The Drop
A running podcast from Believe in the Run, The Drop is brought to you by hosts Thomas Neuberger, Robbe Reddinger, and Meaghan Murray. But this isn't your typical running podcast– we'll talk about running (of course), but also discuss a wide range of topics, from pop culture to pigeons (not real) to picking up trash here in Baltimore. We also interview elite athletes, industry insiders, musicians, coaches, and more. Follow along as we also discuss our own running highs and lows, as well as our favorite shoes and gear.
The Dirt Division E019 | How We Review (ft. Max King)
The Dirt Division has reviewers around the country. This week we chat about the “art” of reviewing. Hear about our approach to building a profile and our opinions about each shoe we review.Guest: Max King has had a long illustrative career in trail running, and it continues with the support of Kailas Fuga. Most recently he took on the challenge of the Barkley Marathons.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!LMNTSlim cans are our life, right now. It contains half of the original LMNT recipe with 500mg of sodium and adds some bubbles to the mix. If you prefer the original pack...
438 | Live from the On Lightspray Factory
Thomas interviews Olivier Bernhard and Caspar Coppetti, On Co-Founders, and Scott Maguire, On's Chief Innovation Officer, on the floor of On's new Lightspray factory in South Korea. Topics include the conception of the factory, the new Lightspray Cloudmonster 3 Hyper, and how innovation in automation is driving the brand forward.
437 | New Balance Ellipse, Jared & Jarrett, Looksmaxxing & Peptide Stacking
Thomas and Karl are checking out the all-new On Lightspray factory in South Korea, so we test a new and incredibly confusing format with Wide Foot Jarrett and Normal Foot Jared. We still manage to keep it unhinged, covering everything from jogging strollers to peptide stacking and a converation about cotton and sweat.
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The Dirt Division E018 | Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed, Why You SHOULD Run and Ultra (ft. Erin Ton)
This week, the crew talks about the flip side of the coin - reasons why you SHOULD run ultras. Then, they talk shop about the Hoka Speedgoat 7 as it compares to the beloved Speedgoat 4 Evo.
Guest: Taylor chats with Teva Beureau of Adventure athlete, Erin Ton. Her life is all about adventure. She has the most FKT's of any woman in the world and has recently recorded the fastest time on one of the world's Seven Summits.
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436 | Hylo - Live in London
Thomas and Robbe sit down with Hylo CEO Jacob Green and Chief Product Officer Jorma Seabourne to share the story of how Hylo came to life, where the brand is headed next, and what truly sets their product apart — all with a healthy dose of classic British humour along the way. Tune in for an honest, behind-the-scenes conversation you won’t want to miss.
Check out Hylo: https://hyloathletics.com/
435 | Adidas Archives in Nuremberg, Last of London, Witches & Ravens
Thomas and Karl return from their addended trip to the Adidas HQ in Germany where they delved into the footwear archives. We wrap up our final two days in London. We wonder about witches and whey. All of us may be suffering from jet lag, so bear with us.
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The Dirt Division E017 | Nike ACG Ultrafly, Why You SHOULDN'T Run an Ultra (ft. Terignota)
Alex brought a juicy topic to the group this week. They went round robin on reasons NOT to run an ultra. Then, they chat about some of their initial thoughts on the Nike ACG Ultrafly.
Guest: Terignota is a trail running apparel brand that has blown up over the past year. Found, Alex King, and Taylor chat about the quick trajectory, what makes Terignota special in a saturated space, and more.
434 | Andy Baddeley, Olympian, The Running Channel
Andy Baddeley is a father, an Olympian, a co-founder of the Running Channel, and the previous parkrun world record holder. Thomas and Andy talk about what it was like competing compared to now, the team at The Running Channel, and many other topics in this episode of The Drop.
Check out The Running Channel here:
https://therunningchannel.com/
433 | London Field Trip with Hylo, Delta One Mishaps, Platform 9 3/4, West Ham
The gang is across the pond on today's episode. In store: Hylo, Delta One mishaps, English breakfast, and really terrible impressions. From West Ham to Platform 9 3/4, this one has it all, folks.
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The Dirt Division E016 | Sacrifice, Adidas Terrex Agravic TT (ft. Christian Allen)
Taylor, Alex, and Reese jump right in this week with topics ranging from personal philosophies on eating food off of the ground to personal stitches. They also chat about the Adidas Terrex Agravic TT as well as sacrifices they are willing to make for races depending on duration and terrain.GUEST: Nike ACG’s poster child, Christian Allen, joins Taylor to talk about his versatility as an athlete, faith, and his big goals in 2026.
432 | Nick Harris-Fry, The Run Testers
Nick Harris-Fry from The Run Testers joins Thomas for this episode of the Drop to talk all things running shoes, YouTube, The Run Testers, and for the first time ever, we do a live review of the Hoka Cielo X1 3.0.
431 | Donna Marathon Weekend & Winter GRIT Party Recap
The team went down to Florida and brought the coldest temperatures in a hundred years along with them for The Donna Marathon Weekend. We recap our races and the Winter GRIT party and our time at Waffle House, among many other things. Thanks to everyone that came out, we had an amazing time despite the unseasonable temps.
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The Dirt Division E015 | Hoka Speedgoat 7, Race day shoes pt. 1 (ft. Cade Michael)
This week, the Trail Trio discusses considerations for choosing race day footwear - which proves to be much more difficult to come to a consensus than one would think.
Guest: Cade Michael is an up and coming trail runner who has taken some big swings this past year! He’s looking to improve on those results and continue to establish himself as one of the USA’s top prospective athletes in 2026.
430 | Nikhil Jain - Brooks Running, Live From The Running Event 2025
Nikhil Jain is the Director of Footwear Product Line Management at Brooks Running. Thomas and Meg had the opportunity to talk all things Glycerin Flex with him at The Running Event.
429 | Hoka Cielo X1 3.0, Listener Questions, Best/Worst Marathon Medals
We're bringing the listeners into the mix as we answer a handful of questions, including our picks for best and worst marathon medals. We also recap our snow day(s) here in Baltimore and Alex Honnold doing weird things on tall buildings before covering the just-released Hoka Cielo X1 3.0, a lighter and even more energetic race-day shoe.
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Dirt Division E014 | Merrell Agility Peak 6, Treadmills (ft. Kila cofounder Cole Zucker)
Taylor and Reese prepare themselves for gross winter weather to hit by trading thoughts about the treadmill. Likewise, they chat about the upcoming Merrell Agility Peak 6.
Guest: Cole Zucker is the founder of Kila, an insole company that's built on the premise of run performance. Taylor and Cole talk about Cole's background in the lighting industry and how his experiences helped launch Kila.
428 | Adidas Evo SL Woven, Move Her Mind Summit, Jumping Beans & Chicken Pox
Meg is back from the Move Her Mind Summit (and podium finish at the Rose Bowl Half), so we get a recap of all of that. Meanwhile, Thomas took some R&R in Charleston while Robbe got into some weird Baltimore stuff as usual. We also cover jumping beans, chicken pox, dark web stuff, and more, including the Adidas Prime X Evo and Adidas Evolution.SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!PILLARRecently, we’ve been taking PILLAR Triple Magnesium, and it’s been a game-changer for our sleep and recovery. WE take it about 30 minutes before bed each night which gives us grea...
Dirt Division E013 - TNF Altamesa 500 v2, Desert miles (ft. Teva Athlete, Michael Wardian)
Reese is on assignment in Arizona to check out the course for her upcoming race, Black Canyon 100k. She gives the details on her trip, her training, and even a GOAT sighting on the trail. Taylor and Reese then try to sort out the whole "gravel running" conversation and talk about if it's a worthy category to get excited about.Guest: Teva athlete Michael Wardian returns to the show to catch up with Taylor. They mull over a bunch of topics ranging from his busier-than-ever schedule, Burrito League, sandals, and his upcoming world record attempt of 7x50k in 7...
427 | Mizuno Neo Zen 2, Houston Recap, Brad Pitt Glazing, and More
The first rule about The Drop is that you don't talk about The Drop. Mostly because your friends will think less of you. On this episode, we give a hagiography of Brad Pitt, Robbe tries to trap a mouse, and we cover all the exciting stuff that happened at the Houston Marathon last weekend. We almost lost one of our listeners, but luckily a doctor was on hand to bring him back to us. Thankful for that and for you if you're still reading this. Eventually we get around to the Mizuno Neo Zen 2, a fine update to an...
The Dirt Division E012 | Speedland GS:BLK, Burrito League, and Crewing (ft. Chris Myers)
Alex returns this month with a genuine question about selecting your crew for ultras. The trio also chat about the hot topic of January, The Burrito League, and the newest comission in the Speedland lineup, the GS:BLK.
Guest: Chris Myers is a Brooks and Runderwear athlete who has mixed up with the best of the best on the trails. He and Taylor talk a little bit about but even more on other topics like his underwear preferences, the Brooks Cascadia Elite, and his views on personal growth in the sport. Chris also gives some top-notch crewing...
426 | Yowana Wamala, Founder of Supwell Running
Yowana Wamala is the founder and CEO of Supwell.
Find him on Youtube here: https://youtube.com/@supwell?si=SHRm0oeTUDQxVw7z
425 | Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 4, Truett Hanes OTQ, Awful Geography, Roast My Strava
It's been a few weeks since we've been in studio, so there's been plenty of stuff brewing that we needed to get out. We focus on the trivial, from the lack of cigs in Stranger Things to Maduro's Nike fit to Sage Canaday's beef with unnamed hybrid athlete Truett Hanes. Also, we talk about the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 4, which has taken a big leap forward from the previous version.
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The Dirt Division E011 | Scott Kinabalu Trail, Winter Break/New Year (ft. TJ and Ian of 7Mesh)
The duet is back together after an extended year end vacation. They chat about a range of topics from their holiday’s, gas stations, to their post-mortal preferences. Of course, they talk about trail running a with the upcoming Scott Kinabalu Trail and what they look forward to in 2026.Guest: 7Mesh is a high-performance clothing brand that started the way many high-quality brands begin. TJ and Ian, cofounders of 7Mesh, saw a hole in the market for performance tuned all-conditions cycling gear. Their experience and expertise (former Arc’teryx CEO and designer) in the industry helped them create some of t...
424 | Holiday Roundup Part 2 - 2025 Recap
In Part 2 of our Holiday Series, we’re recapping the year that was. We kick things off in Miami with HOKA, then roll through an action-packed spring—Kenya, Boston, London, the Move Her Mind Event Series, Western States, #Breaking4 in Paris, welcoming Taylor Boding officially to the team, Worlds in Tokyo, Thomas’ trip to China, Chicago, NYC, and so much more.Thank you all for supporting us every step of the way this year. We’re excited for what’s ahead in 2026.
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423 | Molly Seidel, Trail Runner & Olympic Bronze Medalist
I mean, it's Molly freakin' Seidel, Olympic bronze medalist and all-around great person who is now a certified trail runner with a whole slate of off-road adventures lined up in 2026. We talk about that, but we also dive into mysterious vortexes, magic minerals, and her favorite shoes right now.
Follow Molly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bygolly.molly/
422 | Holiday Part 1 - The Marathon Project Recap
We’ve got a lot to unpack as we close out 2025, starting with a deep dive into Meg’s experience at The Marathon Project—from travel chaos to racing in the Nike Proto. We also break down our favorite shoes, gear, and brands of the year, plus share some listener and viewer stats to round things out.
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The Dirt Division E010 | 2025 Reflecitons
Reese and Taylor take the time to reflect on a big 2025. First they chat about the new Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed Ultra 2 and then dive into the deep end of 2025 where they talk about everything from the idea of time itself to skin care routines.
421 | Nicholas Thompson, Author & CEO of The Atlantic
As CEO of The Atlantic, father of three boys, and age group record holder for the 50K, Nick Thompson has a lot on his plate. That includes writing a new book, The Running Ground, one of our most favorite running books in recent memory. Part memoir and part love letter to the sport, it explores the ups and downs of life and the thread of running through it all. Robbe talks to him about all of that and more in this episode of The Drop.
Pick up The Running Ground: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com...
420 | Puma Magmax Nitro 2, Meg and The Marathon Project, Taylor Swift's Giving
Happy E420 from the team! While we didn't ingest anyting to celebrate, we did go stream of consciousness on this episode. From Jimmy Eat World to the Army/Navy game to Meg's pre-race sickness, Baltimore had a lot going on this weekend. Speaking of races, Meg is headed out to Arizona to run the Marathon Project in a very special prototype. We also talk about The Running Ground, overzealous soccer parents, Taylor Swift's generosity, and Kim Conley's incredible comeback at the 2012 Olympic Trials. Finally, we end up covering the Puma Magmax Nitro 2, a great max cushion trainer that can...
The Dirt Division E009 | Trail Running in Winter (ft. Sophia Laukli)
Taylor, Reese, and Alex (long time BITR contributer) chat about running during winter. Love it or hate it, we all still need to move in the colder months of the year. What adjustments do you make to still get out? Topics of travel, nutrition, gear, training approaches, and more are all packed into this episode.
Guest: Sophia Laukli is a multi-sport pro for Maurten and Salomon. She has cross country skied her whole life and still does so at an elite level. Trail running is a more recent endeavor in which she quickly rose to being one...
419 | Kiprun - Live from the Running Event
Thomas and Robbe sat down with Kiprun's CMO Julien Vancauwenberghe and Product Lead Pierre-Emmanuel Gaillard to chat about their entrance into the US next year, including what shoes you'll be able to purchase in April.
418 | The Running Event Recap
We went deep into the heart of Texas with nearly 6,000 other runners as we took over San Antonio for the The Running Event 2025. Over the course of three days, we lined up over 40 meetings to gather all the intel we could about running shoes, apparel, gear, and nutrition. This is our report of that event, as well as a full recap of our experience at the Rainforest Cafe. It's a long one, but well worth it.
Limited spots remain for Winter GRIT! Get in today: https://www.believeintherun.com/grit
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The Dirt Division E008 | TRE Recap (ft. Anna Gibson)
The Dirt Division met up with the Baltimore Crew down in San Antonio to check out all that's to come in 2026. Listen to their observations of trends, what they are excited about, and the inevitable stories that come out of such a weekend.Guest: Anna Gibson is one of the best that the US has to offer. The US Olympic Trials qualifier on the track just just wrapped up an epic year of trail with world-class results at Golden Trail Final and World Mountain Running Championships. Taylor and Anna chat about her relationship with sport, Grand Canyon rafting, coffee...
417 | Andy Wacker, Founder of The Trail Team
Andy Wacker is a professional runner from Boulder, Colorado who run roads, track, trails at an elite level. He also wears many other hats in the running world including directing an elite trail running development team. Taylor and Andy talk about all of that and more.
Follow Andy on Instagram: @wackera
416 | Brooks Glycerin Flex, Thanksgiving Weekend Highlights
We’re headed off to TRE, but first we recap our Thanksgiving weekends including turkey trots and family fun. Eventually, we talk about our experience in the Brooks Glycerin Flex, a daily trainer with an ultra flexible midsole.
Glycerin Flex: https://www.brooksrunning.com/en_us/glycerin-flex.html
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We crushed nearly a dozen Maurtens each for the JFK 50 Mile race, finishing strong without bonking. Stock up for your own fall ra...
The Dirt Division E007 | Holiday gifts for Trail Runners & Love Languages (ft. Dan Green)
If you're anything like Taylor and Reese, you're hard to buy gifts for. They are here helping us all out whether you're a trail runner or getting something for a trail runner. We have reviewed a lot of gift-worthy gear this year. Here are some of our favorites in all price categories.
Guest: Dan Green has had a major year of trail running with a race calendar and results that any trail runner would dream of! The Maurten/ Salomon pro talks about how he got into running in the first place, his rise to an elite...
415 | Andy Wynne, Founder of Nuyarn Merino
Robbe talks with Andy Wynne, founder of Nuyarn, leading the way in Merino technology. It's a deep dive into one of our favorite materials on earth.
Learn more about Nuyarn: https://nuyarn.com/
Check out our guide to running in Merino: https://believeintherun.com/gear-reviews/merino-wool-guide-for-winter-running/
414 | JFK 50 Mile Recap, Winter GRIT 2026, Mount to Coast x BITR H1
Thomas and Robbe recap all the ups and downs of their traverse through the JFK 50 Mile race, which turned out to be much better than their initial test run of the trail portion. Also, Winter GRIT registration opens at 9 a.m. TODAY (November 28), so make sure you get in on it before it sells out! Plus, we just announced our first ever shoe collab with Mount to Coast, which comes out in Spring 2026. Register for Winter GRIT: https://www.believeintherun.com/grit
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The Dirt Division E006 | Post JFK, Tim Tollefson
Reese gives the full recap on an epic day at the historic JFK 50 miler with the Believe in the Run Crew.
Guest: Tim Tollefson is on the Drop for the second time. This time, he's wearing his race director's hat. Taylor and Tim talk about the challenges and privileges of hosting an event like Mammoth Trailfest.
413 | Michael Doughty, Founder of Hylo Athletics
Robbe talks with Michael Doughty, founder of Hylo Athletics, about his vision for the brand, his life as a premier league footballer, and much more.
Check out Hylo Athletics: https://us.hyloathletics.com/Follow Hylo Athletics on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hyloathletics