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Does your healthcare organization have an effective compliance program? Captain Integrity is here to save the day. Learn how to roll out necessary, lighthearted, and fun education to your employees and physicians so they abide by Stark Law. Hosted by Bob Wade aka Captain Integrity, award-winning Healthcare Regulatory and Stark Law Attorney
Part 1: Cybersecurity and the False Claims Act (FCA), Two Great Tastes that Taste Great Together: A Discussion with Bart Daniel, Partner, Nelson Mullins
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Cybersecurity and the False Claims Act (FCA) have more in common than you think. In Part 1 of this 2-part episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade talks cybersecurity and the False Claims Act with returning guest and Nelson Mullins Partner Bart Daniel. Hear the history of the False Claims Act, fascinating stats on whistleblowers, the impact of Trumpâs executive order on cybersecurity from June 2025, the certifications needed in cybersecurity, and some delicious candy bar history. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
What Are Not Ownership Interests under the Stark Law: The Devil Is in the Details
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There are some exceptions to the broad definition of an ownership interest under the Stark Law. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade explains what are not ownership interests under the Stark Law. Hear why the definition does have exceptions, how most of the exceptions are deemed to be compensation arrangements, how to treat an unsecured loan, the 7 types of exceptions, and the original version of âThe devil is in the details.â Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Loans Are Ownership Interests under the Stark Law: When in Rome, Do as the Romans Do
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Understanding the definition of an ownership interest is crucial under the Stark Law. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade shares why loans are ownership interests under the Stark Law. Hear why you need to know & understand all definitions under the Stark Law, why ownership interests also include loans & bonds under the Stark Law, why you should always self-report, key takeaways from a recent Stark Law settlement, and the history of the âWhen in Romeâ proverb. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com
Part 2: Artificial Intelligence (AI) & Fair Market Value (FMV) under Stark Law & Anti-Kickback Statute (AKS): A Discussion with Chris David, Managing Partner, HealthValue Group
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Artificial Intelligence (AI) needs a little pushback. In Part 2 of this 2-part episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade continues his talk on the intersection of AI, Fair Market Value (FMV), the Stark Law, and the Anti-Kickback Statute (AKS) with HealthValue Group Managing Partner Chris David. Hear why we need to be human to make AI helpful, how to protect your nonproprietary data AI canât replicate, why survey data & valuation models are a commodity now, why AI wonât replace you as healthcare consultants, and an exercise involving a letter generated by Copilot. Learn more...
Part 1: Artificial Intelligence (AI) & Fair Market Value (FMV) under Stark Law & Anti-Kickback Statute (AKS): A Discussion with Chris David, Managing Partner, HealthValue Group
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Artificial Intelligence (AI) can save a lot of time, but you need to use it wisely. In Part 1 of this 2-part episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade talks the intersection of AI, Fair Market Value (FMV), the Stark Law, and the Anti-Kickback Statute (AKS) with HealthValue Group Managing Partner Chris David. Hear how AI is already impacting the healthcare consulting industry, notable cases involving AI, the top use cases for AI tools, how AI-generated documents are viewed under the Stark Law, and whether the government is accepting AI. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
FQHCs, AKS, Stark Law, and âPulling Togetherâ
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Federally Qualified Health Centers (FQHCs) serve a medically underserved population. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade talks FQHCs, the Anti-Kickback Statute (AKS), and the Stark Law. Hear whether the Stark Law applies to FQHCs, the wide range of financial arrangements that can happen, why itâs important to document those financial arrangements, the most important rules & provisions to follow, and the history of the âpulling togetherâ phrase. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Expert Witness Selection, Preparing, and Utilization: A Discussion with White Collar Crime Attorney Sean McKenna
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Preparing expert witnesses for their testimony is an arduous process. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade dives into expert witness selection, preparing, and utilization with White Collar Crime Attorney Sean McKenna. Hear how to select the right expert witness, how to ensure the privileges are maintained, how to perform role playing during cross-examinations, the types of cases ripe for expert witnesses, and how to refute an expert witness. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Part 3: Artificial Intelligence (AI) in Healthcare Law & Compliance: A Discussion with Nelson Mullins Partners Bob Coffield & Darren Skyles
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Actively use Artificial Intelligence (AI). In Part 3 of this 3-part episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade talks AI in healthcare law & compliance with Nelson Mullins Partners Bob Coffield & Darren Skyles. Hear why the implementation of AI technology will separate the winners & losers, how to explore AI applications as a Compliance Officer, how to think of AI governance like the development of a robust compliance program, the ties between AI governance & autonomous cars, and what AI use in healthcare will look like in 3-5 years. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com
Part 2: Artificial Intelligence (AI) in Healthcare Law & Compliance: A Discussion with Nelson Mullins Partners Bob Coffield & Darren Skyles
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Being unbiased & fair is critical in the healthcare space. In Part 2 of this 3-part episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade talks Artificial Intelligence (AI) in healthcare law & compliance with Nelson Mullins Partners Bob Coffield & Darren Skyles. Hear examples of how AI can be used in compliance, the key questions to put on the table, where thereâs greater risk, whether it will eventually be considered malpractice if youâre not using AI in healthcare, and how worried compliance teams should be about bias with AI tools. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com
Part 1: Artificial Intelligence (AI) in Healthcare Law & Compliance: A Discussion with Nelson Mullins Partners Bob Coffield & Darren Skyles
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Healthcare laws werenât designed with artificial intelligence (AI) in mind. In Part 1 of this 3-part episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade talks AI in healthcare law & compliance with Nelson Mullins Partners Bob Coffield & Darren Skyles. Hear where AI is already delivering real value in healthcare law & compliance today, the governance & risk management building blocks related to AI, the pros & cons of AI as it relates to existing healthcare laws, how AI compares to other tech revolutions over the years, and why AI might even be its own species. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Compliance Program Effectiveness: The 8th Element of an Effective Compliance Program
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Evaluating the effectiveness of a compliance program is a very important step. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade describes what a compliance effectiveness review is all about. Hear what the 8th element of an effective compliance program is, who should do the reviewing, why itâs all about culture, what Bob looks at in a review, and infamous examples where organizations failed to test effectiveness. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
How to Deliver Bad News: A Conversation with Mimi Bliss, Leadership Communications Consultant with Bliss Communications
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Build in time for back & forth. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade breaks down how to deliver bad news with Mimi Bliss, Leadership Communications Consultant with Bliss Communications. Hear the power of the pause, how to use starter or transition phrases, why you should keep it short & simple, what to do if an executive keeps interrupting you, and the key phrases to avoid. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Health Law and Compliance Christmas Specials 2021 - 2025
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This weekâs Stark Integrity is a compilation of all the Christmas holiday specials from 2021-2025. Hear Captain Integrity Bob Wade read his original Stark Law holiday poems, ââTwas the Night before the Subpoena,â âRudy the Seasoned Compliance Officer,â âJolly OIG Agent,â âThe 12 Days of Compliance,â and âCaptain Integrity.â Share the poems with your team and learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com
2025 Christmas Episode with âSanta Babyâ Parody
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Itâs time for the 2025 Stark Integrity podcast Christmas Special! In this special holiday episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade reflects on 2025 and sings his latest custom Stark Law holiday carol, a âSanta Babyâ parody. Hear Bobâs professional highlights from the year, the latest with his grandkids & Disney World, his accident involving a ladder, the history of âSanta Baby,â and the Stark Law holiday poem you can share with your team. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
From Probe Audit to False Claims Act Liability (FCA): How Did We Get Here?
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Audit results could lead to False Claims Act liability (FCA). In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade talks through audits and potential FCA liability under the Stark Law. Hear why you should do probe audits, when you need to take corrective action, how to avoid the draconian fines & penalties under the FCA, famous cases involving the FCA, and not-so-funny examples of things that go from bad to very ugly. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com
What? I Married the Stark Law?
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Some spouses may not know their financial arrangements may implicate the Stark Law. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade explains the marital considerations under the Stark Law. Hear when the Stark Law is implicated, why you need to train people who are approving payments to understand who owns the companies and their ties to physicians, how to exercise due diligence as it relates to the Stark law, just how broad the Stark Law can be, and entertaining marriage movies over the years. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
AI Use and Guardrails in Healthcare: A Discussion with Natalie Ramello, VP, Chief Compliance & Audit Officer, UT Southwestern Medical Center
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You need to know what AI tools your organization is working with. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade dives into AI use (Artificial Intelligence) and guardrails in healthcare with Natalie Ramello, VP, Chief Compliance & Audit Officer, UT Southwestern Medical Center. Hear why integrity is the launchpad for innovation, how to protect the data, why AI requires accountability, why AI can hallucinate, and an AI-inspired rendition of Captain Integrityâs 3 Punch Points. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com
âPersonally Performedâ Services and Autonomous Vehicles
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Could âpersonally performedâ services be compared to a self-driving vehicle? In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade talks the parallels under the Stark Law. Hear why âpersonally performedâ is frequently quoted in the Stark Law and Stark Law exceptions, what deems a service to be a referral, why a referral would not meet the Stark Law exceptions, whether the situation gets tricky, and Bobâs experience with a Zoox autonomous vehicle. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com
TPE (Targeted Probe and Educate) Audits: A Conversation with Kay Hashagen, Senior Consultant with LW Consulting
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TPE (Targeted Probe and Educate) audits look benign, but could be scary. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade explores TPE audits with Kay Hashagen, Senior Consultant with LW Consulting. Hear how to know if youâre an outlier, the importance of responding timely, why the best defense is a strong offense, how a TPE audit works, and a bunch of things that look benign - but could kill you. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Compliance Advisory Support and Why It Brings Value: A Conversation with Sheila Limmroth, Executive Consultant and Compliance Officer at Pinnacle Healthcare
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Interviews are key for risk assessment. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade dives into the value of compliance advisory support with Sheila Limmroth, Executive Consultant and Compliance Officer at Pinnacle Healthcare. Hear why advisory does not equal incompetence, how to grow from within, how to build a stronger compliance program, why no person or compliance program is perfect, and how nobody knows everything. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com
Captain Integrity and the Curse of Stark Hallow and Halloween Costumes through the Years
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Boo! In this special Halloween episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade shares his original poem âCaptain Integrity and the Curse of Stark Hallowâ and a trip down Halloween costume history. Hear the most popular Halloween costumes from 1950-2005, the top Halloween costume on your birth year, Bobâs all-time favorite Halloween costume, the common theme with Halloween costumes over the years, and Bobâs special Halloween poem âCaptain Integrity and the Curse of Stark Hallow.â Email Bob to get a printed copy of the poem and learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com
Transparency, Action, and The 2025 Open Payments Report: A Discussion with Aaron Narva, CEO of Conflixis
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 For every dollar of open payments money that goes into a hospital staff, thereâs $7 of increase in spend on average to those firms. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade talks transparency & action as they relate to The 2025 Open Payments Report with Aaron Narva, CEO of Conflixis. Hear why you shouldnât underestimate the impact of conflicts, how to know your healthcare data better than anyone else, how to use your healthcare data as a strategic advantage, why thereâs a systemic problem, and the ice cream truck example. Learn more at Captain...
Part 3: Non-Monetary Compensation and Medical Staff Incidental Benefits: A Discussion with the American Association of Physician Liaisons (AAPL)
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If youâre going to give a gift to one physician, give it to all your physicians. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade rebroadcasts Part 3 of his webinar from September 5, 2025 with the American Association of Physician Liaisons (AAPL). Hear an insightful Q&A session on non-monetary compensation and medical staff incidental benefits, how to handle gift certificates under the Stark Law, what to do when your organization is scared of being audited, the compliant way to give holiday gifts to physicians, and how to stay compliant when thereâs a big dinner out...
Part 2: Non-Monetary Compensation and Medical Staff Incidental Benefits: A Discussion with the American Association of Physician Liaisons (AAPL)
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Doctors believe the medical staff funds are owned by them. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade rebroadcasts Part 2 of his webinar from September 5, 2025 with the American Association of Physician Liaisons (AAPL). Hear the benefits you can provide, how to handle lunches for doctors, the difference between employed & independent physicians as it relates to the Stark Law, value vs. cost considerations, and how to think about Joe on the street. Use code: CaptainIntegrity for a one-time $20 discount on a new AAPL membership and learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Part 1: Non-Monetary Compensation and Medical Staff Incidental Benefits: A Discussion with the American Association of Physician Liaisons (AAPL)
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Thereâs a lot to consider when it comes to the Stark Law. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade rebroadcasts Part 1 of his webinar from September 5, 2025 with the American Association of Physician Liaisons (AAPL). Hear the basics of the Stark Law, notable exceptions, whether you can accept gifts in the healthcare industry, what to do if youâve made a mistake in Stark Law compliance, and some Captain Integrity strips. Use code: CaptainIntegrity for a one-time $20 discount on a new AAPL membership and learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com
Reckless Disregard/Deliberate Ignorance Under the False Claims Act: âYou Canât Handle the Truthâ!
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The False Claims Act (FCA) has 3 knowledge qualifiers. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade unpacks the difference between actual knowledge, deliberate ignorance, and reckless disregard as it relates to the Stark Law. Hear why the 3 knowledge qualifiers exist, how risk impacts the False Claims Act, why you have to look at the history with respect to reviews, examples of the knowledge qualifiers with the healthcare compliance context, and that famous line from A Few Good Men. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Probe to Statistically Valid Reviews: When to âKeep on Diggingâ
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Performing billing and documentation audits & reviews are important for an effective compliance program. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade explains what a probe review is and when you need to keep digging for a statistically valid review. Hear how to design your probe review using the RAT-STATS program, when you can treat your probe review as an educational review, when you need to do a statistically valid review, the history of RAT-STATS, and the origin of the âkeep on diggingâ idiom. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
wRVUs and Modifier 25: Did the Physician "Go the Extra Mile"?
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The misuse of Modifier 25 can result in overcompensation if the physician is being compensated through a wRVU productivity model. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade lays out the connection between Modifier 25 and wRVUs as they relate to the Stark Law. Hear what questions to ask when it comes to Modifier 25, how to document separateness & significance, the connection between auditing for Modifier 25 and the Stark Law, the 4 criteria to use with Modifier 25, and the origin of Going the Extra Mile. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Donât Shoot the Messenger
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Donât shoot the messenger. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade explores the nature of delivering bad news as a Compliance Officer & beyond. Hear how to deliver bad news, why you should soften the soil, how to use the sandwich approach when delivering bad news, the dangers of sugarcoating, and the history of the phrase Donât Shoot the Messenger. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Compliance Officer: You Are Not an Independent Auditor
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Auditor: you are not a Compliance Officer. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade dives into the complementary roles of Compliance Officer and Auditor. Hear the difference between the two roles, what each position is responsible for, why the roles are separate & distinct, the history of the Charles Horton Cooley looking-glass self quote, and some notable Hamilton lyrics. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
2025 Healthcare Enforcement Priorities: A Discussion with Brook Andrews, Partner at Nelson Mullins
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Audit yourself. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade tackles the 2025 healthcare enforcement priorities with Brook Andrews, Partner at Nelson Mullins. Hear why healthcare enforcement is not going away, how the governmentâs healthcare enforcement tools will continue to get better, how to build a culture of transparency, who healthcare enforcement is targeting, and the parable of the blind men and the elephant. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Medical Staff Funds & The Stark Law
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If medical staff funds are in a hospital account, the Stark Law applies. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade details medical staff funds as they relate to the Stark Law. Hear when the Stark Law applies, why the medical staff funds are restricted, what to consider if the medical staff funds are not in a hospital account, the risks when it comes to medical staff funds, and why this is a controversial topic. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Do You Know Where Your Physicians Are? Underperformance Can Cause Financial Arrangements to Exceed Fair Market Value (FMV)
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If youâre paying your doctor for an hour of service, you better make sure your doctor is working an hour of service. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade breaks down what happens when financial arrangements exceed Fair Market Value (FMV). Hear why itâs important to keep tabs on your doctors, why monitoring is such a key component of compliance, what to do if financial arrangements exceed FMV, a case example of unethical billing practices, and the Top 10 PSA that inspired this episode. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com
DOJ and HHS New False Claims Act Working Group Targeting Healthcare Fraud: A Discussion with Knicole Emanuel, Partner at Nelson Mullins
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Healthcare providers should be concerned. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade explores the new DOJ and HHS False Claims Act Working Group targeting healthcare fraud with Knicole Emanuel, Partner at Nelson Mullins. Hear why you should review your compliance program, reassess your risk exposure, consider voluntary disclosure, the areas the working group is targeting, and why this is a paradigm shift for the healthcare industry. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
Clinical Trials National & International Compliance: A Discussion with Julio Martinez-Clark, CEO of bioaccess
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The larger the country, the longer it takes to get trials approved. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade explores how compliance works for national & international clinical trials with Julio Martinez-Clark, CEO of bioaccess. Hear how clinical research is global, why some countries approve trials quicker, why patients in developing economies need to have access to these trials, how countries differ with their regulatory requirements, and the hottest topics in compliance. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
UPICs: What They Are and How to Avoid: A Discussion with Harriett Wall, President & CEO of LW Consulting
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The best defense is a good offense. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade discusses the dreaded UPICs (Unified Program Integrity Contractors) with Harriett Wall, President & CEO of LW Consulting. Hear why a UPIC audit is a very serious matter, why you need to organize your team as soon as possible, how to put together a robust compliance plan, who could be the subject of a UPIC audit, and how the appeal process works. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com
Cybersecurity Risk Management in Healthcare & Compliance: A Discussion with Matthew Toussain, Founder of Open Security
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Attackers only win when you have no choice left. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade breaks down the importance of cybersecurity in healthcare & compliance with Matthew Toussain, Founder of Open Security. Hear how to focus on the basics, why you shouldnât trust anyone, how to know your risk and the enemy, how to stay ahead of cybersecurity attacks, and Matthewâs background in the Air Force. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
AI's Use in Alleviating Physician Burdens: A Discussion with David Norris, Co-Founder & CEO of Affineon Health
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AI in healthcare is moving at a pace weâve never seen. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade explores the fascinating future of AI (Artificial Intelligence) in healthcare with David Norris, Co-Founder & CEO of Affineon Health. Hear why you should embrace AI as a healthcare provider, why this is the most transformative time for healthcare providers, how AI will significantly shift responsibility, how AI can help reduce burnout in the healthcare industry, and the top use cases for AI in healthcare. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
DOJ Civil/Criminal Updated Enforcement Plan: A Discussion with Jillian Willis, Partner at Nelson Mullins
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Compliance programs matter. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade discusses the DOJ Civil/Criminal Updated Enforcement Plan with Jillian Willis, Partner at Nelson Mullins. Hear how the DOJ (Department of Justice) is committed to investigating & prosecuting white-collar crime, how the Corporate Whistleblower Awards Pilot Program incentivizes whistleblowers, why compliance programs still matter in each administration, the overlap between criminal & civil protocols, and all the latest updates to the DOJâs enforcement plan. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.comÂ
One Big Beautiful Billâs Impact on Healthcare
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Wondering how the One Big Beautiful Bill will impact healthcare if it passes the Senate? In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade shares all you need to know. Hear how a substantial number of Medicaid beneficiaries would lose their status, how rural hospitals could reopen, why the annual increases in the Medicare conversion factor will decrease, the most important takeaways Bob learned while reading the bill, and the biggest differences vs. the current law. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com