DataFramed
Welcome to DataFramed, a weekly podcast exploring how artificial intelligence and data are changing the world around us. On this show, we invite data & AI leaders at the forefront of the data revolution to share their insights and experiences into how they lead the charge in this era of AI. Whether you're a beginner looking to gain insights into a career in data & AI, a practitioner needing to stay up-to-date on the latest tools and trends, or a leader looking to transform how your organization uses data & AI, there's something here for everyone. Join co-hosts Adel Nehme and Richie Cotton...
#344 Governing Pandora's Box: Managing AI Risks with Andrea Bonime-Blanc, CEO at GEC Risk Advisory
AI leaders talk about innovation, but the wider reality is messy: fast change, uneven guardrails, and threats that span cyber, reputation, and customer harm. Industry-wide, organizations are shifting from one-off compliance to lifecycle governance—from inception to decommissioning—supported by boards, CEOs, and frontline teams. For professionals, that shows up as coordination work: shared metrics, incentives for responsible delivery, embedded ethics partners, and rapid-response groups when a new risk appears. How do you decide who is accountable for model behavior? What signals should trigger escalation? And what sources can you trust to stay informed without getting overwhelmed?
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#343 Vibe Coding and the Rise of the Non-Developer Builder with Matt Palmer, Developer Relations at Replit
Data and AI teams are drowning in tools, but the big trend is consolidation and speed. AI-driven building is making dashboards, internal apps, and even data workflows feel more like products than reports. Custom interfaces, interactive presentations, and ad hoc apps are becoming easier to create than traditional BI artifacts.
For working professionals, this raises practical questions: should you build a bespoke reporting site instead of another spreadsheet? Can you connect secure data views and prevent leaks by design? What does quality control look like when an agent writes the code—separate chats, clear plans, and tests? An...
#342 The Secrets to High AI Adoption with Stefano Puntoni, Professor at Wharton
AI tools are becoming part of daily work for more professionals than ever before, yet adoption rates vary significantly across functions and company sizes. What separates organizations that successfully integrate AI from those that struggle? How do psychological factors like identity and autonomy shape how workers respond to AI implementation? And what role does corporate culture play in determining whether AI becomes a source of innovation or a point of resistance?
Stefano Puntoni is the Sebastian S. Kresge Professor of Marketing at The Wharton School. Prior to joining Penn, Stefano was a professor of marketing and head...
#341 Our Data Trends & Predictions of 2026 with DataCamp's CEO & COO, Jonathan Cornelissen & Martijn Theuwissen
2026 is shaping up to be a pivotal year for data, AI, and how we work. From step-change improvements in foundation models to AI-native workflows reshaping careers, commerce, and education, the pace of change shows no signs of slowing. After revisiting and scoring their previous predictions, Richie, Jo, and Martijn turn their focus to what’s coming next in 2026.
Building on last year’s discussion, we explore how AI will transform hiring and career progression, why personal AI tutors could become the default learning experience, how AI agents may begin executing real economic activity, and whether we’re on the...
#340 Reviewing Our Data Trends & Predictions of 2025 with DataCamp's CEO & COO, Jonathan Cornelissen & Martijn Theuwissen
2025 was another huge year for data and AI. Generative AI continued to reshape how we work and interact with technology, with organizations moving beyond experimentation and pushing AI firmly into production. We saw major progress in foundation models, the rise of long-running AI agents, production-ready generative video, and wider adoption of synthetic data. At the same time, AI literacy, adoption, and ROI became central concerns for boards and executives, not just technical teams.
This time last year, DataCamp Co-Founders Jonathan and Martijn made a series of predictions about data and AI for 2025. Today, they join Richie to re...
#339 Modern Analytics with Mike Palmer, CEO at Sigma
Self-service analytics has been a goal for data teams for years, but recent advances in AI are accelerating progress in unexpected ways. The combination of natural language interfaces and spreadsheet-like tools is lowering barriers to data access across organizations. But how do you balance the freedom of self-service with the need for governance and accuracy? What skills do analysts need to work effectively with AI systems that don't always produce the same results twice? And when AI-generated answers might be slightly off, how do you know when to trust them?
Mike Palmer is Chief Executive Officer of...
#338 The New Paradigm for Enterprise AI Governance with Blake Brannon, Chief Innovation Officer at OneTrust
AI governance is becoming critical as organizations deploy more intelligent systems across their operations. With predictions of over a billion AI agents entering the workforce in the coming years, traditional governance approaches simply cannot keep pace. How do you ensure your AI systems are using data responsibly without slowing down innovation? What happens when an AI agent makes decisions that were never explicitly programmed? And how do you build governance processes that scale alongside rapidly expanding AI adoption while maintaining trust with customers and regulators?
Blake Brannon is Chief Innovation Officer at OneTrust, where he leads product...
#337 DataFramed, Distilled. The Best Moments of 2025 with Richie Cotton
2025 was the year AI stopped being a curiosity and started reshaping real work. From data analysts speeding up entire workflows in minutes, to managers learning how to lead hybrid teams of humans and agents, the pace of change has been relentless. Across DataFramed this year, one theme kept surfacing: AI isn’t replacing data professionals—it’s raising the bar on what good looks like. Skills are shifting, careers are becoming more fluid, and organizations are being forced to rethink how they build teams, make decisions, and govern technology that now reasons, plans, and acts on our behalf. This Best o...
#336 From City Sewers to Sovereign AI with Russ Wilcox, CEO at ArtifexAI
The concept of sovereign AI is becoming increasingly critical in our interconnected world. Nations and organizations are grappling with who controls the data, infrastructure, and technology that power artificial intelligence systems. But what does this mean for your work in data science and AI implementation? How do you navigate the complex landscape of data ownership when building AI solutions? As geopolitical tensions influence technology development, understanding the nuances of AI sovereignty isn't just for governments—it's essential for anyone working with data and AI systems to ensure resilience and compliance in an uncertain future.
Russ Wilcox is th...
#335 Rebuilding Trust in the Digital Age with Jimmy Wales, Founder at Wikipedia
The internet has transformed how we access information, but it's also created unprecedented challenges around trust and reliability. How do we build digital spaces where collaboration thrives and quality information prevails? What separates toxic online environments from productive ones? The principles of neutrality, transparency, and assuming good faith have proven essential in creating sustainable knowledge communities. But these same principles extend far beyond the digital realm—they're fundamental to effective leadership, successful business relationships, and even political discourse. When trust breaks down, everything becomes more difficult. So what practical steps can we take to foster trust in our organizations an...
#334 The State of Data & AI with Tom Tunguz, VC at Theory Ventures
The AI landscape is evolving at breakneck speed, with new capabilities emerging quarterly that redefine what's possible. For professionals across industries, this creates a constant need to reassess workflows and skills. How do you stay relevant when the technology keeps leapfrogging itself? What happens to traditional roles when AI can increasingly handle complex tasks that once required specialized expertise? With product-market fit becoming a moving target and new positions like forward-deployed engineers emerging, understanding how to navigate this shifting terrain is crucial. The winners won't just be those who adopt AI—but those who can continuously adapt as it ev...
#333 Creating an AI-First Data Team with Bilal Zia, Head of Data Science & Analytics at DuoLingo
Data science leadership is about more than just technical expertise—it’s about building trust, embracing AI, and delivering real business impact. As organizations evolve toward AI-first strategies, data teams have an unprecedented opportunity to lead that transformation. But how do you turn a traditional analytics function into an AI-driven powerhouse that drives decision-making across the business? What’s the right structure to balance deep technical specialization with seamless business integration? From building credibility through high-impact forecasting to creating psychological safety around AI adoption, effective data leadership today requires both technical rigor and visionary communication. The landscape is shifting fast...
#332 How to Build AI Your Users Can Trust with David Colwell, VP of AI & ML at Tricentis
The relationship between data governance and AI quality is more critical than ever. As organizations rush to implement AI solutions, many are discovering that without proper data hygiene and testing protocols, they're building on shaky foundations. How do you ensure your AI systems are making decisions based on accurate, appropriate information? What benchmarking strategies can help you measure real improvement rather than just increased output? With AI now touching everything from code generation to legal documents, the consequences of poor quality control extend far beyond simple errors—they can damage reputation, violate regulations, or even put licenses at risk.
...#331 The Future of Data & AI Education Just Arrived with Jonathan Cornelissen & Yusuf Saber
The future of education is being reshaped by AI-powered personalization. Traditional online learning platforms offer static content that doesn't adapt to individual needs, but new technologies are creating truly interactive experiences that respond to each learner's context, pace, and goals. How can personalized AI tutoring bridge the gap between mass education and the gold standard of one-on-one human tutoring? What if every professional could have a private tutor that understands their industry, role, and specific challenges? As organizations invest in upskilling their workforce, the question becomes: how can we leverage AI to make learning more engaging, effective, and accessible...
#330 Harnessing AI to Help Humanity with Professor Sandy Pentland, HAI Fellow at Stanford, Co-founder of MIT Media Lab
Data storytelling isn't just about presenting numbers—it's about creating shared wisdom that drives better decision-making. In our increasingly polarized world, we often miss that most people actually have reasonable views hidden behind the loudest voices. But how can technology help us cut through the noise and build genuine understanding? What if AI could help us share stories across different communities and contexts, making our collective knowledge more accessible? From reducing unnecessary meetings to enabling more effective collaboration, the way we exchange information is evolving rapidly. Are you prepared for a future where AI helps us communicate more effectively ra...
#329 Building Trust in AI Agents with Shane Murray, Senior Vice President of Digital Platform Analytics at Versant Media
Data quality and AI reliability are two sides of the same coin in today's technology landscape. Organizations rushing to implement AI solutions often discover that their underlying data infrastructure isn't prepared for these new demands. But what specific data quality controls are needed to support successful AI implementations? How do you monitor unstructured data that feeds into your AI systems? When hallucinations occur, is it really the model at fault, or is your data the true culprit? Understanding the relationship between data quality and AI performance is becoming essential knowledge for professionals looking to build trustworthy AI systems.
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The promise of AI in enterprise settings is enormous, but so are the privacy and security challenges. How do you harness AI's capabilities while keeping sensitive data protected within your organization's boundaries? Private AI—using your own models, data, and infrastructure—offers a solution, but implementation isn't straightforward. What governance frameworks need to be in place? How do you evaluate non-deterministic AI systems? When should you build in-house versus leveraging cloud services? As data and software teams evolve in this new landscape, understanding the technical requirements and workflow changes is essential for organizations looking to maintain control over their AI d...
#327 Building a Sales and Marketing Capability for Data Applications with Denise Persson, CMO at Snowflake, and Chris Degnan, former CRO at Snowflake
The journey from startup to billion-dollar enterprise requires more than just a great product—it demands strategic alignment between sales and marketing. How do you identify your ideal customer profile when you're just starting out? What data signals help you find the twins of your successful early adopters? With AI now automating everything from competitive analysis to content creation, the traditional boundaries between departments are blurring. But what personality traits should you look for when building teams that can scale with your growth? And how do you ensure your data strategy supports rather than hinders your AI ambitions in th...
#326 Is the Data Analyst Role Dying Out? with Mo Chen, Data & Analytics Manager at NatWest Group
The role of data analysts is evolving, not disappearing. With generative AI transforming the industry, many wonder if their analytical skills will soon become obsolete. But how is the relationship between human expertise and AI tools really changing? While AI excels at coding, debugging, and automating repetitive tasks, it struggles with understanding complex business problems and domain-specific challenges. What skills should today's data professionals focus on to remain relevant? How can you leverage AI as a partner rather than viewing it as a replacement? The balance between technical expertise and business acumen has never been more critical in navigating...
#325 Using Data to Master the Cycles of Leadership with Carolyn Dewar, Global Practice Leader at McKinsey
Leadership in data-driven organizations requires a delicate balance of technical expertise and human understanding. As businesses navigate unprecedented uncertainty in global markets, geopolitics, and technological change, the role of data as a source of truth becomes increasingly vital. But how do you create a culture where data informs decisions at every level? What separates leaders who merely collect data from those who leverage it to drive bold, transformative action? For data professionals looking to advance their careers, the challenge extends beyond technical skills to understanding how data connects to broader business strategy and organizational purpose.
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#324 Using Behavioral Science to Hack Your Customers Minds with Richard Shotton, Founder at Astroten
Behavioral science is revolutionizing how businesses connect with customers and influence decisions. By understanding the psychological principles that drive human behavior, companies can create more effective marketing strategies and product experiences. But how can you apply these insights in your data-driven work? What simple changes could dramatically improve how your audience responds to your messaging? The difference between abstract and concrete language can quadruple memorability, and timing your communications around 'fresh start' moments can increase receptivity by over 50%. Whether you're designing user experiences or communicating insights, understanding these hidden patterns of human behavior could be your competitive advantage.
<...#323 The Evolution of Data Literacy & AI Literacy with Jordan Morrow, Godfather of Data Literacy
Data literacy and AI literacy are becoming essential skills in today's digital landscape. As organizations collect more data and deploy AI solutions, the ability to understand, interpret, and make decisions with these tools is increasingly valuable. But how do we develop these skills effectively across an organization? What does successful implementation of data and AI literacy programs look like in practice? The journey to becoming data literate doesn't require becoming a data scientist—it's about building confidence and comfort with data in your specific role. From change management strategies to measuring real value, understanding how to foster these skills ca...
#322 How Next-Gen Data Analytics Powers Your AI Strategy with Christina Stathopoulos, Founder at Dare to Data
The relationship between AI assistants and data professionals is evolving rapidly, creating both opportunities and challenges. These tools can supercharge workflows by generating SQL, assisting with exploratory analysis, and connecting directly to databases—but they're far from perfect. How do you maintain the right balance between leveraging AI capabilities and preserving your fundamental skills? As data teams face mounting pressure to deliver AI-ready data and demonstrate business value, what strategies can ensure your work remains trustworthy? With issues ranging from biased algorithms to poor data quality potentially leading to serious risks, how can organizations implement responsible AI practices while st...
#321 Developing Financial AI Products at Experian with Vijay Mehta, EVP of Global Solutions & Analytics at Experian
Financial institutions are racing to harness the power of AI, but the path to implementation is filled with challenges. From feature engineering to model deployment, the technical complexities of AI adoption in finance require careful navigation of both technological and regulatory landscapes. How do you build AI systems that satisfy strict compliance requirements while still delivering business value? What skills should teams prioritize as AI tools become more accessible through natural language interfaces? With the pressure to reduce model development time from months to days, how can organizations maintain proper governance while still moving at the speed modern business...
#320 The Next Industrial Revolution is Industrial AI | Barbara Humpton, CEO at Siemens USA and Olympia Brikis, Director of Industrial AI at Siemens USA
The manufacturing floor is undergoing a technological revolution with industrial AI at its center. From predictive maintenance to quality control, AI is transforming how products are designed, produced, and maintained. But implementing these technologies isn't just about installing sensors and software—it's about empowering your workforce to embrace new tools and processes. How do you overcome AI hesitancy among experienced workers? What skills should your team develop to make the most of these new capabilities? And with limited resources, how do you prioritize which AI applications will deliver the greatest impact for your specific manufacturing challenges? The answers might be...
#319 Building & Managing Human+Agent Hybrid Teams with Karen Ng, Head of Product at HubSpot
The line between human work and AI capabilities is blurring in today's business environment. AI agents are now handling autonomous tasks across customer support, data management, and sales prospecting with increasing sophistication. But how do you effectively integrate these agents into your existing workflows? What's the right approach to training and evaluating AI team members? With data quality being the foundation of successful AI implementation, how can you ensure your systems have the unified context they need while maintaining proper governance and privacy controls?
Karen Ng is the Head of Product at HubSpot, where she leads product...
#318 Master Your Inner Game to Avoid Burnout with Klaus Kleinfeld, Former CEO at Alcoa and Siemens
The modern workplace often glorifies constant productivity and hustle culture, but at what cost? More professionals are burning out earlier in their careers, while elite athletes are extending their peak performance years. What can business leaders learn from high-performance sports about energy management and sustainable success? How do you distinguish between your 'inner game'—managing your energy and purpose—and your 'outer game' of business skills and execution? Could simple techniques like compartmentalization, breathing exercises, and finding deeper purpose transform your professional effectiveness? What if the key to avoiding burnout isn't working less, but working differently?
Dr. Klau...
Industry Roundup #6: GPT-5 Launch & Scaling Limits, Meta’s Chatbot Guidelines Leak, and AI Safety Concerns
Welcome to DataFramed Industry Roundups! In this series of episodes, we sit down to discuss the latest and greatest in data & AI.Â
In this episode, with special guest, DataCamp Editor Alex, we touch upon the launch of GPT-5, scaling limits in AI, Meta’s leaked chatbot guidelines, trust in AI tools from the Stack Overflow survey, why OpenAI and Anthropic are giving models away to the US government, AI safety concerns around reasoning, and much more.
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GPT-5 Is an Evolution, Not a RevolutionMeta’s AI rules have let bots hold...#317 How to Reengineer Your Business Processes with Nelson Repenning, Distinguished Professor at MIT Sloan & Don Kieffer, Senior Lecturer in Operations Management at MIT Sloan
Every day, knowledge workers face the challenge of managing competing priorities and constant interruptions. When systems are managing us rather than us managing them, productivity suffers and morale plummets. But what if the key to improvement isn't complex reorganization but rather understanding how work actually flows through your team or organization? How can visualizing your workflow and regulating for flow transform productivity? What small, incremental changes might lead to dramatic improvements in both output and job satisfaction?
Nelson P. Repenning is the Faculty Director of the MIT Leadership Center and the School of Management Distinguished Professor of...
#316 Enterprise AI Agents with Jun Qian, VP of Generative AI Services at Oracle
Combining LLMs with enterprise knowledge bases is creating powerful new agents that can transform business operations. These systems are dramatically improving on traditional chatbots by understanding context, following conversations naturally, and accessing up-to-date information. But how do you effectively manage the knowledge that powers these agents? What governance structures need to be in place before deployment? And as we look toward a future with physical AI and robotics, what fundamental computing challenges must we solve to ensure these technologies enhance rather than complicate our lives?
Jun Qian is an accomplished technology leader with extensive experience in artificial...
#315 DataFramed x Alter Everything: Future-Proofing Your Career in AI and Data Analytics | Richie & Megan Bowers
The relationship between AI and data professionals is evolving rapidly, creating both opportunities and challenges. As companies embrace AI-first strategies and experiment with AI agents, the skills needed to thrive in data roles are fundamentally changing. Is coding knowledge still essential when AI can generate code for you? How important is domain expertise when automated tools can handle technical tasks? With data engineering and analytics engineering gaining prominence, the focus is shifting toward ensuring data quality and building reliable pipelines. But where does the human fit in this increasingly automated landscape, and how can you position yourself to thrive...
#314 How to Have a Career in Data Science in 2025 with Dawn Choo, Data Careers Influencer, Co-Founder at Interview Master
Data science continues to evolve in the age of AI, but is it still the 'sexiest job of the 21st century'? While generative AI has transformed the landscape, it hasn't replaced data scientists—instead, it's created more demand for their skills. Data professionals now incorporate AI into their workflows to boost efficiency, analyze data faster, and communicate insights more effectively. But with these technological advances come questions: How should you adapt your skills to stay relevant? What's the right balance between traditional data science techniques and new AI capabilities? And as roles like analytics engineer and machine learning engineer em...
#313 Developing Better Predictive Models with Graph Transformers with Jure Leskovec, Pioneer of Graph Transformers, Professor at Stanford
The structured data that powers business decisions is more complex than the sequences processed by traditional AI models. Enterprise databases with their interconnected tables of customers, products, and transactions form intricate graphs that contain valuable predictive signals. But how can we effectively extract insights from these complex relationships without extensive manual feature engineering?
Graph transformers are revolutionizing this space by treating databases as networks and learning directly from raw data. What if you could build models in hours instead of months while achieving better accuracy? How might this technology change the role of data scientists, allowing them...
#312 Can we Create an AI Doctor? with Aldo Faisal, Professor in AI & Neuroscience at Imperial College
Healthcare AI is rapidly evolving beyond simple diagnostic tools to comprehensive systems that can analyze and predict patient outcomes. With the rise of multimodal AI models that can process everything from medical images to patient records and genetic information, we're entering an era where AI could fundamentally transform how healthcare decisions are made. But how do we ensure these systems maintain patient privacy while still leveraging vast amounts of medical data? What are the technical challenges in building AI that can reason across different types of medical information? And how do we balance the promise of AI-assisted healthcare with...
#311 The Human Element of AI-Driven Transformation with Steve Lucas, CEO at Boomi
The relationship between humans and AI in the workplace is rapidly evolving beyond simple automation. As companies deploy thousands of AI agents to handle everything from expense approvals to customer success management, a new paradigm is emerging—one where humans become orchestrators rather than operators. But how do you determine which processes should be handled by AI and which require human judgment? What governance structures need to be in place before deploying AI at scale? With the potential to automate up to 80% of business processes, organizations must carefully consider not just the technology, but the human element of AI-driven tr...
#310 The State of BI in 2025 with Howard Dresner, Godfather of BI
Business intelligence has been transforming organizations for decades, yet many companies still struggle with widespread adoption. With less than 40% of employees in most organizations having access to BI tools, there's a significant 'information underclass' making decisions without data-driven insights. How can businesses bridge this gap and achieve true information democracy? While new technologies like generative AI and semantic layers offer promising solutions, the fundamentals of data quality and governance remain critical. What balance should organizations strike between investing in innovative tools and strengthening their data infrastructure? How can you ensure your business becomes a 'data athlete' capable of making...
#309 What Science Fiction Can Tell Us About the Future of AI with Ken Liu, Sci-Fi Author
Technology and human consciousness are converging in ways that challenge our fundamental understanding of creativity and connection. As AI systems become increasingly sophisticated at mimicking human thought patterns, we're entering uncharted territory where machines don't just assist creative work—they actively participate in it. But what does this mean for the future of human creativity and our relationship with technology? How do we maintain meaningful human connections in a world where emotional labor is increasingly commoditized? As we navigate this rapidly evolving landscape, the question isn't just whether machines can think, but how their thinking will transform our own.
...Industry Roundup #5: AI Agents Hype vs. Reality, Meta’s $15B Stake in Scale AI, and the First Fully AI-Generated NBA Ad
Welcome to DataFramed Industry Roundups! In this series of episodes, we sit down to discuss the latest and greatest in data & AI.Â
In this episode, with special guest, DataCamp COO Martijn, we touch upon the hype and reality of AI agents in business, the McKinsey vs. Ethan Mollick debate on simple vs. complex agents, Meta's $15B stake in Scale AI and what it means for data and talent, Apple’s rumored $20B bid for Perplexity amid AI struggles, EU’s push to treat AI skills like reading and math, the first fully AI-generated NBA ad and what it me...
#308 A Framework for GenAI App and Agent Development with Jerry Liu, CEO at LlamaIndex
The enterprise adoption of AI agents is accelerating, but significant challenges remain in making them truly reliable and effective. While coding assistants and customer service agents are already delivering value, more complex document-based workflows require sophisticated architectures and data processing capabilities. How do you design agent systems that can handle the complexity of enterprise documents with their tables, charts, and unstructured information? What's the right balance between general reasoning capabilities and constrained architectures for specific business tasks? Should you centralize your agent infrastructure or purchase vertical solutions for each department? The answers lie in understanding the fundamental trade-offs between...
#307 Human Guardrails in Generative AI with Wendy Gonzalez & Duncan Curtis, CEO & SVP of Gen AI at Sama
The line between generic AI capabilities and truly transformative business applications often comes down to one thing: your data. While foundation models provide impressive general intelligence, they lack the specialized knowledge needed for domain-specific tasks that drive real business value. But how do you effectively bridge this gap? What's the difference between simply fine-tuning models versus using techniques like retrieval-augmented generation? And with constantly evolving models and technologies, how do you build systems that remain adaptable while still delivering consistent results? Whether you're in retail, healthcare, or transportation, understanding how to properly enrich, annotate, and leverage your proprietary data...