The Drop
A running podcast from Believe in the Run, The Drop is brought to you by hosts Thomas Neuberger, Robbe Reddinger, and Meaghan Murray. But this isn't your typical running podcast– we'll talk about running (of course), but also discuss a wide range of topics, from pop culture to pigeons (not real) to picking up trash here in Baltimore. We also interview elite athletes, industry insiders, musicians, coaches, and more. Follow along as we also discuss our own running highs and lows, as well as our favorite shoes and gear.
483 | Asics Gel Slowcush, Nike Apex, Taco Bell 50K
Russia has a plague problem, New York has a cheer zone problem, and Thomas apparently has no problem eating his way through ten Taco Bells in 11 hours. This week Thomas, Meg, Robbe and Karl get into NYRR’s new rules for run club cheer zones (RIP confetti cannons), the run club that cleared $640K in a year, Altra’s Legacy Team of runners aged 75 to 85, and Skechers’ new Aero Elite race shoe (machine washable, naturally). Thomas also shares his first impressions of the Nike Apex and SwooshFly, and we put the Asics Gel Slowcush and the Mizuno Sky Prime on the...
The Dirt Division E049 | Trail Racing Shoes, Seasons Changingft. Dakota Jones and Brianna Corremonte
Johnny and Alex help Taylor sort out his thoughts and decisions after a successful trail season. Does he push forward with more racing or does he settle in for winter to work on goals for next year? Then, they chat about the new Veja Harpie, a simple trail shoe with a sustainable focus. Of course, there’s a mix of story telling and nonsense in the mix too.Guest: Dakota and Brianna prepare for two monumental tasks: 1. Running around the Great Salt Lake and 2. Raise awareness for changing climate and living conditions in the area. Alex talks about logistics, mo...
482 | Berlin Marathon & Adidas HQ Recap
Thomas and Karl went big in Berlin, running a marathon around the city on a warm race morning. Before that, they swung by the Adidas HQ to look at some wild innovations and cutting edge technologies coming from the brand. Also, they led hundreds of runners through a shakeout run on Saturday, the biggest event on race weekend outside of the marathon. Needless to say, it was busy. Needless to say, they are tired. But they're still standing (in their Adios Pro 5).
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The Dirt Division E048 | Inov8 Trailfly Pro ft. Dirt Division Reviewer Johnny Dodgin
Alex and Taylor are joined by long time friend of the show and now Dirt Division reviewer, Johnny Dodgin! He has an extensive background in endurance sport, marketing, product development, and art that make him a prime example of a gear nerd. Among many other topics, they discuss the Inov8 Trailfly Pro that Johnny had a major role in bringing to life.
481 | Nike Alphafly 4, Adidas Adios Pro 5, Guardian Caps
We have some big shoes in today to talk about (with a couple of side quests on the NFL's guardian caps and Instagram Plus). In today's episode, the Nike Alphafly 4 and Adidas Adios Pro 5 take the stage.
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The Dirt Division E047 | Running Belts, Social Avoidance, Kiprun Kipsummit Race (ft. Tina Muir)
Running belts have taken a huge lap in performance over the last few years. Taylor and Alex give a rundown on which ones they like, the different offerings, and why you just might want to grab a belt over a pack. They also chat about a suprise race day shoe, the Kiprun Kipsummit Race.
Guest: Tina Muir is an athlete and environtmental advocated in the running space. She wears a lot more hats than that, even! Tina and Taylor talk about their experience at UTMB that includes concerns, promising measures, and ideas for the...
480 | Ben Morrow and Bit Klecker (Miler Running)
Thomas sat down with the folks at Miler (Ben Morrow and Bit Klecker) to talk life, business, and their latest venture: the Metropolitan Trail Racing team. The team made their debut this past weekend at Grindstone by UTMB, and it was a strong showing right out of the gate. In the 21K, Bit Klecker took first for the women, Grant finished 2nd and Drew 7th on the men's side, and in the 50K Ben crossed in 22nd while working back from an injury. Not a bad way to announce yourselves.Learn more about the team here: https://milerrunning.com...
479 | Mud Pies, We Are Scientists, Wading Water and Surfing Clouds
We're no hybrid rockstars, but then again we've never left a mud pie on course. We're also not scientists, or are we? Who knows. We discuss way too many topics on this episode of The Drop, ranging from mishaps to ultrarunning camming to brand new updates to the Believe in the Run website. Also, we cover the all-new On Cloudsurfer 3.
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The Dirt Division E046 | Pandaprank Orbis, Coaching, Midwest Things (ft. Meg Eckert)
Alex and Taylor talk this week about coaching and some things to consider whether you're on the hunt for one or not. First, Alex tests Taylor to see if he is a true midwesterner. They end with a chat about a brand new trail shoe, the Pandarprank Orbis.
Guest: Meg Eckhert just broke the world record for distance covered over 6 days! The Mount to Coast athlete, teacher, and wife gives us some insight on her preparation for such a feat.
478 | Sydney Marathon and the Sickness
Meg just picked up her 7th major marathon in Sydney, but it came with a side of sickness that almost left her in Los Angeles. She's mostly back to normal, enough to recap her journey to the other side of the Earth. We cover that, as well as the Asics Sonicblast 2 Sunrise Edition.
Thanks to Asics for the support over the past couple weeks, and to everyone that said hello from down under.
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The Dirt Division E045 | Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed Ultra Evo, UTMB, and more
Buckle up for all the rabbit holes. Taylor and Alex recap the last couple weeks of trail madness including UTMB, family vacations, bike mishaps, and gear they have been enjoying.
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477 | UTMB Recap, The Speed Project (Chamonix), Neighborhood Cleanup
Thomas and Karl are back from Chamonix while Meg is somewhere in the skies above the Pacific. They recap the full UTMB experience, from hot dogs to haute couture in the French Alps.
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476 | Alex Arslan, Hylo Athletics
Thomas and Meg interview Alex Arslan of Hylo Athletics to discuss his upbringing in the footwear industry and the new daily trainer from Hylo Athletics, the Impact 2.
475 | Live from Chamonix, MCC Recap
Thomas, Taylor, and Karl come to you from the Alpina Hotel in the heart of Chamonix during UTMB week with Hoka. Thomas and Taylor recap their epic race at MCC.
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The Dirt Division E044 | UTMB, Leadville, Norda 000 (ft. Hans Troyer)
August is THE month of trail running. Many of the most prolific races happen during this time and it is prime peak bagging season. Taylor and Alex talk about UTMB, Leadville, and an the new Norda x Black Diamond collaboration which includes the Norda 000.
Guest: Hans Troyer is a Hoka athlete who has gained a large following through amazing performances but mostly because of his genuine likeable character. They chat about his first time in Europe, some takeaways from Wester States, and his outlook on his upcoming race, CCC.
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474 | Nike Pegasus Plus 2, Falmouth Recap, Ramen and Hot Dogs
The Megs ran the Falmouth Road Race with Asics while Thomas tapped into his culinary side with some hot dog ramen (sounds delicious). We also dive into the Nike Pegasus Plus 2, which features an all new Air Zoom unit in the forefoot.
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The Dirt Division E043 | Mount to Coast M1, Strava, and E-Bikes (ft. Jared Smith, Hoka PLM)
Taylor and Alex dig into multiple topics this week including their personal tendencies when it comes to Strava, thoughts on E-bikes, and wrap up with a conversation about the new Mount to Coast M1.
Guest: Jared Smith is Hoka's Senior Product Line Manager. He and Taylor talk about his history with Hoka, the current "technical" terrain lineup that includes the upcoming Tecton X 4, plus insight about the return of the Evo Speedgoat and more.
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473 | Most Overrated and Underrated Running Shoes of 2026 (So Far), Blood Doping, It's It Ice Cream
We don't have a shoe to highlight this week, so we thought we'd give you our picks for the most overrated and underrated running shoes of 2026 (so far). Meg also gives her top 5 picks for race day shoes, which may surprise you. We also discuss the latest blood doping scandal in running and Thomas proposes a novel idea to catch them if you can. Plus- shout-out to It's-It ice cream sandwiches for giving Thomas core childhood memories.
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The Dirt Division E042 | Merrell, Beast of Big Creek, & Coffee
Long time trail reviewer, Sam Edgin, joins Alex and Taylor this week to talk about his experience at The Beast of Big Creek with Merrell...after they talk about coffee that is. Sam gives insight on the event, beta on an upcoming 2027 Merrell trail shoe, and much more.Näak Nutrition: The Drop Listeners can get 15% off any Näak products by using code BITR15. Näak is a nutrition brand the leverages natural ingredients and research backed formulas to help athletes perform. They have a host of products like gels, drink, mixes, broths, bars, and recovery fuel. Their hig...
472 | Hoka Tecton X 4, Summer GRIT Recap With Ranch Dressing
Turns out that Thomas doesn't like ranch dressing, which would get you excommunicated from Guy Fieri's cruise line in a matter of minutes. No worries, you can head over to Estes Park and hang with him and Taylor as they take on the trails in the upcoming Hoka Tecton X 4, improved in all the right places over the last version. Congrats again to all our Summer GRIT participants, and to the winner Connor Bessell who racked up a marathon a day!
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The Dirt Division E041 | Budget Trail Running Kit, Hoka Tecton X 4, Believe Basecamp
This week, Alex posed a challenge to pick out a budget-friendly trail running kit. They give insight on how to shop, things to look for, etc. Outside of that conversation they talk about about a special Rocky Mountain mission for Taylor and Thomas as well as the upcoming Hoka Tecton X 4.
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471 | Josh Kerr (Re-Release)
We watched Josh break the world-record last month, and we went back and listed to our original conversation with him back in 2023. It's worth a re-release. We hope you enjoy.
From the original episode:
He won the 5th Avenue Mile two weeks after he took down Jakob Ingebrigtsen on the sport's biggest stage, outkicking him en route to a world title in the 1500m. And now he's a guest on the greatest podcast in history of the universe. So yeah, you could say it's been a whirlwind of a month for Brooks...
470 | Hylo Impact 2, Obsession, Bring Back Buttons
Be careful what you wish for, or your girlfriend might love the Boston Marathon more than anything else in the whole world. In our case, we're already obsessed with running so we can't get any crazier. We recap GRIT standings before dipping into our experience driving an electric car and wishing we had knobs and buttons again. We also preview the Hylo Impact 2, a new version of the daily trainer offered from the London-based brand.
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The Dirt Division E040 | Obsessed July, Asics MetaFuji Trail 2 (ft. Dr. Jason Tso & Dr. Malene Lindholm)
Alex, Reese, and Taylor talk about what they are obsessed with in the month of July. Everything from minivans, to horses, to stack heights was fair game. They wrap up their conversations with early imperessions of the upcoming Asics Metafuji Trail 2.
Guest: Reese chats with Dr. Jason Tso and Malene Lindholm who are conducting a study at Stanford that's focused on common genetic markers for endurance performance.
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469 | New Balance SC Rebel v1, Thomas vs. the White Mountains, Kerr Goes Krazy
What a week for running as Josh Kerr does the unthinkable in breaking the mile world record. Thomas also does the unthinkable by attempting the Presidential Traverse in adverse conditions, but manages to make it out alive with some stories to tell. We also run down the New Balance SC Rebel v1, an all-new super trainer coming in August for $200.
ASICS GRIT PARTY DETAILS
What: 3-mile group run followed by after party
When: Saturday, July 25 @ 11:30 a.m. (3-mile group run, after party starts at 12)
Where: Hampden Yards, 3601 Hickory Ave, Baltimore, MD 21211
Who: You and...
The Dirt Division E039 | Brooks Cascadia 20, Trail Gear Trends, The Presi (ft. Sean Van Horn)
Western States and Hardrock are over. Hear the Dirt Division's thoughts on gear-related trends between the two events as well as trends in trail running gear in general this year. Alex and Taylor then talk about the Brooks Cascadia 20 and Taylor's wild ride in the White Mountains with Thomas and the Mount to Coast crew.
Guest: Sean Van Horn is a mountain runner from Colorado who has experienced all ends of the spectrum as an athlete. Not too long ago he was gunning for world records. More recently, health scares have...
468 | Blue Benadum - R.A.D
Thomas and Meg sit down with Blue Benadum from R.A.D to talk about their lineup as well as his extensive history in the business, starting with his days at Nike.
467 | Topo Athletic Specter Elite, Tracksmith Eliot Ryder
We got flooded houses, dead fish in the harbor, wildfires, and grit. And we say to ourselves, what a wonderful world. July is throwing a tempter tantrum but it's all been made easier with some fantastic shoes in the way of the Topo Athletic Specter Elite and the Tracksmith Eliot Ryder. We're also looking forward to the annual Summer GRIT party, which is happening next weekend here in Baltimore at Hampden Yards. Hope to see you there!
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What: 3-mile group run followed by after party
When: Saturday, July 25 @ 11:30...
The Dirt Division E038 | The North Face Offtrail Ultra, Recovery pt. 2 (ft. Tommie Runz)
Reese, Alex, and Taylor first lay out their thoughts on the upcoming North Face Offtrail Ultra. Then, they round out their conversation on recovery, which inevitablyturns macro before getting to some of the gear that they use regularly for it.Guest: Tommie Runz has become a well-known runner due to his inspiring story and "stay ready" attitude. Hear about his experience getting into trail running and how this led to some of his most challenging (and rewarding) running experiences yet.
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E466 | On Headquarters in Zurich, Western States Recap
The team has reassembled back in Baltimore, but it's been a whirlwind of the past two weeks as our running adventures took us everywhere from Western States 100 to the headquarters of On and Paris fashion week. We're tired but we're here, so that's gotta count for something.
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The Dirt Division E037 | Norda 055, Recovery (ft. Arc'teryx Athletes Kyle Richardson and Jane Maus)
The Dirt Division trio first mulls over one of the most anticipated shoes of the year, the Norda 055. Then, they dive into a two part conversation about recovery.
Guest: Jane Maus and Kyle Richardson are true mountain athletes. They talk to Taylor about their draw to such terrain, background that led them there, and what it means to be supported by Arc'teryx.
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E465 | Wei-En Chang, JANUARY Founder
Thomas speaks with Wei-En Chang, the founder of JANUARY, a rising running shoe brand. Their first model coming to market is the Signal, their daily trainer.
E464 | Instagram Q&A, The World Cup, Summer GRIT, The Norwegian Method
Thomas and Meg are en España this week, so Robbe, Karl, and Brady came off the bench to fill their boots. They talk through the World Cup, the Norwegian Method of producing athletes, and even touch on the exorbitant number of Oreo flavors. They answer some listener questions from Instagram and celebrate the beginning of GRIT to round it out.JOIN US FOR SUMMER GRITRegistration for Summer GRIT is right around the corner. If you want to join the challenge, improve your base fitness, and see what you're made of, you can join here: https://runsignup.com/Race/M...
The Dirt Division E036 | Western States 2026 (ft. Kilian Jornet and Elhousine Elazzaoui)
Alex, Taylor, and Maria (Believe in the Run's VIP) just returned from Western States. Even though they are sleep deprived, they talk about their experience at Western States.
Guest: Nnormal athletes Kilian Jornet and Elhousine Elazzaoui chat with Taylor about running in the USA, Nnormal's team, as well as a sneak peek of an upcoming Nnormal Prototype shoe that Kilian used during Western States.
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E463 | Pre-Western States Weekend with Max Jolliffe
In the midst of a busy trail packed week with Broken Arrow, TrailCon, and Western States, Max Jolliffe stopped by the BITR Tahoe HQ to chat about the week so far, his upcoming race at Badwater 135, and dissecting a little bit more of the aftermath of the Satisfy Circle Pit.
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The Dirt Division E035 | The Great American Trailapalooza (ft. Aeres Reading)
It's that time of year again. Taylor headed out to what he is coining as, "The Great American Trailapalooza". He, Reese, and Alex talk about what happens during the ten day span of Broken Arrow Skyrace, Trailcon, and Western States. Taylor, also gives a first-hand account of his experience at Broken Arrow with Nike ACG. Then, Taylor talks to Aeres Reading, a trail racing young gun, who will be living, breathing, and sleeping trail running as a Trail House athlete.
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E462 | Drew Magaha - Mizuno Running
Thomas and Meaghan sit down with Drew Magaha, Product Manager for Mizuno USA, to talk through his running history and what the brand has in store. The gang have been running in Mizuno shoes this year that are getting green lights across the board, so keep an eye out!
E461 | Brooks Hyperion Elite 6, Topo Specter 3, Strava Sober, Western States and TrailCon
It's gonna be a busy next few weeks, so the crew locks in for an hour and a half of running talk (not really), before maybe wishing things were a little bit simpler at times. But hey, life is good becasue you're here with us. Summer is here and GRIT is coming up, so let's have some fun. We also cover our experiences in the really-fantastic Topo Athletic Specter 3 and Brooks' best race day shoe to date, by far.
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The Dirt Division E034 | Would You Rather (ft. Mason Coppi)
The Dirt Divison plays a game of would you rather with some questions that have a direct tie to running and some that clearly don’t.
Guest: Mason Coppi has been quietly crushing on both the trails and occassionally the roads. Just in 2026 he became a USATF Trail Running Champion and qualified of the US Olympic Trials in the marathon. Taylor checks in with him as he recently signed as a Vibram athlete.
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E460 | R.A.D Mallow, World Cup Experts, Baltimore 10 Miler Recap, Sweet Tea Brady
The World Cup is coming, so who better to talk about it than three runners who don't watch soccer? We do run, so we recap Meg's bloody experience at the Baltimore 10 Miler and Brady pissing iced tea at a 100 mile race in Ohio. We also cover the R.A.D. Mallow, another really great entry into the $150 running shoe range.
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