Pictures Out There!
Martin Luther King, Jr., John F. Kennedy, Malala Yousafzai, Greta Thunberg, Cesar Chavez, John Lennon and Yoko Ono... Why do we remember their words so well? And why do they resonate with many of us over long periods of time? A common thread is that they each effectively have ‘painted’ bold and audacious Pictures of a future of possibilities and hope, of a promising tomorrow that inspires each of us to take action. “Pictures Out There!” explores the opportunities we all have every day to ambitiously create our own Pictures of the future that will effectively inspire us to act toward t...
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #16

Welcome to the Pictures Out There podcast series and episode #16, our final podcast of Season 4. Four years in, we’re taking a reflective look at where we are today with the pictures and ideals concepts. It’s the end of the season, and a good time for some reflection…serious, funny, and everything in-between. Please join us at Apple, Spotify, and picturesoutthere.com
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #15

Micro-Cultures! It’s a wonderful concept and picture for the future that allows each of us to peacefully and joyfully express our unique selves, while doing harm to no one. Combined with Equality for All, it beautifully brings our Ideal of We’re the Same and We’re Unique to life for our future world. Join us on Apple, Spotify, and picturesoutthere.com !
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #14

There are “streams” of personal expression, the experience of living, innovation, and change that are as old as humanity, and that bind the past, present, and future together. Music, theatre, drama, comedy, art, fiction, non-fiction, philosophy, science, spirituality, and more! These "streams" are there for us to learn and to enjoy. And we can jump into any of them ourselves! We can "swim" in them and participate in that timeless experience. Let’s chat about it!
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #13

We humans love Storytelling and its magic! We love to tell our stories. And we can really enjoy and benefit from the stories of other people in our lives, and from people that we meet. Their stories are enjoyable to hear and give us new perspectives!
Join us today for some real-life stories that shaped the lives of a small-town boy and a big-city suburban boy!
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #12

Welcome to Season 4, podcast #12, and the finale in our four-podcast arc on Equality for All! We have a new Coalition of Inequality here in the U.S. in 2025. How should we think about its emergence? How should we live and act in the face of it, and how should we react to events that may now occur? We’ll share our best Ideal and Picture-driven thoughts! Please join us on Apple, Spotify, and picturesoutthere.com
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #11

Welcome to Season 4, podcast #11, and the third in our four-podcast arc on Equality for All! We chat about how voting Coalitions of Inequality get cobbled together to win elections, why they always fail in time, and the human damage and destruction that is consistently left in their wake. Why have we continued to try a human society of inequality instead of just one time simply trying Equality for All? Please join us on Apple, Spotify, and picturesoutthere.com !
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #10

Equality for All is the right thing to do. Inequality in all of its endless forms, permutations, and coalitions, is just wrong.
But beyond that truth…political, social, and economic systems based on Inequality always end up failing! Yet, as a species, we keep trying some new flavor of Inequality, instead of just simply one time trying Equality for All.
Beyond it being wrong, some simple math also shows us that inequality will never sustainably “work”. It will always fail. Always has, always will!
Please join us as we chat about the Math of Equ...
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #9

We begin a fun and insightful 3-podcast arc on one of our most important Pictures for the future, Equality for All! Why have humans always chosen to create Coalitions of Inequality that have a perfect record of ultimately failing? Why do we choose these coalitions of inequality that leave such immense human damage and misery in their wake every time? Is Equality for All still available for humanity? Is it just waiting for us to try it? Absolutely, and its ultimate triumph over inequality is inevitable! Please join us for some new insights on Apple, Spotify, and picturesoutthere.com<...
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #8

Happy New Year!! As we welcome 2025, Lee and Dave share how our Pictures and our Ideals in unison support and complement each other toward a brighter future. And by just doing our part, simply living our Ideals toward our Pictures helps to harmoniously make all of our Pictures happen! Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com !
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #7

Welcome to the Pictures Out There podcast series with Lee Stuart and Dave Fogleman! This is Season 4, Podcast #7.
Ai is an avalanche of change, and we experience more of that avalanche every single day. What’s our picture for AI, and what are some of the fascinating possibilities? Please join us at Apple, Spotify, and at picturesoutthere.com !
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #6

Welcome to Podcast #6 in Season 4 of the Pictures Out There podcast series! How do we process the results of the recent U.S. elections through the emotional change cycle, and then move forward? Do the results change our Ideals, our values, or our Pictures for the future? When do we actually “win” with our vote? What are our personal reflections that affirm who we each are as we move forward? Join us at Apple, Spotify, and picturesoutthere.com !
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #5

Welcome to Podcast #5 in Season 4 of the Pictures Out There podcast series! Here in the fall of 2024, we lift up and rise up from our tumultuous current events to talk about some incredible things happening in the world of science. It is a gift, and can bring a calming balance to our life, if we keep our eyes on all of the wonderful possibilities for the future that science offers. And there are some truly amazing things going on in the universe of science! Join us at Apple, Spotify, and picturesoutthere.com
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #4

Welcome to our 100th podcast in the Pictures Out There podcast series! We live in a New World of Trust and Truth. Does being trustworthy matter anymore? Does telling and sharing the truth matter anymore? Does it matter in our relationships? In our jobs? In our politics? How do we thrive in this New World? Join us on our exploration of the new world of Trust and Truth, and how we move forward with joy and hope!
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #3

Welcome to Season 4 and Chat #3 in the Pictures Out There podcast series! With the income that we and others receive, our “community of caring” shapes and dictates our public policy and voting decisions. How many of us “live comfortably” today? How many of us could “live comfortably” if we just applied a little math along with a dose of kindness, help, and hope for our neighbors and our larger community?
Please join us on Apple, Spotify, and at picturesoutthere.com !
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #2

Welcome to Season 4 and Chat #2 in the Pictures Out There podcast series! From sports and games to spirituality, our personal sense of our “community” shapes and dictates our lives. Some variation of “love thy neighbor” is core to the largest religions. So who do we think is our “neighbor”? And who is in our own personal “community of caring”…and why? Please join us on Apple, Spotify, and at picturesoutthere.com !
Season 4, Chat with Lee and Dave #1

We’re back! Welcome to Season 4 and Chat #1 in the Pictures Out There podcast series! Community is such an important concept in shaping our pictures, our ideals, and our perspectives. What is the impact of the sports and games that we love on our own personal sense of community? Let’s explore, and have some fun doing it! Please join us on Apple, Spotify, and at picturesoutthere.com !
Season 3, Chat with Lee and Dave #32

Welcome to Season 3 and Chat #32 of the Pictures Out There podcast series! In our last podcast we talked about the joy of all the things that we don’t know or aren’t sure about. So in this life and world of ours, are there things that we absolutely do know? Sure there are! Let’s explore!
Season 3, Chat #31 with Lee and Dave!

After “I love you”, are the most beautiful three words in our language “I don’t know” or “I’m not sure”? Maybe! What are questions where we can joyfully answer “I don’t know” or "I'm not sure"? Let’s explore!
Season 3, Chat with Lee and Dave #30!

Welcome to Season 3 and Chat #30 in the Pictures Out There podcast series! Today we revisit the Equality for All Movement, and talk about Cecilia Payne, America Ferrera, Amanda Gorman, as well as exploring a simple solution for reparations. Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com !
Season 3, Chat with Lee and Dave #29!

Welcome to Season 3 and Chat #29 in the Pictures Out There podcast series! Staying true to your real and true self can be a challenge, but it’s doable. Keeping a sense of humor in even the most difficult circumstances helps. We visit about that and also take a look at some important trends in education, with lifelong learning a key to discovering your real and true self, and then staying true to it! Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat with Lee and Dave #28!

Welcome to Season 3 and Chat #28 in the Pictures Out There podcast series! If you want to think about change, or how to manage or lead change, then you’ve come to the right place. Today, Lee and Dave chat about how we can adroitly drive positive change in our daily life, our jobs, with our families and friends, and within ourselves. Expertly handling, managing, and leading change is important fuel toward really living our own dreams, Pictures, and Ideals! Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat #27 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Season 3 and Chat #27 in the Pictures Out There podcast series. We constantly coach others and are coached by others, in all sorts of settings and venues. There’s coaching in our jobs… With our family or friends… Sometimes with people we’ve just met. Wanna do a little thinkin’ about how best to coach or be coached? You’ve come to the right place, ‘cause we’ve got a few thoughts on that! Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat with Lee and Dave #26

Welcome to Season 3 in the Pictures Out There podcast series and Chat #26. The carbon footprint of the uber-wealthy, groundwater drying up in the U.S., Howard Zinn, Ursula LeGuin, and more… All receive mention and attention today! Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat with Lee and Dave #25!

Welcome to Season 3 in the Pictures Out There podcast series and Chat #25! Humor! The power to make us laugh and to think about the future, our Pictures, and our Ideals… Steven Wright, George Carlin, Fredric Brown, and even a very satirical and amateur attempt at improvisation by Lee and Dave! Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat with Lee and Dave #24!

Welcome to Season 3 in the Pictures Out There podcast series and Chat #24! Houston, homelessness, math, hope, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, opportunities for societal and personal Change, Marie Curie, and more…all receive mention and attention today! Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat with Lee and Dave #23!

Welcome to Season 3 in the Pictures Out There podcast series and Chat #23! The Sporting KC Soccer team, sharing power, real leadership, humility, everyone matters, and more… All receive mention and attention today! Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat #22 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Season 3 in the Pictures Out There podcast series and Chat #22! Our Pictures and Ideals can guide us on how best to respond to even the most difficult public figures we encounter, while keeping our hope and optimism intact. Equality for All, Catch-22, Debbie Dingell, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and more receive mention and attention today, as hope lives on! Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat #21 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Season 3 in the Pictures Out There podcast series, and Chat #21! Curiosity, Listening, Question Asking, Storytelling, and Lifelong Learning... Erich Fromm, Plato, Rick Warren, Sam Gamgee, and more… all receive mention and attention today! Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com !
Season 3, Chat #20 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Season 3 in the Pictures Out There podcast series, and Chat #20! Spirituality and creation… how small we are by ourselves… how big we are when we see our real connections… Carl Sagan, the James Webb Telescope, Kurt Vonnegut, the mud that stands up, and more… all receive mention and attention today! Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com !
Season 3, Chat #19 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Chat #19 of Season 3 in the Pictures Out There podcast series! Everybody present and future gather ‘round, aliens and AI life forms included, and listen to two more wonderful childhood stories from master storyteller Lee Stuart! Lee’s stories will make you cry, make you laugh, and leave you with a lot to think about. Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com !
Season 3, Chat #18 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Chat #18 of Season 3 in the Pictures and Ideals Out There podcast series! In part two of a two-part podcast mini-series, we talk about Dave’s new book Ideals Out There. We describe our simple model for creating your own most satisfying and happiest life by living your Ideals and acting toward your Pictures for the future, with the additional support of the Life Tools that we discuss in this podcast. Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com !
Season 3, Chat #17 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Chat #17 of Season 3 in the Pictures and Ideals Out There podcast series! In part one of a two-part podcast mini-series, we talk about Dave’s new book Ideals Out There. We describe a simple model for figuring out, and then living out, our own most satisfying and happiest life. We can each get there by living our Ideals as we directly act toward our dreams and Pictures for our own desired future, as well as for the future of our world. Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com !
Season 3, Chat #16 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Chat #16 of Season 3, in the Pictures and Ideals Out There podcast series! We talk about the reasons we do these podcasts and books, a Confederate statue in Charlottesville, Nobel Prize winner Claudia Goldin, the Equality for All Movement, the “Out There” Model, and more! We’re optimistic, imaginative, serious, funny, reflective, satirical, and grateful as we chat about topics with connections to Pictures and Ideals Out There concepts. Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat #15 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Chat #15 of Season 3, in the Pictures Out There podcast series! We talk about Worryland, Free Will, the Church of the Nones, Malala Yousafzai, and more…all with special guest Terry Ecklund! We’re optimistic, imaginative, serious, funny, reflective, satirical, and grateful as we chat about topics with connections to Pictures Out There concepts. Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat #14 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Chat #14 of Season 3, in the Pictures Out There podcast series! New news about how humans evolved, what’s the matter with anti-matter, screaming plants, our connections to the whole universe, curiosity, humility, Marcus Aurelius, Maya Angelou, and more! We’re optimistic, imaginative, serious, funny, reflective, satirical, and grateful as we chat about topics with connections to Pictures Out There concepts. Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat #13 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Chat #13 of Season 3, in the Pictures Out There podcast series, with this episode dedicated to Rosalynn Carter. We talk about Narges Mohammadi, Toni Morrison, the guinea worm, Habitat for Humanity, Jimmy Carter, Madeleine Albright, and more! We’re optimistic, imaginative, serious, funny, reflective, satirical, and grateful as we chat about topics with connections to Pictures Out There concepts. Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat #12 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Chat #12 of Season 3, in the Pictures Out There podcast series! We talk about Tom Friedman and AI, an updated Golden Rule, Pandora’s Box, just being there for someone, male loneliness, modern masculinity and feminism, Mark Twain, and more! We’re optimistic, imaginative, serious, funny, reflective, satirical, and grateful as we chat about topics with connections to Pictures Out There concepts. Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat #11 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Chat #11 of Season 3, in the Pictures Out There podcast series! We talk about Howard Stern, Alan Rickman, Ron DeSantis, the American Climate Corps, Unions, Taylor Swift, Mitt Romney, government dysfunction, Barbers Hill, Dalai Lama, Tony Blinken, Einstein, Confucius, special guest Krista Fogleman, and more! We’re optimistic, imaginative, serious, funny, reflective, satirical, and grateful as we chat about topics with connections to Pictures Out There concepts. Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat #10 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Chat #10 of Season 3, in the Pictures Out There podcast series! We talk about False Equivalences, Rufus Sewell, Carl Sagan, Football fans, Mexican Female Politicians, Rolling Stone magazine, the Lord’s Prayer, insurance companies, and more! We’re optimistic, imaginative, serious, funny, reflective, satirical, and grateful as we chat about topics with connections to Pictures Out There concepts. Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com
Season 3, Chat #9 with Lee and Dave!

Welcome to Chat #9 of Season 3, in the Pictures Out There podcast series! We talk about Charlie Chaplin, Albert Einstein, the fear of equality, Stephen Stills, big tech, satire, Ted Cruz, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Solzhenitsyn, lollipop moments, Carl Sagan, and more! We’re optimistic, imaginative, serious, funny, reflective, satirical, and grateful as we chat about topics with connections to Pictures Out There concepts. Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com