The Holistic Herbalism Podcast
Practical herbalism from practicing herbalists. Conversations, botanical deep-dives, Q&A with clinical herbalists Katja Swift & Ryn Midura of CommonWealth Holistic Herbalism.
Our Model for Clinical Herbalism Mentorship
Weâve been running a clinical herbalism mentorship program of one kind or another for more than fifteen years. We have some thoughts! Todayâs episode is all about our model for an herbal mentorship, what we think it needs to include, and how itâs structured to benefit our students and clients most fully.
For context, we do have prerequisites to join mentorship â you need to have your herbal know-how dialed in before you can join! Completing our Family Herbalist and Community Herbalist programs, and performing well on the exams, is the baseline. Our mentorship students are also...
Herbal Care Kits for Fall, for All!
If you havenât made herbal cold/flu/COVID care kits for your household yet, now is the time! Herbal care kits are one of our very favorite things. Hereâs the premise: when youâre sick, itâs hard to think, no matter how good an herbalist you are. So get the stuff youâre going to need ready ahead of time! Itâs like taking care of your future self.
Plus, itâs likely that youâre the herbalist in your household â so youâre going to need to take care of everyone else too! But life doesnât sto...
Herbalists' Views on the Top-Selling Herbs (Part 9): Aloe & Flax + New Market Data!
This week we continue our investigation into the best-selling herbal supplements in the US. First, an update: the 2024 Herbal Market Report data is here!
The overall picture is very similar to the 2023 data, with most items on the lists simply changing position. The overall market had a 5.4% increase, topping out above $13.2 billion for the highest annual sales on record. Direct-to-consumer commerce â via websites like Amazon, for instance â continues to be the largest fraction of sales.
In the mainstream list, the biggest story is the increase for âmushrooms (other)â, which reached #26 despite not appearing at all in prior...
Aging Is OK, Don't Freak Out
When Ryn first met Katja, she was in the habit of inflating her age a bit. Why? Because as an herbalist â at that time â it was preferable to present as older, even as an âelderâ, if possible. Times have changed, and now âinfluencerbalistsâ dominate the social media worldâs public face, for herbalism as for so many things. Staying young forever looks almost plausible, when itâs shown through short-form videos on a tiny screenâŠ
Itâs not, though. Weâll all age, and that will mean some things donât work as well as they used to, donât feel as good a...
Herbalists' Views on the Top-Selling Herbs (Part 8): Milk Thistle & Black Cohosh
Herbs #22 and 23 on the top-selling herbs list for 2023 were milk thistle and black cohosh.
Today we continue our series on commercially popular herbs, and share our views as herbalists on the actions, benefits, and applications of these.
Milk thistle is widely known as an excellent herb for the liver, and this is a case where the common wisdom is correct. Itâs one of the safest herbs out there, and fortunately, it is also widely available and inexpensive. Hepatoprotective and even able to regenerate damaged liver tissue, it is at the same time a very ge...
Support the Resistance - An Herbalism Clinical Skill
When youâre using your herbal skills to help others â whether youâre doing that as a Clinical Herbalist in private practice, volunteering in your community, or even just caring for your own family â it becomes obvious pretty fast that your herbal knowledge is only part of the skillset you need.
You also need to creatively adapt what you know, so that it will actually work in that personâs life. Since every body is different, different strategies work for different people. Holistic herbalists are never trying to present âone right wayâ that everyone has to adhere to.
Whic...
Herbalists' Views on the Top-Selling Herbs (Part 7): Tribulus, Pycnogenol, Garlic
On the top-selling herbs list for 2023 (the most recent data), the herbs in places #19-21 were Tribulus terrestris, Pycnogenol (an extract of Pinus pinaster), and garlic. Today we continue our series on commercially popular herbs, and share our views as herbalists on the actions, benefits, and applications of these ones.
The pine extract is an interesting item, given that itâs not an entry for the herb itself but rather for a specific proprietary extract from one species. Itâs true that this extract has been well-studied and shown to exert good effects, but itâs also true t...
Mutual Aid Startup Guide
Mutual aid projects are a natural place for herbalists to gravitate, and setting one up in your community is easier than you think! Our mutual aid startup guide is a free resource we offer you to help with this. You can download it right here:
Mutual Aid Startup Guide
In todayâs episode we want to emphasize two key things about this: First, it doesnât have to be an enormous undertaking. You can start with a small circle of friends, and build from there. The keys are consistency and continuity of communication.
Seco...
Thinking Through Herb-Drug Interactions
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Sussing out herb-drug interactions is complicated! In this episode we take the example of Celexa + skullcap, and demonstrate the process of investigation weâd use to sort out whether a proposed risk is real.
We start with the Botanical Safety Handbook, because it has certain features which make it significantly better than other manuals or databases. These include the varied relevant experience and skills of th...
Herbalists' Views on the Top-Selling Herbs (Part 6): Saw Palmetto, Cinnamon, Echinacea
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On the top-selling herbs list for 2023 (the most recent data), the herbs in places #16-18 were saw palmetto, cinnamon, and echinacea. In todayâs installment of our best-sellers series, we share our views as herbalists on the actions, benefits, and applications of these herbs. All three are long-term residents on the market reportâs top 40 chart, and thereâs no reason to expect that to cha...
Bandaging Basics & Mummy Parties
Bandaids are undeniably handy, and there are plenty of situations where they do the job that needs doing. But there are also lots of times when a wound is too big, too irregular, or too sensitive for a bandaid to be the best choice. Thatâs where bespoke bandaging comes into play! You can learn bandaging basics really quickly â yes, even through podcast audio â and thatâs what todayâs episode is all about.
Bandages are extremely versatile and customizable â even without getting a dozen different types of gauze and pads. Truly, a box of 2âł and 4âł roller gauze, plus some...
Bug-Out Bags & Stay-In Stashes, The Herbalist's Way
When putting together a bug-out bag in case of emergencies, donât forget your herbs! Just like a first aid kit, a go bag is best when you construct it according to your specific needs, and the needs of people youâll be with. This isnât a âone size fits allâ situation!
The same goes for circumstances when you need to shelter in place. A âstay-in stashâ is just a go-bag without the go. Itâs an orderly, intentional accumulation of all the things youâll need if the power goes out for a week, or you canât leave yo...
Herbal First Aid Kit Maintenance
Just like checking your stock of remedies in the apothecary, herbal first aid kit maintenance is one of those things you need to carve out time for â at least once a year! Itâs June, which is the kick-off to summer adventure and here on the east coast, also hurricane season. In other regions, wildfire season is already started, and even without a disaster, summer means more bumps & bruises â so itâs the perfect time for us to be focusing on first aid and updating your kit.
Your kit might need updates if your health needs change, or if di...
Disaster-Proofing Herbal Business Part 2: Offerings & Audience
This is the second half of the Disaster-Proofing your Herbal Business theme.
Economic uncertainty is part of business â but thereâs so much you can do to make sure your business stays strong throughout the ups and downs.
In the previous episode, we covered the first three steps in the work of diversifying your revenue streams and your product/service offerings to make sure that your herbal business keeps growing!
In this episode, weâre talking about expanding both your offerings and your target audience so that you can broaden your reach into more m...
Disaster-Proofing Your Herbal Business
Economic uncertainty is part of business â but thereâs so much you can do to disaster-proof your herbal business and make sure it stays strong throughout the ups and downs.
This episode is the first three steps in the work of diversifying your revenue streams and also your product/service offerings to make sure that your herbal business keeps growing!
Weâre focusing here on how to shift your marketing so that your products/services remain essential as people tighten their budgets, as well as shifting which products or services you offer to make sure that y...
Herbalists' Views on the Top-Selling Herbs (Part 5): Ginkgo, Guarana, Maca
In our fifth installment in this series, we address the facts & fictions about ginkgo, guarana, and maca supplements in commerce! These were #13, 14, and 15 on the top-selling herbs list for 2023 (the most recent data).
This series is all about sharing an herbalistâs understanding of herbs very popular as commercial supplements and other mass-market products. We want to share perspectives of both traditional and contemporary herbal practice, so people can understand these are âgood forâ more than just whatâs on their labels.
Itâs too easy for herbs to be boxed in to smaller and smaller ra...
Can Herbs "Heal"?
What does it mean to heal? When are we âhealedâ? Are there some wounds that canât be healed? If we canât heal â in the sense of achieving âperfect healthâ â are we failures, as people or as herbalists? In this episode, Katja shares her thoughts on the words and ideas âhealingâ carries in our culture, offering a critique of their common (and commercialized!) semantic and emotional baggage.
Transcript
Lately, in conversations with several different people from different realms of my life, the word âhealâ â healing, healer â has come up a lot, and specifica...
Herbalists' Views on the Top-Selling Herbs (Part 4): Green Tea, Fenugreek, Ivy Leaf
We discuss green tea, fenugreek, and ivy leaf in this, the fourth part of an episodic sequence about the best-selling herbs in the US.
Our primary purpose for creating this series of episodes is to share an understanding of these herbs from the perspectives of traditional and contemporary herbal practice. Frequently, the high-volume sales of these herbs comes along with oversimplified or diminished ideas about what they can do. If we ask âwhat does this herb help with?â and answer it based only on what we see on store shelves and product websites, weâll miss out on a l...
Herbalists' Views on the Top-Selling Herbs (Part 3): Wheatgrass, Beet Root, & Ginger
In part three of our series on the top-selling herbs in the United States, we cover wheatgrass, beet root, and ginger supplements.
As we share our opinions about these popular herbal supplements, our primary goal is to help you understand these herbs in their breadth and depth. Theyâre too often pigeon-holed into limited ranges of application â the usual answers to âwhat is it good for?â are too small! Thereâs plenty more to say about them than their most common selling points.
If youâre an herbalist, itâs good for you to be well-informed...
Adaptogens, or A Nap To GenâŠerate Recovery?
If youâre trying to decide whether you need adaptogens or a nap, well, the answer just might be both! But you can learn how to combine your adaptogens with other holistic interventions for better effects.
In this episode weâre talking about choosing the best adaptogens to work with when what you really need is rest â a super common situation we all find ourselves in from time to time. We talk about ways to get rest â even if you donât have time to nap! â as well as ways to rest that arenât about sleep at all.
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Herbalistsâ Views on the Top-Selling Herbs (Part 2): Apple Cider Vinegar, Cranberry
This episode continues our series covering the top-selling herbs in the United States. As we give you our thoughts about these popular herbal supplements, weâre hoping to help you break out of the box. These herbs are frequently pigeon-holed into very narrow ranges of application â the answers to the question âwhat is it good for?â are usually very limited! Thereâs more to say about them than their most effective selling points or marketing campaigns.
If youâre a practicing herbalist, you should be well-informed about the herbal supplements people take most frequently. You should know whatâs popul...
Can I Be A Plus-Sized Herbalist?
Katja writesâŠ
Today a student sent me a question and it was so important, i asked her if i could (anonymously) share it, because i know other people are wondering this too.
She wrote:
"I wanted to ask for any advice or your thoughts on how to handle being a plus size herbalist.
I am plus sized. Though I am currently in working on a healthier life style that includes using herbs, I feel like when people see me or see that Im plus sized that they may no...
Herbal Detox? Heed the Donât Ox! âđ

Talk of herbal detox comes up every spring â some years, earlier than others. We field a lot of questions from people asking our opinions on detox protocols, bowel cleanses, liver flushes, you name it. So, in this episode, weâre giving you our fundamental thoughts on the topic.
Ryn wrote you a poem that sums up our perspective. Here it is:
The Donât Ox
if you think you need a detox,
hear & heed the Donât Ox â
listen well when he talks,
when he says:
Donât.
Two Herbal UTI Formulae - Moving Beyond Uva Ursi and Cranberry
When you think of UTI and herbs, you probably think of cranberry and uva ursi first. Youâre not wrong to do so! Theyâre reliable and effective remedies. But if you stop there, though, youâll be missing out on some herbs who can also do the job, and do it well. In this episode we outline two herbal UTI formulae we work with ourselves, and explain why and how theyâre helpful.
We also take this opportunity to demonstrate our method of formulation, and show how the same actions and qualities can be achieved from differen...
Herbalists' Views on the Top-Selling Herbs (Part 1): Psyllium, Elderberry, Turmeric, Ashwagandha
This episode begins an intermittent series weâll be doing this year, covering the top-selling herbs in the United States and giving you our thoughts about them. From the perspective of a practicing herbalist, these herbs are frequently pigeon-holed into very narrow ranges of application â the âwhat is it good forâ answers are quite limited!Â
The Herbal Market Report from the American Botanical Council comes out every year, with data about herbal supplement sales for the prior year. Check it out and take a look at the âmainstreamâ and ânatural channelâ best-seller lists â you might be surprised at whatâs on there...
A Definitive Guide to Bitters
Welcome to 2025, everyone! Letâs give the year a bitter start â thatâs better than a bitter end, right? If you donât think so yet, listen to this episode and by the end, weâre sure youâll agree!
Bitters are a truly indispensable piece of an herbal toolkit. They â like demulcents, adaptogens, and alteratives â can achieve things in the body which pharmaceuticals, acupuncture, and other healing modalities simply cannot replicate. Bitters are one of the herbalistâs superpowers!
In this episode, we cover:
bitter as signal â and why their actions on the body are near...Herbal Holiday Gifts for YOU! đ
A brief update this time, to let you know about some herbal holiday gifts weâve put together for you & yours!
Herbal Activities Calendar
The best way to learn herbalism is to do a little bit every day â so weâve built you a whole activities calendar that will feed itself automagically right into your own calendar of choice (Google, Yahoo, Outlook, etc). You can even set notifications so that you donât forget to try fun new herby things!
View the Herbal Activities CalendarInstructions for adding the Herbal Activities Calendar to your...Just Press Play
Weâre still making the podcast! We have not abandoned you, dear listeners. đ
Weâve been busy producing material for our online courses â especially the Accessible Herbalism and Clinical Skills courses. Weâve also been enhancing our student experience and building up our student community, so that learning with us is more enjoyable and cooperative. Youâre not out there in the world on your own, when you study herbalism with us!
Today, though, we wanted to hop back on the pod feed and convey this simple message to you: just press play!
Lots of our s...
Interview with Ashley Bissonnette-Murphy
This week weâd like you to meet Ashley Bissonnette-Murphy, who is one of our Clinical Mentorship students. Ashley is advanced in her mentorship, and sheâs been seeing her own clients in our Student Clinic and Free Clinic for a year. She does great work!
You can find Ashley at hwapothicaire.com and on social media at @hwapothicaire. Definitely jump on her mailing list to get her excellent monthly newsletters!
We mentioned our free Herbal Business Productivity mini-course in this episode. Itâs part of our comprehensive Herbal Business Program!
A...
Starting A Compounding Herbal "Apothecary"
This is the fourth in a series about herbal businesses. These videos cover what each kind of herbal business is and what kind of work youâd be doing, what kinds of education and experience youâll need to get it started, and a few tips to help you along the way.
This video focuses on building a Compounding Herbal Apothecary â but as youâll hear right up front, part of this now involves avoiding calling it an âapothecaryâ, because that word is regulated in every state. đ± (Donât worry, Katja has a dozen business-naming suggestions to get you started...
On Discomfort, Evasion, & Challenge
Discomfort and evasion are natural responses to our world. Our ancestors, from a single-celled organism up to Mitochondrial Eve, all survived only because they had strong drives to avoid uncomfortable and dangerous situations. But in our modern world, avoiding all discomforts can stunt our growth, or make us seem more fragile than we really are.
This is not about âgrinding throughâ difficulty, or hurting ourselves in an effort to be âgoodâ. After accounting for oneâs own personal state of ability/mobility/resilience, and after accommodating oneâs needs, and after receiving adequate nourishment and rest â then it is good to...
[REPLAY] What You Should Know About Choosing An Online Herb School
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This originally aired as Episode 188 of the Holistic Herbalism Podcast.
All herb schools are different, in their focus and their style. When youâre choosing an online herb school, whether for a short course or a long program, here are some key questions to consider:
[REPLAY] Six Herbs for Cognitive Decline Prevention
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This originally aired as Episode 139 of the Holistic Herbalism Podcast. We're replaying it in June 2024 because of the increase in interest in cognitive troubles associated with COVID. Don't despair - you can take steps to protect your mind!
Here' s the study mentioned in the intro: Quan et al. Post-COVID cognitive dysfunction: current status and research recommendations for high risk population. Lancet. 2023;38.
Maintaining a sharp & healthy mind...
Emergency Readiness Needs A Meal Plan
With heat waves hitting heavy, and hurricane season on the move, weâre thinking about disaster preparedness â again! In this episode, weâre covering an aspect of disaster preparedness we havenât discussed on the pod before: food. Whether youâre putting together a bug-out bag, or building up a bug-in bag (or box, or cabinet, or whatever), youâve got to have food.
Whatâll matter in this context includes protein, fiber, calories, flavor, and â believe it or not â sugar. Since environments and emergencies differ, what you pack yourself might be a little different from what we do. Weâll give...
Time Management & Productivity for Herbal Business People
The single most important factor in the success of your business is your ability to manage your time and be productive.
Great â cause thatâs not hard at all, right? đ
Trouble is, this is not something youâre just born knowing how to do.
Itâs a skill you have to develop â but you can do it, and this course will help!
Enroll for free and over the next month, you will learn so much about how to get control of your schedule â so that you have time for your business withou...
Starting A Clinical Herbalism Business
We continue this week with Katjaâs series: Starting Your Herbal Business! Today the focus is on the practice of clinical herbalism.
Building and running a practice as a clinical herbalist isnât only about your interview skills, your ability to formulate a personalized remedy, or your capacity to build a holistic health plan in collaboration with your clients. Support work, research, and administrative tasks will take a fair amount of your attention â not to mention continuing education!
Clinical work involves a lot of teaching. You teach your clients how to prepare their remedies, you teach...
Acknowledging Complexity Is Not Gatekeeping
When youâre an herbalist, itâs normal to get questions from people about herbs. Usually theyâre thinking that itâs a simple question, and expecting a simple response: âWhatâs good for IBS?â âChamomile.â But the truth is a lot more complex than that! When you learn about herbalism, you come to understand that there are no herbs âforâ any disease state. Instead, there are herbs who can exert influences on the body, and those may match well (or poorly) with the specific state of an individual person. So you become less enthusiastic about simply giving someone the name of an herb wh...
Starting An Herb Shop
We continue this week with Katjaâs series: Starting Your Herbal Business! Today the focus is on an herb shop or herbal apothecary, with or without a tea bar for tastings and treats.
Running an herb shop involves a fair amount of administrative work: ordering, stocking, inventory, payment processing, taxes, etc. Sharpen up your spreadsheets, folks! Thatâs not all there is to it, of course â thereâs a huge aspect of community-building involved. Talking to people, planning events, and serving as a hub for your herbal community are also part of the gig.
In fact, if...
Starting An Herbal Products Business
This week Katja brings you the first in a new series weâve been wanting to produce for you: Starting Your Herbal Business! Today the focus is on herbal products â tinctures, salves, elixirs, tea blends, all that good stuff!
Listen in for a simple explanation of what youâll need to know if you want to build an herbal products business of your own. Itâs not just about knowing your herbs â although of course that comes first! Itâs also about medicine-making at scale, creating effective & regulation-compliant labeling, marketing effectively and sincerely, and finding what makes your remedie...
Herbs A-Z: Zingiber đ«
Today we reach the end of our apothecary shelves! This series started way back with episode 170 on Achillea & Acorus, and today in episode 227 weâve finally come to Zingiber.
Todayâs entire episode is all about ginger. (Yes, it deserves its own entire episode. If you donât already believe it, we will convince you!)
We discuss Katjaâs evolving preference for fresh vs dried ginger in our tea blends at home, and some of the variations in activity between fresh vs dried ginger. We talk about quick topical applications of this wildly accessible herb, to relie...