar...
Andrew and Jerry Talk Guns, Grime & Gavin Newsom!

The second GOP debate is upon us, and Donald Trump will be absent again. Jerry lays out the case as to why he thinks this should disqualify Trump from the Primary ballot, and Andrew asks Jerry whether this changes his view of Rank Choice Voting. Trump is going to speak to the UAW instead, and Andrew & Jerry debate the merits of this and whether Trump will fumble the opportunity by mangling his message. What happens to the Republic if Trump loses to Biden... or, alternatively, what happens to the Republic if Trump wins a second term? Why are the Dem...
Andrew and Jerry Finally Fire Fauci!

Are mask mandates coming back? Andrew and Jerry talk about the soft re-introduction of Covid19 mask protocols and Anthony Fauci's appearance on CNN over the weekend. What is America's appetite for new mandates or lockdowns--and why are masks a form of sacrament to the left? There's a word for the intersection of corporate and state power, which is exactly why, despite a lower tolerance for mandates, we'll see a huge percentage of the population adhere. The Proud Boys have been sentenced, how does this all play into the politicization of law enforcement and what does this mean for the futu...
Andrew and Jerry Knew You Were Going To Ask That Question!

Apologies in advance for Andrew's bad audio.
President Biden brushes off a legitimate question from a reporter about the tens of millions of dollars paid by foreign governments to the Biden family, and Andrew and Jerry discuss the significance of this revelation. Then, we're two weeks shy of the first Republican presidential debate, and Andrew is unhappy with everyone. Andrew and Jerry examine the slate of GOP candidates for President, and talk about what they want in a nominee. Is it asking too much for a President or Presidential candidate to be a "deep thinker"? Was Joe Bi...
Andrew and Jerry Can't Stand This Indictment!

Just a day after Hunter Biden's longtime business associate, Devin Archer, gave explosive and incredibly illuminating testimony to Congress, America's attention was turned away from possible Biden family corruption to a new set of indictments against former President Trump--making the weaponization and politicization of the nation's justice system abundantly clear. Andrew and Jerry talk about the juxtaposition of the 2 events, the clear criticisms of the indictment, and how this all plays into the greater thread: last week's shenanigans in the Hunter Biden plea deal, the attempt to snooker the judge in the Hunter Biden case and the collapse of t...