DataFramed
Welcome to DataFramed, a weekly podcast exploring how artificial intelligence and data are changing the world around us. On this show, we invite data & AI leaders at the forefront of the data revolution to share their insights and experiences into how they lead the charge in this era of AI. Whether you're a beginner looking to gain insights into a career in data & AI, a practitioner needing to stay up-to-date on the latest tools and trends, or a leader looking to transform how your organization uses data & AI, there's something here for everyone. Join co-hosts Adel Nehme and Richie Cotton...
#326 Is the Data Analyst Role Dying Out? with Mo Chen, Data & Analytics Manager at NatWest Group

The role of data analysts is evolving, not disappearing. With generative AI transforming the industry, many wonder if their analytical skills will soon become obsolete. But how is the relationship between human expertise and AI tools really changing? While AI excels at coding, debugging, and automating repetitive tasks, it struggles with understanding complex business problems and domain-specific challenges. What skills should today's data professionals focus on to remain relevant? How can you leverage AI as a partner rather than viewing it as a replacement? The balance between technical expertise and business acumen has never been more critical in navigating...
#325 Using Data to Master the Cycles of Leadership with Carolyn Dewar, Global Practice Leader at McKinsey

Leadership in data-driven organizations requires a delicate balance of technical expertise and human understanding. As businesses navigate unprecedented uncertainty in global markets, geopolitics, and technological change, the role of data as a source of truth becomes increasingly vital. But how do you create a culture where data informs decisions at every level? What separates leaders who merely collect data from those who leverage it to drive bold, transformative action? For data professionals looking to advance their careers, the challenge extends beyond technical skills to understanding how data connects to broader business strategy and organizational purpose.
Carolyn Dewar...
#324 Using Behavioral Science to Hack Your Customers Minds with Richard Shotton, Founder at Astroten

Behavioral science is revolutionizing how businesses connect with customers and influence decisions. By understanding the psychological principles that drive human behavior, companies can create more effective marketing strategies and product experiences. But how can you apply these insights in your data-driven work? What simple changes could dramatically improve how your audience responds to your messaging? The difference between abstract and concrete language can quadruple memorability, and timing your communications around 'fresh start' moments can increase receptivity by over 50%. Whether you're designing user experiences or communicating insights, understanding these hidden patterns of human behavior could be your competitive advantage.
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Data literacy and AI literacy are becoming essential skills in today's digital landscape. As organizations collect more data and deploy AI solutions, the ability to understand, interpret, and make decisions with these tools is increasingly valuable. But how do we develop these skills effectively across an organization? What does successful implementation of data and AI literacy programs look like in practice? The journey to becoming data literate doesn't require becoming a data scientist—it's about building confidence and comfort with data in your specific role. From change management strategies to measuring real value, understanding how to foster these skills ca...
#322 How Next-Gen Data Analytics Powers Your AI Strategy with Christina Stathopoulos, Founder at Dare to Data

The relationship between AI assistants and data professionals is evolving rapidly, creating both opportunities and challenges. These tools can supercharge workflows by generating SQL, assisting with exploratory analysis, and connecting directly to databases—but they're far from perfect. How do you maintain the right balance between leveraging AI capabilities and preserving your fundamental skills? As data teams face mounting pressure to deliver AI-ready data and demonstrate business value, what strategies can ensure your work remains trustworthy? With issues ranging from biased algorithms to poor data quality potentially leading to serious risks, how can organizations implement responsible AI practices while st...
#321 Developing Financial AI Products at Experian with Vijay Mehta, EVP of Global Solutions & Analytics at Experian

Financial institutions are racing to harness the power of AI, but the path to implementation is filled with challenges. From feature engineering to model deployment, the technical complexities of AI adoption in finance require careful navigation of both technological and regulatory landscapes. How do you build AI systems that satisfy strict compliance requirements while still delivering business value? What skills should teams prioritize as AI tools become more accessible through natural language interfaces? With the pressure to reduce model development time from months to days, how can organizations maintain proper governance while still moving at the speed modern business...
#320 The Next Industrial Revolution is Industrial AI | Barbara Humpton, CEO at Siemens USA and Olympia Brikis, Director of Industrial AI at Siemens USA

The manufacturing floor is undergoing a technological revolution with industrial AI at its center. From predictive maintenance to quality control, AI is transforming how products are designed, produced, and maintained. But implementing these technologies isn't just about installing sensors and software—it's about empowering your workforce to embrace new tools and processes. How do you overcome AI hesitancy among experienced workers? What skills should your team develop to make the most of these new capabilities? And with limited resources, how do you prioritize which AI applications will deliver the greatest impact for your specific manufacturing challenges? The answers might be...
#319 Building & Managing Human+Agent Hybrid Teams with Karen Ng, Head of Product at HubSpot

The line between human work and AI capabilities is blurring in today's business environment. AI agents are now handling autonomous tasks across customer support, data management, and sales prospecting with increasing sophistication. But how do you effectively integrate these agents into your existing workflows? What's the right approach to training and evaluating AI team members? With data quality being the foundation of successful AI implementation, how can you ensure your systems have the unified context they need while maintaining proper governance and privacy controls?
Karen Ng is the Head of Product at HubSpot, where she leads product...
#318 Master Your Inner Game to Avoid Burnout with Klaus Kleinfeld, Former CEO at Alcoa and Siemens

The modern workplace often glorifies constant productivity and hustle culture, but at what cost? More professionals are burning out earlier in their careers, while elite athletes are extending their peak performance years. What can business leaders learn from high-performance sports about energy management and sustainable success? How do you distinguish between your 'inner game'—managing your energy and purpose—and your 'outer game' of business skills and execution? Could simple techniques like compartmentalization, breathing exercises, and finding deeper purpose transform your professional effectiveness? What if the key to avoiding burnout isn't working less, but working differently?
Dr. Klau...
Industry Roundup #6: GPT-5 Launch & Scaling Limits, Meta’s Chatbot Guidelines Leak, and AI Safety Concerns

Welcome to DataFramed Industry Roundups! In this series of episodes, we sit down to discuss the latest and greatest in data & AI.Â
In this episode, with special guest, DataCamp Editor Alex, we touch upon the launch of GPT-5, scaling limits in AI, Meta’s leaked chatbot guidelines, trust in AI tools from the Stack Overflow survey, why OpenAI and Anthropic are giving models away to the US government, AI safety concerns around reasoning, and much more.
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GPT-5 Is an Evolution, Not a RevolutionMeta’s AI rules have let bots hold...#317 How to Reengineer Your Business Processes with Nelson Repenning, Distinguished Professor at MIT Sloan & Don Kieffer, Senior Lecturer in Operations Management at MIT Sloan

Every day, knowledge workers face the challenge of managing competing priorities and constant interruptions. When systems are managing us rather than us managing them, productivity suffers and morale plummets. But what if the key to improvement isn't complex reorganization but rather understanding how work actually flows through your team or organization? How can visualizing your workflow and regulating for flow transform productivity? What small, incremental changes might lead to dramatic improvements in both output and job satisfaction?
Nelson P. Repenning is the Faculty Director of the MIT Leadership Center and the School of Management Distinguished Professor of...
#316 Enterprise AI Agents with Jun Qian, VP of Generative AI Services at Oracle

Combining LLMs with enterprise knowledge bases is creating powerful new agents that can transform business operations. These systems are dramatically improving on traditional chatbots by understanding context, following conversations naturally, and accessing up-to-date information. But how do you effectively manage the knowledge that powers these agents? What governance structures need to be in place before deployment? And as we look toward a future with physical AI and robotics, what fundamental computing challenges must we solve to ensure these technologies enhance rather than complicate our lives?
Jun Qian is an accomplished technology leader with extensive experience in artificial...
#315 DataFramed x Alter Everything: Future-Proofing Your Career in AI and Data Analytics | Richie & Megan Bowers

The relationship between AI and data professionals is evolving rapidly, creating both opportunities and challenges. As companies embrace AI-first strategies and experiment with AI agents, the skills needed to thrive in data roles are fundamentally changing. Is coding knowledge still essential when AI can generate code for you? How important is domain expertise when automated tools can handle technical tasks? With data engineering and analytics engineering gaining prominence, the focus is shifting toward ensuring data quality and building reliable pipelines. But where does the human fit in this increasingly automated landscape, and how can you position yourself to thrive...
#314 How to Have a Career in Data Science in 2025 with Dawn Choo, Data Careers Influencer, Co-Founder at Interview Master

Data science continues to evolve in the age of AI, but is it still the 'sexiest job of the 21st century'? While generative AI has transformed the landscape, it hasn't replaced data scientists—instead, it's created more demand for their skills. Data professionals now incorporate AI into their workflows to boost efficiency, analyze data faster, and communicate insights more effectively. But with these technological advances come questions: How should you adapt your skills to stay relevant? What's the right balance between traditional data science techniques and new AI capabilities? And as roles like analytics engineer and machine learning engineer em...
#313 Developing Better Predictive Models with Graph Transformers with Jure Leskovec, Pioneer of Graph Transformers, Professor at Stanford

The structured data that powers business decisions is more complex than the sequences processed by traditional AI models. Enterprise databases with their interconnected tables of customers, products, and transactions form intricate graphs that contain valuable predictive signals. But how can we effectively extract insights from these complex relationships without extensive manual feature engineering?
Graph transformers are revolutionizing this space by treating databases as networks and learning directly from raw data. What if you could build models in hours instead of months while achieving better accuracy? How might this technology change the role of data scientists, allowing them...
#312 Can we Create an AI Doctor? with Aldo Faisal, Professor in AI & Neuroscience at Imperial College

Healthcare AI is rapidly evolving beyond simple diagnostic tools to comprehensive systems that can analyze and predict patient outcomes. With the rise of multimodal AI models that can process everything from medical images to patient records and genetic information, we're entering an era where AI could fundamentally transform how healthcare decisions are made. But how do we ensure these systems maintain patient privacy while still leveraging vast amounts of medical data? What are the technical challenges in building AI that can reason across different types of medical information? And how do we balance the promise of AI-assisted healthcare with...
#311 The Human Element of AI-Driven Transformation with Steve Lucas, CEO at Boomi

The relationship between humans and AI in the workplace is rapidly evolving beyond simple automation. As companies deploy thousands of AI agents to handle everything from expense approvals to customer success management, a new paradigm is emerging—one where humans become orchestrators rather than operators. But how do you determine which processes should be handled by AI and which require human judgment? What governance structures need to be in place before deploying AI at scale? With the potential to automate up to 80% of business processes, organizations must carefully consider not just the technology, but the human element of AI-driven tr...
#310 The State of BI in 2025 with Howard Dresner, Godfather of BI

Business intelligence has been transforming organizations for decades, yet many companies still struggle with widespread adoption. With less than 40% of employees in most organizations having access to BI tools, there's a significant 'information underclass' making decisions without data-driven insights. How can businesses bridge this gap and achieve true information democracy? While new technologies like generative AI and semantic layers offer promising solutions, the fundamentals of data quality and governance remain critical. What balance should organizations strike between investing in innovative tools and strengthening their data infrastructure? How can you ensure your business becomes a 'data athlete' capable of making...
#309 What Science Fiction Can Tell Us About the Future of AI with Ken Liu, Sci-Fi Author

Technology and human consciousness are converging in ways that challenge our fundamental understanding of creativity and connection. As AI systems become increasingly sophisticated at mimicking human thought patterns, we're entering uncharted territory where machines don't just assist creative work—they actively participate in it. But what does this mean for the future of human creativity and our relationship with technology? How do we maintain meaningful human connections in a world where emotional labor is increasingly commoditized? As we navigate this rapidly evolving landscape, the question isn't just whether machines can think, but how their thinking will transform our own.
...Industry Roundup #5: AI Agents Hype vs. Reality, Meta’s $15B Stake in Scale AI, and the First Fully AI-Generated NBA Ad

Welcome to DataFramed Industry Roundups! In this series of episodes, we sit down to discuss the latest and greatest in data & AI.Â
In this episode, with special guest, DataCamp COO Martijn, we touch upon the hype and reality of AI agents in business, the McKinsey vs. Ethan Mollick debate on simple vs. complex agents, Meta's $15B stake in Scale AI and what it means for data and talent, Apple’s rumored $20B bid for Perplexity amid AI struggles, EU’s push to treat AI skills like reading and math, the first fully AI-generated NBA ad and what it me...
#308 A Framework for GenAI App and Agent Development with Jerry Liu, CEO at LlamaIndex

The enterprise adoption of AI agents is accelerating, but significant challenges remain in making them truly reliable and effective. While coding assistants and customer service agents are already delivering value, more complex document-based workflows require sophisticated architectures and data processing capabilities. How do you design agent systems that can handle the complexity of enterprise documents with their tables, charts, and unstructured information? What's the right balance between general reasoning capabilities and constrained architectures for specific business tasks? Should you centralize your agent infrastructure or purchase vertical solutions for each department? The answers lie in understanding the fundamental trade-offs between...
#307 Human Guardrails in Generative AI with Wendy Gonzalez & Duncan Curtis, CEO & SVP of Gen AI at Sama

The line between generic AI capabilities and truly transformative business applications often comes down to one thing: your data. While foundation models provide impressive general intelligence, they lack the specialized knowledge needed for domain-specific tasks that drive real business value. But how do you effectively bridge this gap? What's the difference between simply fine-tuning models versus using techniques like retrieval-augmented generation? And with constantly evolving models and technologies, how do you build systems that remain adaptable while still delivering consistent results? Whether you're in retail, healthcare, or transportation, understanding how to properly enrich, annotate, and leverage your proprietary data...
#306 The Next Generation of Business Intelligence with Colin Zima, CEO at Omni

The modern data stack has transformed how organizations work with data, but are our BI tools keeping pace with these changes? As data schemas become increasingly fluid and analysis needs range from quick explorations to production-grade reporting, traditional approaches are being challenged. How can we create analytics experiences that accommodate both casual spreadsheet users and technical data modelers? With semantic layers becoming crucial for AI integration and data governance growing in importance, what skills do today's BI professionals need to master? Finding the balance between flexibility and governance is perhaps the greatest challenge facing data teams today.
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#305 RAG 2.0 and The New Era of RAG Agents with Douwe Kiela, CEO at Contextual AI, Adjunct Professor at Stanford University, Inventor of RAG

Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG) continues to be a foundational approach in AI despite claims of its demise. While some marketing narratives suggest RAG is being replaced by fine-tuning or long context windows, these technologies are actually complementary rather than competitive. But how do you build a truly effective RAG system that delivers accurate results in high-stakes environments? What separates a basic RAG implementation from an enterprise-grade solution that can handle complex queries across disparate data sources? And with the rise of AI agents, how will RAG evolve to support more dynamic reasoning capabilities?
Douwe Kiela is the...
#304 Accelerating Data Science with Nick Becker, Technical Product Manager at NVIDIA & Dan Hannah, Associate Director at SES AI

GPU acceleration is transforming how data scientists tackle computationally intensive problems in the AI and materials science fields. When dealing with billions of potential molecular combinations or massive datasets requiring dimensionality reduction, traditional CPU approaches often become prohibitively slow and expensive. How can data professionals determine when GPU acceleration will provide meaningful benefits to their workflows? Understanding the right applications for this technology can mean the difference between waiting hours versus minutes for critical results.
Nick Becker is a Group Product Manager at NVIDIA, focused on building RAPIDS and the broader accelerated data science ecosystem. Nick has...
#303 Increasing Your Organization's AI Maturity with Iwo Szapar & Eryn Peters, Founders at AI Maturity Index

AI maturity isn't achieved through technology alone—it requires organizational alignment, cultural readiness, and strategic implementation. Companies across industries are working to move beyond experimental AI use toward systematic integration that delivers measurable business value. How do you assess where your organization stands on the AI maturity spectrum? What frameworks can help prioritize your efforts?
Eryn Peters, Co-founder & co-creator at AI Maturity Index, is a future of work evangelist. She is the co-creator of a tool for assessing AI maturity, and regularly advises companies on how to assess and improve their AI maturity. Eryn is also the Ed...
#302 Making AI Applications like Greased Lightning with William Falcon, CEO at Lightning AI

AI tooling continues to expand with specialized solutions for every step of the development process. For data scientists and engineers, this creates a paradox: more options but potentially more complexity and integration challenges. How do you determine which tools actually improve productivity versus adding unnecessary overhead? Should you prioritize flexibility with individual best-of-breed components or streamline with integrated platforms? What's the most effective way to bridge the gap between experimentation and production-ready AI applications?
William Falcon is an AI researcher and the CEO of Lightning AI. He is the creator of PyTorch Lightning, a lightweight framework designed...
#301 What the Like Button Tells You About Your Customers with Bob Goodson, Inventor of the Like Button

The like button has transformed how we interact online, becoming a cornerstone of digital engagement with over 7 billion clicks daily. What started as a simple user interface solution has evolved into a powerful data collection tool that companies use to understand customer preferences, predict trends, and build sophisticated recommendation systems. The data behind these interactions forms what experts call the 'like graph' - a valuable network of connections that might be one of your company's most underutilized assets.
Bob Goodson is President and Founder of Quid, a Silicon Valley–based company whose AI models are used by a...
Industry Roundup #4: O3 & O4-mini, LLama 4’s Rocky Release & Google’s Agent Ecosystem

Welcome to DataFramed Industry Roundups! In this series of episodes, Adel & Richie sit down to discuss the latest and greatest in data & AI. In this episode, we touch upon the launch of OpenAI’s O3 and O4-mini models, Meta’s rocky release of Llama 4, Google’s new agent tooling ecosystem, the growing arms race in AI, the latest from the Stanford AI Index report, the plausibility of AGI and superintelligence, how agents might evolve in the enterprise, global attitudes toward AI, and a deep dive into the speculative—but chilling—AI 2027 scenario. All that, Easter rave plans, and much more...
#300 End to End AI Application Development with Maxime Labonne, Head of Post-training at Liquid AI & Paul-Emil Iusztin, Founder at Decoding ML

The roles within AI engineering are as diverse as the challenges they tackle. From integrating models into larger systems to ensuring data quality, the day-to-day work of AI professionals is anything but routine. How do you navigate the complexities of deploying AI applications? What are the key steps from prototype to production? For those looking to refine their processes, understanding the full lifecycle of AI development is essential. Let's delve into the intricacies of AI engineering and the strategies that lead to successful implementation.
Maxime Labonne is a Senior Staff Machine Learning Scientist at Liquid AI, serving...
#299 From Panic to Profit, Via Data with Bill Canady, CEO at Arrowhead Engineered Products

Data-driven turnarounds are transforming how struggling businesses find their path back to profitability. When companies falter, the key to recovery can often lies in understanding which 20% of customers and products generate 80% of profits. But how do you quickly identify these critical assets when time is running out? What metrics should you prioritize when cash flow is tight? For data professionals, the challenge extends beyond analysis to implementation—balancing the need for automation of routine tasks while reskilling employees for higher-value work. The intersection of empathy and analytics becomes crucial as teams navigate the emotional journey of organizational change while ma...
#298 Data Storytelling Skills to Increase Your Impact with Kat Greenbrook, Author of The Data Storyteller's Handbook

We live in an era where data is abundant, yet making sense of it is harder than ever. The best insights often go unnoticed—not because they lack value, but because they lack a compelling story. Simply presenting numbers isn’t enough; the way we shape and frame data determines whether it sparks action or fades into the background. Crafting a strong data story means knowing your audience, structuring your insights around a clear problem, goal, action, and impact, and ensuring your narrative is not just persuasive, but ethical. So how do we bridge the gap between information and unde...
#297 The Past and Future of Language Models with Andriy Burkov, Author of The Hundred-Page Machine Learning Book

Misconceptions about AI's capabilities and the role of data are everywhere. Many believe AI is a singular, all-knowing entity, when in reality, it's a collection of algorithms producing intelligence-like outputs. Navigating and understanding the history and evolution of AI, from its origins to today's advanced language models is crucial. How do these developments, and misconceptions, impact your daily work? Are you leveraging the right tools for your needs, or are you caught up in the allure of cutting-edge technology without considering its practical application?
Andriy Burkov is the author of three widely recognized books, The Hundred-Page Machine...
#296 How YPulse Built an AI Application for Market Research with Dan Coates, President at YPulse

The explosion of content in market research has created a paradox - more information but less time to consume it. Companies are now turning to AI chatbots to solve this problem, transforming how professionals interact with research data. Instead of expecting teams to read everything, these tools allow users to extract precisely what they need when they need it. This approach is proving not just more efficient but actually increases engagement with underlying content. How might your organization benefit from more targeted access to insights? What valuable information might be buried in your existing research that AI could help...
#295 How To Get Hired As A Data Or AI Engineer with Deepak Goyal, CEO & Founder at Azurelib Academy

The role of data and AI engineers is more critical than ever. With organizations collecting massive amounts of data, the challenge lies in building efficient data infrastructures that can support AI systems and deliver actionable insights. But what does it take to become a successful data or AI engineer? How do you navigate the complex landscape of data tools and technologies? And what are the key skills and strategies needed to excel in this field?Â
Deepak Goyal is a globally recognized authority in Cloud Data Engineering and AI. As the Founder & CEO of Azurelib Academy, he has b...
#294 Six Skills Data Professionals Need To Succeed with Abhijit Bhaduri, Brand Evangelist & Former General Manager of Global L&D at Microsoft

As data professionals, mastering the technical aspects of AI and data is only half the battle. The real challenge lies in effectively communicating insights to drive action and influence decisions. How do you ensure your data stories resonate with diverse audiences? It's not just about the numbers—it's about crafting a narrative that speaks to stakeholders. What strategies can you employ to make your insights not only heard but impactful?
Abhijit Bhaduri advises organizations on talent and leadership development. As the former Partner and GM Global L&D of Microsoft, Abhijit led their onboarding and skilling strategy es...
#293 Unlocking Humanity in the Age of AI with Faisal Hoque, Founder and CEO of SHADOKA

The integration of AI into everyday business operations raises questions about the future of work and human agency. With AI's potential to automate and optimize, how do we ensure that it complements rather than competes with human capabilities? What measures can be taken to prevent AI from overshadowing human input and creativity? How do we strike a balance between embracing AI's benefits and preserving the essence of human contribution?
Faisal Hoque is the founder and CEO of SHADOKA, NextChapter, and other companies. He also serves as a transformation and an innovation partner for CACI, an $8B company...
#292 Offline A/B Testing: Experimentation in Brick and Mortar with Philipp Paraguya, Chapter Lead Data Science at ALDI DX

In the retail industry, data science is not just about crunching numbers—it's about driving business impact through well-designed experiments. A-B testing in a physical store setting presents unique challenges that require careful planning and execution. How do you balance the need for statistical rigor with the practicalities of store operations? What role does data science play in ensuring that test results lead to actionable insights?Â
Philipp Paraguya is the Chapter Lead for Data Science at Aldi DX. Previously, Philipp studied applied mathematics and computer science and has worked as a BI and advanced analytics consultant in var...
#291 Developments in Speech AI with Alon Peleg & Gill Hetz, COO and VP of AI at aiOla

The integration of speech AI into everyday business operations is reshaping how we communicate and process information. With applications ranging from customer service to quality control, understanding the nuances of speech AI is crucial for professionals. How do you tackle the complexities of different languages and accents? What are the best practices for implementing speech AI in your organization? Explore the transformative power of speech AI and learn how to overcome the challenges it presents in your professional landscape.
Alon Peleg serves as the Chief Operating Officer (COO) at aiOla, a position he assumed in May 2024. With...
#290 Scaling Responsible AI Literacy with Uthman Ali, Global Head of Responsible AI at BP

The rise of AI tools has democratized access to technology, but with it comes the responsibility to use these tools ethically. How do organizations ensure their employees are not only aware of AI's capabilities but also its risks? What does it mean to have a responsible AI strategy that is both comprehensive and adaptable to future advancements? As companies strive to align their AI initiatives with ethical standards, what are the best practices for training and upskilling teams to meet these challenges head-on?
Uthman Ali is the Global Head of Responsible AI at BP and is an...