Food with Mark Bittman
Former New York Times food journalist and #1 bestselling author Mark Bittman (How to Cook Everything; VB6; Animal, Vegetable, Junk) is joined by co-host (and daughter) Kate to explore all aspects of food – from what to have for dinner, how to raise healthy children, and how to perfect your cooking routine to big picture questions about climate change, sustainability, food policy, and global hunger. Each week, Mark and Kate talk with cooks, celebrities, chefs, farmers, activists, policymakers, and food-lovers about the role of food in their lives, what they love to cook, and the ways that food impacts our society. Plus Mark and...
Fadi Kattan Pays a Loving Tribute to Bethlehem
In this revisiting of a 2024 episode, chef and author Fadi Kattan talks to Mark and Kate about the dangers of simplifying reality; why we should recognize and champion origin, and how doing so is a lesson in humility; the effect the Israeli conflict has had on agriculture; and his cookbook, Bethlehem.
We're sharing two recipes from Bethlehem on the Bittman Project – Fig Salad, and Mujadara – and you can find them here.
https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/fadi-kattans-fig-salad/
https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/fadi-kattans-mujadara/
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Paul Schiefer and Ken Cook: What Makes Amy’s So Unique
Paul Schiefer, President of Amy’s Kitchen, and Ken Cook, President and Co-Founder of Environmental Working Group, talk to Kate and Mark about scaled organic as a sustainability solution; what, specifically, makes Amy’s cooking stand out; how conventional agriculture weakens prices; and making organic easier and more accessible to all.
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Michael Twitty: What, Specifically, Makes Southern Food So Unique
The writer and food historian talks to Kate and Mark about the "secret" language that belongs to Southern people, the problem with fantasizing about your Bubby's recipes, the two-sidedness of Southern cooking, and where to find the best food in the South.
Read an excerpt from Michael Twitty's Recipes from the American South on The Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/bread-so-good-you-have-to-guard-it/
...and get Michael's recipes for Yeast Rolls: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/yeast-rolls/
...and Chicken and Dumplings: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/chicken-and-dumplings/
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Weight Loss: What's Science and What's Pseudoscience?
Journalist Julia Belluz and scientist Kevin Hall talk to Mark about their new book, Food Intelligence: why there's such a big gap between food science and diet fads, how the effects of our 'food environments' determine how much we eat and how much it changes our biology, and how our public outcry over the unjustness of our food system is apolitical—but is made political.
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Nicole Dawes: Brand Building With a Side of Childhood Values
The founder of Late July Snacks and Nixie talks to Mark and Kate about why it's so important to create brands that stand for something meaningful; why she walked away from so many sales opportunities; how her parents' (her father founded Cape Cod Potato Chips and her mother owned a natural food store) beliefs and morals are deeply ingrained in her brands; and being the kid who went on a macrobiotic summer retreat with her mom.
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The Cancerous Elephant in Iowa’s Room
In recent years, the state of Iowa has had the second-highest rate of cancer in the US; it's also one of only two states where cancer rates are increasing. This alarming rise in disease is the crux of a new initiative that is pinpointing agricultural chemicals as a key suspect in this uptick. Today, Mark talks to Adam Shriver, Director of Wellness and Nutrition at the Harkin Institute (and head of the initiative); Richard Deming, who has been a cancer doctor in Iowa for almost 40 years; and factory farm expert Diane Rosenberg.
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Mavis-Jay Sanders and Mark Bittman: Community Kitchen, Part Two!
Mavis-Jay Sanders, Culinary Director of the new nonprofit restaurant Community Kitchen (launching September 19!) and Mark Bittman, Founder of Community Kitchen (and, of course, co-host of this podcast) talk to Kate about how they're bringing awe and joy to their dining room; the specifics around how the team collaborates; the supreme importance of ingredients; and Community Kitchen's potential to showcase what part of a rational food system might look like—and what that could mean for the future.
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Rae Gomes and Mark Bittman: Community Kitchen, Part One!
Rae Gomes, Executive Director of the new nonprofit restaurant Community Kitchen (launching September 19!) and Mark Bittman, Founder of Community Kitchen (and, of course, co-host of this podcast) talk to Kate about the revolutionary restaurant's launch: exactly how they're making top tier chef prepared meals accessible, what success in the self described "money losing" venture would look like, how they managed to hire such a talented and traditional hospitality-oriented staff, how the tiered pricing will work, and what people can expect from the project.
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Andrea and Clara Nguyen: Vegetable-Centric Vietnamese
Andrea Nguyen and her mom, Clara, talk to Mark and Kerri about what it was like coming from Vietnam to the US in 1975, rediscovering how people ate in the past—but doing so with a modern twist, why the Mediterranean diet is problematic, and rice paper gamechangers.
Get Andrea's recipe for Char Siu Roasted Cauliflower on the Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/andrea-nguyens-char-siu-roasted-cauliflower-bong-cai-trang-nuong-vi-xa-xiu/
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What the Hell Is Whole Wheat, Anyway?
Founder and President of Community Grains Bob Klein and biochemist David Killilea—both self-professed "wheat nerds"—talk to Mark about a pioneering study conducted by David that examines whether food labeled as "whole grain" is, actually, whole grain (and which company is actually doing it right); why you're probably not eating actual whole wheat when you think you are; the meaning of "dead wheat"; and why it all matters.
Read the full Whole Grain Study in the Journal of Food Science here: https://www.communitygrains.com/wholegraintest-2/
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Paul Rice: Activism and Patience Go Hand-In-Hand
The founder of Fair Trade USA talks to Mark about why he consciously chose the world of commerce as his vehicle for change—and why it's relatively easy to move companies in the right direction; why the glimpses of future behavior being showcased by Millennials and Gen Zers should be viewed positively; how to dissect conscious capitalism; and how, without being too Pollyanna-ish, we should be taking the long view when it comes to companies making responsible decisions.
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Lelani Lewis: Flipping the Script on Code Noir
In this revisited episode, from last year, the thoughtful and talented chef Lelani Lewis talks to Mark and Kate about why she named her dinner series and cookbook Code Noir, after a monstrous set of French regulations put into effect by Louis XIV; why some island cultures gradually veer towards the cultural homogeneity of the US; why pulling on heartstrings is sometimes the best way; and her showboat recipe.
Get Lelani Lewis’s recipe for Plantain and Pumpkin Curry: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/lelani-lewiss-plantain-and-pumpkin-curry/
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Pooja Bavishi: “You Can’t Get More Americana Than Ice Cream”
The up and coming queen of ice cream talks to Mark and Kate about how her ice cream brand, Malai, mimics her childhood; what it means to build your own culture; sourcing intentionally with no shortcuts—and why having a values-driven business is so important to her; and why her parents are the best people ever (and her #1 fans).
The Bittman Project is featuring three recipes from Pooja Bavishi's book, Malai:
Cold Coffee Milkshake: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/cold-coffee-milkshake/
Chocolate Cardamom Sauce: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/chocolate-cardamom-sauce/
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Why Jason Buechel Is Optimistic About the Future of Our Food System
The CEO of Whole Foods Market and VP Amazon Worldwide Grocery Stores talks to Mark and Kate about growing up as a 4H kid and how that's influenced him; how he's trying to change grocery shopping; how Gen Z is going to shift demand and interest in more sustainable practices; and Whole Foods and MAD Agriculture's new initiative—one that aims to change biodiversity at a macro level and strengthen the long term resilience of the food system.
To read more about Whole Foods and MAD Agriculture's new initiative, head here: https://impact.wholefoods.com/
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Appetite for Change: Letting the Community Lead
Today, we revisit last year's episode with Michelle Horovitz, LaTasha Powell, and Princess Titus, the founders of Minneapolis-based Appetite for Change. The mighty team talks to Mark and Kate about how to use the psychology of a community to create a food system that works for all; passing the torch of food justice to the next generation; and teaching a community to cook.
To get the recipe for the Appetite for Change Coconut Cornbread with Citrus Honey Butter, head to the Bittman Project: bittmanproject.com/coconut-cornbread-with-honey-citrus-butter
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Jenique Jones: Hunger and Poverty Are Policy Choices
The Executive Director of WhyHunger talks to Mark and Kate about how her grandmother’s values and being raised by Civil Rights-era elders shaped her beliefs; how she made the move from charity work to structural change—and why we need both; what it's like being a hopeless optimist; and the most inspirational things she's seen in 16 years of working with marginalized communities.
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How Memories of Her Mother’s Cooking Saved Chantha Nguon’s Life
We revisit an episode from last year, in which the author and cook talks to Kate about what she remembers about fleeing her home in Cambodia at the age of nine, five years before the genocide; why, and how, she decided to reclaim her family's recipes; and what brings her true happiness now.
The recipe mentioned on today's show can be found on the Bittman Project, here: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/chantha-nguons-sour-chicken-lime-soup-village-style-sgnao-chruok-sach-mouan
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David A. Kessler, MD: GLP-1 Drugs and "Re-Learning" to Eat
The author and former commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration talks to Mark about his new book, Diet, Drugs, and Dopamine: The New Science of Achieving a Healthy Weight; why self-control isn't enough when it comes to losing—and keeping off—weight; the problem with 'eat less, exercise more"; and his own personal weight loss journey.
Read an excerpt from DIET, DRUGS, AND DOPAMINE on the Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/diet-drugs-and-dopamine/
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Erik Piepenburg: Gay Restaurants and Why They’re So Important
The journalist talks to Mark and Kate about his book, DINING OUT, which is the first book dedicated to the history of gay restaurants and how they've shaped our culture; why he was reluctant to include his own personal stories—and what convinced him to do so; how the culture has changed over the years, and why; and Mark's gay restaurant tour of 1970s New York City.
Read an excerpt from DINING OUT on the Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/dining-out/
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Ted Genoways: How José Cuervo Marked a Turning Point in Mexico’s History
Journalist Ted Genoways talks to Mark about his book, Tequila Wars: José Cuervo and the Bloody Struggle for the Spirit of Mexico, which is the first biography of Cuervo; about how Cuervo was responsible for the first cartel—and what it was like when cartels were simply business collectives; about how Cuervo saw the future of Mexico; and about why tequila is at the nexus of food and power.
Read an excerpt from Tequila Wars on The Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/how-jose-cuervo-beat-the-odds/
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Ari Kolender, Seafood Master
The chef and author of How to Cook the Finest Things in the Sea talks to Mark and Kate about what to look for when you walk into a fish market—and what to avoid; the myth of "sushi grade" fish; the importance of fish farming; and how to get the crispiest, most delicious fish skin.
The Bittman Project is featuring three recipes from Ari Kolender's new book, How to Cook the Finest Things in the Sea:
Poached Leeks with Gribiche and Smoked Trout Roe: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/poached-leeks-with-gribiche-and-smoked-trout-roe/
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Khushbu Shah and the Art of Improvising
The prolific food writer and cook talks to Mark and Kate about having one foot in two cultures; the auntie whisperer network – or, how Indians in America learned to make do without some of their beloved staples, and how they learned to make do with what was readily available; and why and how the term "fusion" got a dirty rep.
Find the recipe for Khushbu's Masala Smashed Potatoes on the Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/masala-smashed-potatoes/
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What Are the Drinking Trends on a Cruise Ship?
Daniela Oancea, Corporate Beverage Manager for Regent and Oceania, talks to Mark and Kate about how growing up in Transylvania prepared her for hospitality life; how trends have changed on cruise ships, from sobriety to liquor preferences; the rise of solo travelers; and where in the world some of her favorite bars are.
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Hawa Hassan: How Do You Tell More Than a Single Story?
The author and chef talks to Mark and Kate about how and why her personal experiences have prompted her to share the experiences of others; telling a better story of what it means to be displaced; the most harrowing travel experience she had while working on her latest book, Setting a Place for Us; and where to find the best sushi outside of Japan.
The Bittman Project is featuring three recipes from Hawa Hassan's new book, Setting a Place for Us:
Rice Bread: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/rice-bread/
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The Simpsons: Eating Guacamole Off Seabirds
Rob LaZebnik and Jeff Westbrook, co-executive producers on The Simpsons, talk to Mark and Kate about the great joys of writing for Homer; the food-related caveat that got Paul McCartney on the show; Lisa predicting the Trump presidency; and where the inspiration came from for their recent episode—one that focuses on avocados and making fun of pickleball.
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Jamila Robinson: The Food World Deserves a Seat at the Table
The editor-in-chief of Bon Appétit and Epicurious talks to Mark and Kate about how we can—and should—have bigger conversations about food, on par with other entertainment industries; why the best restaurants are like self-portraits; the importance of social courage; and her perfect meal—fried rice and champagne.
The Bittman Project is featuring two recipes from Bon Appétit's Art & Design Issue:
Oyakodon: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/oyakodon/
Red Pepper-Anchovy Toasts: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/red-pepper-anchovy-toasts/
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A Trip to the Dirty Kitchen with Jill Damatac
The writer talks to Mark and Kate about her memoir, Dirty Kitchen; living in the US as an undocumented immigrant for 22 years (and then self-deporting); what it's like to feel rooted in colonial mentality; and a common comforting mechanism of the Filipino immigrant experience.
Read an excerpt from Dirty Kitchen at the Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/dirty-kitchen/
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Yes, Dan Levy Really Is That Great
A revisiting of a beloved episode from two years ago. Mark and Kate talk to the incomparable actor about finding comedy in a "soft" place, eating like a goldfish, love of family, and his disdain for cooking (but not eating).
Get the recipe for Classic Levy Family Egg Salad on the Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/classic-levy-family-egg-salad/
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Rick Martinez's New Book Changed the Way He Cooks
Writer and cook Rick Martinez talks to Mark and Kate about parental inspiration; being a cheesecake-obsessed teen; how Mexican-Americans are pigeonholed, culinarily; how and why he relocated from New York to Mazatlan; and his new book, Salsa Daddy.
The Bittman Project is featuring two recipes from Rick's book, Salsa Daddy:
Breakfast Tacos: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/ricks-breakfast-tacos/
La Mañanera (The Morning Salsa): https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/la-mananera-the-morning-salsa/
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Vanessa Lavorato: An Edible Journey
The author, of How to Eat Weed and Have a Good Time, talks to Kate and Holly about how she got deep into the heart of making and selling cannabis goodies, how we can learn from her mistakes (and what some of them are!), one food that cannabis should probably not go into, and why she wanted to write a "safe" weed cookbook.
Get Vanessa's recipe for Hot Honey Firecrackers on the Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/hot-honey-firecrackers/
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Cory Booker May Represent Our Best Possible Future
In this revisiting of a 2022 episode, Mark talks to one of our most forward-thinking Senators about Big Food's long standing capability of corrupting food policy, the possibility of real change, why a Twinkie is cheaper than an apple, and how we can find our way back to regional food systems.
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Mark on the Good Citizen Podcast, with Ted Roosevelt V
In an interview on Ted Roosevelt V's Good Citizen Podcast, Mark talks about how his career went from tenant organizing to food, why taking junk food away—a la MAHA—is not a fix for the bigger issues at hand, the lifespan of all the grains we grow in the US, and why no one understands the Farm Bill.
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Ted Genoways: Human Trafficking + the Meatpacking Industry
The journalist talks to Mark and Kate about his latest reporting, which focuses on allegations of human trafficking at a JBS meatpacking plant in Greeley, Colorado. The viral TikTok video that started it all, the thousands of Haitian migrants in the crosshairs, and how JBS' HR department saw it as a positive thing. Plus, what it's like to report such an emotional story.
Want to listen to Ted's reporting on Greeley? You can do that here: https://revealnews.org/podcast/immigrants-on-the-line/
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What Is It Really Like to Be a Black Farmer in the US?
Revisiting a (still quite relevant) episode from 2023: Kathleen Finlay, president of Glynwood, and Mark talk with Black Farmer Fund co-founders Olivia Watkins and Karen Washington about the special, specific challenges facing Black farmers; who the food system "belongs" to; and how to combat the inherent racial injustices in the US food system, notably as applied to farmers.
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Laurie Woolever: Batali, Bourdain, and All the Nuance
The writer—and ex-Mario Batali employee and assistant to Anthony Bourdain for a decade—talks to Kate about how (and if) kitchen culture has changed since the early-aughts heydey; why she never felt like a victim; her new memoir, Care and Feeding; and how Anthony Bourdain put people at ease—and why people loved him so much.
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Sutton Foster on Evolving Into a Good Eater
In a rerun from 2021, the Broadway star talks to Kate about a complex mother-daughter relationship—and the therapeutic nature of writing a memoir, coming up in the worlds of acting and food, and crocheting for Hugh Jackman.
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Julian Baggini: How the World Eats
The philosopher and journalist talks to Mark about why the big picture surrounding food confuses people, and what we can do to remedy that dynamic; what surprised him most in his research around the global food landscape; and 'food citizens' vs 'food consumers.'
Read an excerpt from Julian Baggini's new book, 'How the World Eats,' on the Bittman Project: https://bittmanproject.com/how-the-world-eats/
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At Michele Norris's Home, the Kitchen Takes Center Stage
In this rerun from 2024, acclaimed journalist Michele Norris talks to Mark about how she came to start her podcast, Your Mama's Kitchen; the standout moments in her (amazing) career; and how she preps for meals 30 days ahead.
View this episode's recipe here: https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/michele-norriss-zucchini-bread/
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Alton Brown Looks Back
The writer, chef, and TV star talks to Mark and Kate about fame, "then" and now; the problem with memory—and memoir; falling up the stairs; his farewell tour; and eating on the road, monastically.
Head to the Bittman Project for a special excerpt from Alton's new book, Food for Thought: https://bittmanproject.com/alton-brown-meals-that-made-me-part-i/
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Food Addiction and the Path to Real, Positive Change
Professors—and ultraprocessed food experts—Ashley Gearhardt and Kelly Brownell join Mark and Kate to talk about why the robust new science about food and addiction is going to be hard to ignore, how junk food could take the path of cigarettes and opioids with regards to litigation (and how tobacco paved the way), and why marketing these foods to kids is so successful (and the many reasons why kids are so important to focus on).
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