The Drop

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A running podcast from Believe in the Run, The Drop is brought to you by hosts Thomas Neuberger, Robbe Reddinger, and Meaghan Murray. But this isn't your typical running podcast– we'll talk about running (of course), but also discuss a wide range of topics, from pop culture to pigeons (not real) to picking up trash here in Baltimore. We also interview elite athletes, industry insiders, musicians, coaches, and more. Follow along as we also discuss our own running highs and lows, as well as our favorite shoes and gear.

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472 | Hoka Tecton X 4, Summer GRIT Recap With Ranch Dressing
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Last Friday at 9:00 AM

Turns out that Thomas doesn't like ranch dressing, which would get you excommunicated from Guy Fieri's cruise line in a matter of minutes. No worries, you can head over to Estes Park and hang with him and Taylor as they take on the trails in the upcoming Hoka Tecton X 4, improved in all the right places over the last version. Congrats again to all our Summer GRIT participants, and to the winner Connor Bessell who racked up a marathon a day!


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The Dirt Division E041 | Budget Trail Running Kit, Hoka Tecton X 4, Believe Basecamp
The Dirt Division E041 | Budget Trail Running Kit, Hoka Tecton X 4, Believe Basecamp episode artwork
08/05/2026

This week, Alex posed a challenge to pick out a budget-friendly trail running kit. They give insight on how to shop, things to look for, etc. Outside of that conversation they talk about about a special Rocky Mountain mission for Taylor and Thomas as well as the upcoming Hoka Tecton X 4.


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E471| Josh Kerr (Re-Release)
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08/03/2026

We watched Josh break the world-record last month, and we went back and listed to our original conversation with him back in 2023. It's worth a re-release. We hope you enjoy.


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He won the 5th Avenue Mile two weeks after he took down Jakob Ingebrigtsen on the sport's biggest stage, outkicking him en route to a world title in the 1500m. And now he's a guest on the greatest podcast in history of the universe. So yeah, you could say it's been a whirlwind of a month for Brooks...


E470 | Hylo Impact 2, Obsession, Bring Back Buttons
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07/31/2026

Be careful what you wish for, or your girlfriend might love the Boston Marathon more than anything else in the whole world. In our case, we're already obsessed with running so we can't get any crazier. We recap GRIT standings before dipping into our experience driving an electric car and wishing we had knobs and buttons again. We also preview the Hylo Impact 2, a new version of the daily trainer offered from the London-based brand.


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The Dirt Division E040 | Obsessed July, Asics MetaFuji Trail 2 (ft. Dr. Jason Tso & Dr. Malene Lindholm)
The Dirt Division E040 | Obsessed July, Asics MetaFuji Trail 2 (ft. Dr. Jason Tso & Dr. Malene Lindholm) episode artwork
07/29/2026

Alex, Reese, and Taylor talk about what they are obsessed with in the month of July. Everything from minivans, to horses, to stack heights was fair game. They wrap up their conversations with early imperessions of the upcoming Asics Metafuji Trail 2.


Guest: Reese chats with Dr. Jason Tso and Malene Lindholm who are conducting a study at Stanford that's focused on common genetic markers for endurance performance.


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469 | New Balance SC Rebel v1, Thomas vs. the White Mountains, Kerr Goes Krazy
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07/24/2026

What a week for running as Josh Kerr does the unthinkable in breaking the mile world record. Thomas also does the unthinkable by attempting the Presidential Traverse in adverse conditions, but manages to make it out alive with some stories to tell. We also run down the New Balance SC Rebel v1, an all-new super trainer coming in August for $200.
ASICS GRIT PARTY DETAILS
What: 3-mile group run followed by after party
When: Saturday, July 25 @ 11:30 a.m. (3-mile group run, after party starts at 12)
Where: Hampden Yards, 3601 Hickory Ave, Baltimore, MD 21211
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The Dirt Division E039 | Brooks Cascadia 20, Trail Gear Trends, The Presi (ft. Sean Van Horn)
The Dirt Division E039 | Brooks Cascadia 20, Trail Gear Trends, The Presi (ft. Sean Van Horn) episode artwork
07/22/2026

Western States and Hardrock are over. Hear the Dirt Division's thoughts on gear-related trends between the two events as well as trends in trail running gear in general this year. Alex and Taylor then talk about the Brooks Cascadia 20 and Taylor's wild ride in the White Mountains with Thomas and the Mount to Coast crew.



Guest: Sean Van Horn is a mountain runner from Colorado who has experienced all ends of the spectrum as an athlete. Not too long ago he was gunning for world records. More recently, health scares have...


468 | Blue Benadum - R.A.D
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07/20/2026

Thomas and Meg sit down with Blue Benadum from R.A.D to talk about their lineup as well as his extensive history in the business, starting with his days at Nike.


467 | Topo Athletic Specter Elite, Tracksmith Eliot Ryder
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07/17/2026

We got flooded houses, dead fish in the harbor, wildfires, and grit. And we say to ourselves, what a wonderful world. July is throwing a tempter tantrum but it's all been made easier with some fantastic shoes in the way of the Topo Athletic Specter Elite and the Tracksmith Eliot Ryder. We're also looking forward to the annual Summer GRIT party, which is happening next weekend here in Baltimore at Hampden Yards. Hope to see you there!


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The Dirt Division E038 | The North Face Offtrail Ultra, Recovery pt. 2 (ft. Tommie Runz)
The Dirt Division E038 | The North Face Offtrail Ultra, Recovery pt. 2 (ft. Tommie Runz) episode artwork
07/15/2026

Reese, Alex, and Taylor first lay out their thoughts on the upcoming North Face Offtrail Ultra. Then, they round out their conversation on recovery, which inevitablyturns macro before getting to some of the gear that they use regularly for it.Guest: Tommie Runz has become a well-known runner due to his inspiring story and "stay ready" attitude. Hear about his experience getting into trail running and how this led to some of his most challenging (and rewarding) running experiences yet.

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E466 | On Headquarters in Zurich, Western States Recap
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07/10/2026

The team has reassembled back in Baltimore, but it's been a whirlwind of the past two weeks as our running adventures took us everywhere from Western States 100 to the headquarters of On and Paris fashion week. We're tired but we're here, so that's gotta count for something.
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The Dirt Division E037 | Norda 055, Recovery (ft. Arc'teryx Athletes Kyle Richardson and Jane Maus)
The Dirt Division E037 | Norda 055, Recovery (ft. Arc'teryx Athletes Kyle Richardson and Jane Maus) episode artwork
07/08/2026

The Dirt Division trio first mulls over one of the most anticipated shoes of the year, the Norda 055. Then, they dive into a two part conversation about recovery.


Guest: Jane Maus and Kyle Richardson are true mountain athletes. They talk to Taylor about their draw to such terrain, background that led them there, and what it means to be supported by Arc'teryx.


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E465 | Wei-En Chang, JANUARY Founder
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07/06/2026

Thomas speaks with Wei-En Chang, the founder of JANUARY, a rising running shoe brand. Their first model coming to market is the Signal, their daily trainer.


E464 | Instagram Q&A, The World Cup, Summer GRIT, The Norwegian Method
E464 | Instagram Q&A, The World Cup, Summer GRIT, The Norwegian Method episode artwork
07/03/2026

Thomas and Meg are en España this week, so Robbe, Karl, and Brady came off the bench to fill their boots. They talk through the World Cup, the Norwegian Method of producing athletes, and even touch on the exorbitant number of Oreo flavors. They answer some listener questions from Instagram and celebrate the beginning of GRIT to round it out.JOIN US FOR SUMMER GRITRegistration for Summer GRIT is right around the corner. If you want to join the challenge, improve your base fitness, and see what you're made of, you can join here: https://runsignup.com/Race/M...


The Dirt Division E036 | Western States 2026 (ft. Kilian Jornet and Elhousine Elazzaoui)
The Dirt Division E036 | Western States 2026 (ft. Kilian Jornet and Elhousine Elazzaoui) episode artwork
07/01/2026

Alex, Taylor, and Maria (Believe in the Run's VIP) just returned from Western States. Even though they are sleep deprived, they talk about their experience at Western States.


Guest: Nnormal athletes Kilian Jornet and Elhousine Elazzaoui chat with Taylor about running in the USA, Nnormal's team, as well as a sneak peek of an upcoming Nnormal Prototype shoe that Kilian used during Western States.


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E463 | Pre-Western States Weekend with Max Jolliffe
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06/26/2026

In the midst of a busy trail packed week with Broken Arrow, TrailCon, and Western States, Max Jolliffe stopped by the BITR Tahoe HQ to chat about the week so far, his upcoming race at Badwater 135, and dissecting a little bit more of the aftermath of the Satisfy Circle Pit.


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The Dirt Division E035 | The Great American Trailapalooza (ft. Aeres Reading)
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06/24/2026

It's that time of year again. Taylor headed out to what he is coining as, "The Great American Trailapalooza". He, Reese, and Alex talk about what happens during the ten day span of Broken Arrow Skyrace, Trailcon, and Western States. Taylor, also gives a first-hand account of his experience at Broken Arrow with Nike ACG. Then, Taylor talks to Aeres Reading, a trail racing young gun, who will be living, breathing, and sleeping trail running as a Trail House athlete.


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E462 | Drew Magaha - Mizuno Running
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06/22/2026

Thomas and Meaghan sit down with Drew Magaha, Product Manager for Mizuno USA, to talk through his running history and what the brand has in store. The gang have been running in Mizuno shoes this year that are getting green lights across the board, so keep an eye out!


E461 | Brooks Hyperion Elite 6, Topo Specter 3, Strava Sober, Western States and TrailCon
E461 | Brooks Hyperion Elite 6, Topo Specter 3, Strava Sober, Western States and TrailCon episode artwork
06/19/2026

It's gonna be a busy next few weeks, so the crew locks in for an hour and a half of running talk (not really), before maybe wishing things were a little bit simpler at times. But hey, life is good becasue you're here with us. Summer is here and GRIT is coming up, so let's have some fun. We also cover our experiences in the really-fantastic Topo Athletic Specter 3 and Brooks' best race day shoe to date, by far.


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The Dirt Division E034 | Would You Rather (ft. Mason Coppi)
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06/17/2026

The Dirt Divison plays a game of would you rather with some questions that have a direct tie to running and some that clearly don’t.


Guest: Mason Coppi has been quietly crushing on both the trails and occassionally the roads. Just in 2026 he became a USATF Trail Running Champion and qualified of the US Olympic Trials in the marathon. Taylor checks in with him as he recently signed as a Vibram athlete.


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E460 | R.A.D Mallow, World Cup Experts, Baltimore 10 Miler Recap, Sweet Tea Brady
E460 | R.A.D Mallow, World Cup Experts, Baltimore 10 Miler Recap, Sweet Tea Brady episode artwork
06/12/2026

The World Cup is coming, so who better to talk about it than three runners who don't watch soccer? We do run, so we recap Meg's bloody experience at the Baltimore 10 Miler and Brady pissing iced tea at a 100 mile race in Ohio. We also cover the R.A.D. Mallow, another really great entry into the $150 running shoe range.


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The Dirt Division E033 | Obsessed
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06/10/2026

This week the crew touches base on some gear and ideas that they are "obsessed" with. Their answers come with unsurprising range and do include some of their favorite pieces of gear right now.


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E459 | Emily Abbate - Host of Hurdle Podcast
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06/08/2026

Thomas chats with Emily Abbate, host of Hurdle podcast at the Spotify Studios in NYC.


E458 | Puma Deviate Pure Nitro, Air Fryers, Robot Massages, Puppetry
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06/05/2026

Carbon-plated super shoes or air fryers or robot leg massagers, it's hard to know which is a better invention. We talk about all of those this week, as well as the cult of puppetry and Meg's fairly fresh pair of New Balance SC Trainer v1. And then there's Puma's newest shoe, the Deviate Pure Nitro.


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The Dirt Division E032 | Post Race (ft. Rachel Entrekin, Norda Athlete)
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06/03/2026

How do you feel after finishing a big race or objective? Listen in our The Dirt Division's glorified therapy session on how to deal with life after racing. They also discuss some of their favorites, suprises, and gear they are excited about so far in 2026.


Guest: Rachel Entrekin won the Cocodona 250 outright which is just another major mliestone for her first full year as a professional runner. She is sponsored by some of our favorite brands in the indurstry. She chats about her background as PT, favorite gear, mindset around racing, and much more.<...


E457| Charlie Rodman - Whiskey Connoisseur
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06/01/2026

We have a large library of shoes. Charlie has a large library of whiskey. He was kind enough to bring his collection to Baltimore, so on this episode of the podcast we hear Charlie's story while doing a live tasting. Things get..."melty".


E456 | Asics Novablast 6, Enhanced Games Lame, Lyrics and Liner Notes
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05/29/2026

Okay, Robbe is back and we're done talking about circle pits. But it's controversy season so we cover the Enhanced Games and everything that did or didn't go down with that. Plus, the Baltimore race that almost was (should we bring it back?) and a water conservation question that we need to be answered. Oh, also the Asics Novablast 6 is a pretty great shoe.


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The Dirt Division E031 | Drop Bags
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05/27/2026

The Dirt Division trio chats about drop bags this week. Do you use them? What are necessary items? What can you do without? Prior to that, listeners requested Reese's take on Satisfy Circle Pit which, inevitably, dove into grander topics of life.


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E455 | Behind the Scenes: Adidas x SATISFY Circle Pit
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05/22/2026

Thomas and Taylor went to the now infamous Adidas x SATISFY Circle Pit. If you haven't heard of it, you were probably enjoying a long run and some time outside. While you were taking care of your physical and mental health, the Circle Pit took the internet by storm, brewing up some intense opinions. On this episode, Thomas talks through his experience, and the rest of the gang talk through what went wrong and what could have made it land better.


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The Dirt Division E030 | Circle Pit
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05/20/2026

Taylor just returned from what was easily the most unique running experience of his life. He and Alex talk about what the Satisfy x Adidas Circle Pit (think running meets backyard bowl jam meets metal concert) was all about, what it was like to be there, and even the ongoing conversations about the event.


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E454 | Sharon Lokedi - Professional Runner for UA, Olympian, 2x Boston Champion
E454 | Sharon Lokedi - Professional Runner for UA, Olympian, 2x Boston Champion episode artwork
05/18/2026

Meg and Thomas sit down with Sharon Lokedi at Under Armour's HQ to talk about her recent Boston win, borrowing someone's watch, enjoying downtime and extra sleep, and a whole lot more.


E453 | Cocodona Analysis, Citius Mag Hotline, Kevin Hart Roast, Street Fights
E453 | Cocodona Analysis, Citius Mag Hotline, Kevin Hart Roast, Street Fights episode artwork
05/15/2026

Some amazing things went down at Cocodona, so we cover those from the road runners perspective, before diving into a wide ranging conversation regarding Sara Hall's new book (as well as other books), roasts of comedians and runners, and getting pepper sprayed in the face in Deep Ellum. Plus, more details on Summer GRIT and our contest to join us at Western States with Hoka.


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The Dirt Division E029 | Cocodona pt 2 (ft. Adam Copeland, Tantrums Founder)
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05/13/2026

Description: The trio talks about Cocodona. This time, it is after Alex has finished the race in under 100 hours! She gives us insight on her adventure as she is still processing the whole experience.Guest: Adam Copeland is the founder of Tantrums, a pack company that disrupted our favorite gear lists list year. While their flagship design, the Crest 6, still holds as one of the highest performing packs, there are new products on the horizon.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS:Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best...


E452 | Brooks Hyperion Max 4, Spirit (Not) In The Sky, Cocodona Calling
E452 | Brooks Hyperion Max 4, Spirit (Not) In The Sky, Cocodona Calling episode artwork
05/08/2026

It's been an unruly ride, but it's time to say bon voyage to Spirit Airlines. While we're mourning that, we still found time to run in the Brooks Hyperion Max 4 and Ghost Max 4. Still, not nearly enough miles as our trail reviewer Alex, who is currently at mile 211 at the Cocodona 250 (at the time we're writing this). We talk about all that and more in this week's edition of The Drop.


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The Dirt Division E028 | Cocodona (ft. Brandon Crouch, Salomon)
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05/06/2026

Description: Alex took on the challenge of Cocodona 250. Yes, a 250 mile race across the Arizona desert. She talks with Taylor and Reese who have some concerns and questions on motivation, tactics, and gear.


Guest: Brandon Crouche is the Product Merchandiser for Salomon North American. Taylor and Brandon talk about his career at Salomon, the development of the GRVL product, and how it all fits into the broader scope of Salomon as a brand.


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E451 | Dave Hashim - Professional Photographer
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05/04/2026

Thomas sits down with Dave Hashim, professional photographer, runner, and friend of the podcast. To see Dave's work, you can find him on Instagram at @dhash.


E450 | A Historic Day at the London Marathon
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05/01/2026

On Sunday, the sport of running and the art of marathoning was forever changed as Sebastian Sawe ran the first-ever official sub-2-hour marathon. He wasn't the only one to do it, of course, and they both ran in the Adidas Adizero Adios Pro Evo 3, the lightest race day shoe ever at 99 grams. We give our thoughts on the race and the past and future of footwear, as well as plenty of other running (and non-running discussion).


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The Dirt Division E027 | Canyons 100K by UTMB
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04/29/2026

Alex and Taylor girll Reese after her first 100k finish! Reese just ran the Canyons 100k by UTMB, one of the most competitive races in North America. They talk travel, race strategies, and of course gear.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS:Only for Drop listeners, SOAR is giving away $300 in gear and apparel to TWO lucky winners. Their apparel is the best in the industry and their 1-Month Guarantee allows you to shop with total peace of mind – run for 1 month in your new apparel – test it in full – and if you’re still not satisfied you can return it, used, for a fu...


E449 | 130th Boston Marathon Weekend Recap
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04/24/2026

One if by land, two if by sea, twenty-six-point-two if by running from Hopkinton to Boston. We had a full weekend of activities from our Mount to Coast movie night to the Boston 5K to the New Balance Team Relay to the massive Adidas x Heartbreak Hill shakeout run. Also, a race on Monday as Meg went hard on the hills for the 130th edition of the Boston Marathon. We recap it all in this episode, so thank you to everyone who showed up and made it such a memorable weekend.


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The Dirt Division E026 | Heat pt 1 (ft. Andrew Bumbalough)
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04/22/2026

Alex, Reese, and Taylor sit down for a multi-session chat about heat. It effects us all differently and there are ways to combat it and prepare your body for the demands of running when it's hot.


Guest: Andrew Bumbalough is the Product Line Manager for Nike ACG. He sets a few things straight for the sub-brand and talks about their current and future investment into the trail running and outdoor space.


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