REL Freedom Podcast

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By: Mike Swenson

Helping people working in all areas of the real estate industry find financial freedom. Join us as we interview the top minds in the industry to see how they used real estate in all ways, shapes and forms to find their own financial freedom. Whether you're a real estate agent, a real estate investor, a real estate syndicator, or you have a business inside of real estate, we want to highlight how you're using it to build time and financial freedom. Want to be a guest on REL Freedom? Contact us at mike@relfreedom.comJoin Our Community at http://AgentInvestorMastermind...

Mike Swenson - Our New 24 Unit Apartment Purchase
#280
Last Thursday at 3:00 PM

We're excited to share our newest 24 unit apartment purchase with you! We'll cover how we found the deal, what we liked about it, the breakdown of all the numbers, how we financed it, what we like about the location, and the future opportunities this deal opens up, and some of our biggest challenges. If you want to learn more about how you can get invested into these types of deals, let us know!

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Vince Gethings - $100M AUM & Owns 6 Businesses
#279
04/30/2025

Vince Gethings is the founder of Villanautics, LLC, a real estate acquisition company, and in total has over $100M in assets under management. He also owns 6 businesses, which include insulation, flooring, and property management companies. Vince also has over 15 years of leadership experience in the US Air Force, holds a Green Belt in LEAN Six Sigma Process Improvement, and is a licensed contractor in the state of Michigan. Outside of work, he's a private pilot, world traveler, husband, and father to 3 children.

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Micah Nicholes - Closing Deals With Probate Leads
#278
04/24/2025

Micah Nicholes is the President of US Lead List, which helps to provide pre-probate lead lists to real estate agents, brokers, wholesalers, and investors. His goal is to maximize your lead budget by providing high-quality leads that turn into closings, and giving you the best ROI on your marketing dollars. In addition to US Lead List, Micah is in investor that has properties in Southwest Wisconsin. 

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Brandon Barnum - Lessons Of A Serial Entrepreneur
#277
04/17/2025

After 10x'ing his income from 20k to 200k in 18 months as a single dad, Brandon Barnum dedicated his life to empowering others to grow their income, influence, and impact. As a serial entrepreneur, he's created 10 different tech platforms, and led the development of the world's first personality-based AI for sales. Known as the "King of Referrals", Brandon has devoted his life to helping people thrive through connection and community. He's the CEO of HOA.com and the bestselling author of the Raving Referrals book series. He is on a mission to create a world where business grows through love...


Sam Silverman - The Freedom Framework
#276
04/10/2025

Sam Silverman is the founder of Silverman Capital and host of the Freedom Framework Show. Having started his career in sales, he took on leadership roles, then managing teams, and started closing multi-million dollar deals. Looking for something more, and wanted to create more impact to help others, he moved over to real estate investing and raising capital. With a focus on building relationships, creating wealth, and solving complex financial challenges, Sam's expertise has made him a trusted partner for investors and operators alike. 

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Frank Iglesias - Battle Tested Real Estate Lessons
#275
04/03/2025

Like many people, Frank Iglesias had a pivotal moment in his career after encountering the book Rich Dad Poor Dad. He came to the conclusion that there had to be a better way to invest. After getting bored, Frank decided to quit his IT job and jump full-time into real estate. He evolved from simpler buy and hold deals, got into wholesaling, and then fix & flips. As he gained more experience he also got into new construction projects. His unwavering determination and ability to overcome adversity has led him to create a level of success that is battle-tested in...


Eric Burns - Firefighter Turned Investor
#274
03/27/2025

Armed with a degree in Finance, Eric Burns joined the Cincinnati Fire Department. Serving for 17 years, and serving as a Lieutenant, he decided he wanted to build a side hustle for after his career was over. He got started in real estate investing in 2013. After working hard to build his own portfolio, he found out he just created another job for himself that was difficult to scale. He then turned to syndication and capital raising as a way to get out of the day to day and allow larger and experienced operators to handle that while he found investors...


Elijah Iung - Farming & Apartment Investing
#273
03/20/2025

Elijah Iung has a very diverse background being a serial entrepreneur. He's started 4 different small businesses, each bringing great experience to help him with the next business. Hailing from Michigan, Elijah currently owns a farm and multiple apartment buildings. In addition, he's currently serving on a mission in Seattle for 2 years. Hear Elijah share his amazing story and all the great lessons he's learned along the way.

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Tara Zaluski - Rebuilding Homes & Lives At The Same Time
#272
03/13/2025

Growing up with challenges that could have broken Tara Zaluski, she decided to use them as a foundation to building a better future. After having trauma that left her with PTSD, a concussion, and over a year of physical therapy, Tara found the strength to fight for a better future for herself and for her 2 kids. She's learned every aspect of construction and property management, which has allowed her to rebuild homes & lives in the Pittsburgh area, including her own, through her company RTZ. 

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Jacobo Hernandez - Specializing In Short Term Rentals & Boutique Hotels
#271
03/06/2025

After scaling a 7-figure Amazon business in college, to spending on $1M on PPC ads, Jacobo took his transferable skills & passions to real estate, where he quickly built a $10M short-term rental portfolio in South Florida. Now expanding to boutique hotels, Jacobo is also the author of the book "Short-Term Rental Secrets" where he shares his top knowledge to help others looking to scale into the the short-term rental space.

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Bree Hartman - From Gym Owner To Self-Storage
#270
02/27/2025

Bree Hartman was a successful gym owner, but after attending a self-storage conference, she decided it was time to jump in with both feet into real estate. In her first 12 months she acquired 2 self-storage facilities, and operates across Sacramento, Louisiana, Tennessee, the Carolinas, and the Sunbelt States. She is also the founder of Self Storage School, where she helps investors and W2 employees find, fund, and buy their first cash-flowing self-storage facility. Her 5 year goal is to own 12 facilities by June 2029, while remotely managing non-manned locations and working just 20 hours per week.

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David Sidoni - Specializing In A Desperately Underserved Group - First-Time Homebuyers
#269
02/20/2025

After seeing how the real estate industry was screwing over first-time homebuyers, David Sidoni decided to take action. While most real estate teams give the first-time homebuyer clients to their newest agents, because they "take more time" and "ask a lot of questions", David decided to focus his niche on serving this group. He has been helping first-time home buyers since 2006. He's also created an educational platform to empower and educate this group of people. He is also the host of the How To Buy A Home Podcast, the #1 place for renters to find the answers they are looking...


DeVante Blow - Turning His Last $50 Into A Thriving Real Estate Career
#268
02/13/2025

DeVante Blow is a powerhouse in the real estate world, who turned his last $50 into a thriving career as a top-producing agent and team leader. With the COVID shut downs, DeVante transitioned from the restaurant industry into real estate in 2020, where he continues to hit new ceilings of achievement each year. He is the author of the book "Just One Layup", devised to help people find success in the real estate industry. Outside of real estate, DeVante enjoys pickleball, skydiving, and music.

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Mike Swenson - Is Airbnb Still Worth It? Short-Term vs. Long-Term Rentals
#267
02/06/2025

In this episode, our host Mike Swenson, who manages 4 short-term rentals, dives into the ongoing debate: Is Airbnb still a profitable investment, or are long-term rentals the smarter choice? We break down market trends, profitability, and legal challenges that could impact your decision. Learn about the costs, management differences, and risks of each strategy, plus a financial comparison to help you maximize cash flow. We also explore hybrid strategies like mid-term rentals and the future of short-term stays. Whether you're a new or seasoned investor, this episode will give you the insights you need to decide which rental model...


Tim Woodbridge - From Nurse To Mobile Home Park Investor
#266
01/30/2025

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After being a nurse for 9 years, Tim Woodbridge read Rich Dad Poor Dad and knew his future was about to change. Armed with his superpower of taking action, Tim was able to acquire $15M in mobile home parks in 3 years, which allowed him to retire from his nursing job to pursue real estate investing full-time. Hear how Tim was able to ditch his W2 & get into real estate investing full-time to change his life, and the lives of his investors.

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Mike Swenson - Top 5 Real Estate Investing Tips for 2025
#265
01/23/2025

What does 2025 hold for real estate investing? 2025 may prove to be a pivotal year in the real estate investing space. Interest rates are still higher than hoped. Deals are tough to come by and get to pencil out. Insurance costs seem to keep going up. However, don't let that stop you from hitting your goals for your family's financial future. The deals you find this year may turn out to be some of the gems in your future portfolio. So don't give up! Make this year an amazing year on your investing journey. Join me for a great conversation...


Ryan Twomey - 500 Units in 4 Years
#264
01/16/2025

Ryan Twomey is the co-founder and Managing Partner of TR Capital Partners, a real estate investment firm with ownership in over 500 Units. Ryan started in financial services before transitioning into a role as an operations analyst for the parent company of the NYSE. He decided to purchase cash-flowing real estate starting in 2021 and quickly pivoted to commercial real estate, specifically apartment buildings, where he found the most efficient path to financial freedom. He quit his day job and started pursuing real estate full time. He now lives a life by design, choosing to work when he wants, and spending...


Mike Swenson & Mike Gengler - Analyzing Our 146 Unit Apartment Purchase
#263
01/09/2025

Do you want to know what to look for in analyzing a deal and when a deal looks good enough to move forward? Join us as we break down one of our best deals that we've taken on, how we found it, what was most appealing about it, what our future plan is with it, and where things are at today. This was a 146 unit property that we closed in July of 2024 in southern Minnesota.

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Scott Harris - Selling $1.5 Billion In Real Estate
#262
01/02/2025

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Scott Harris is a dedicated real estate professional passionate about helping people find their purpose and passion through residential real estate. He is the founder of the Harris Residential Team, in which he has sold over $1.5 billion in residential real estate in New York City. Scott has developed a knack for sales, entrepreneurship and understanding people's stories. This has shaped his people-first approach to real estate, which inspired him to write the book The Pursuit of Home, and start a podcast with the same name. 

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Mike Swenson & Mike Gengler - How To Invest In Real Estate With An IRA
#261
12/26/2024

Did you know that you can use an IRA to invest in real estate? This is a secret that real estate investors have been using for years to build their wealth. In this episode we discuss how you can take an IRA and turn it into a self-directed IRA that can be used for real estate investing. Whether you have a lot of money saved up in an IRA or not much, you can unlock this powerful tool today. Download our eBook to get all of the information you need here: https://www.relfreedom.com/invest

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Nathan St Cyr - Turning 1 Star Motel Into #1 Small Hostel In North America
#260
12/19/2024

Nathan is the co-founder of Malama Capital & host of The Hotel Investor Playbook, a podcast that shows how to buy and operate award-winning hospitality properties. Nathan's goal is to turn a $400,000 investment into a $400 Million Hospitality Based Business. With his business partner, they were able to take a 1 star motel located in Hawaii and turn it into the #1 small hostel in North America. His true passion is in team building and helping others become the best versions of themselves. Born in MN, he has made Maui his home for the last 29 years. He's a dedicated husband and father of...


Mike Swenson & Mike Gengler - How To Invest In A Real Estate Syndication
#259
12/12/2024

Many people want to get started investing in real estate, but may not have enough money to get a property themselves, nor do they want to take on a property themselves. Today we cover how people can invest in a real estate syndication with minimal money down, while not having to manage the property themselves, and they get to leverage the experience of full-time real estate professionals. We discuss the benefits of investing in real estate vs other investment options & when a real estate syndication could be a great fit for a real estate investor. We also cover what...


Amelia Misenheimer - Real Estate Investor & World Traveler
#258
12/05/2024

Amelia Misenheimer bought her first rental in 2010 with a down payment from a stock she bought years prior. After working in the oil & gas industry for a couple of years after college, she moved back to New Mexico and started a property management firm and bought that first property. She grew the firm to over 450 properties and worked with over 100 property owners. She bought a real estate brokerage and managed several Realtors. In 2021 she met her husband and moved with him overseas to England, which prompted her to sell her companies and transition to helping others do what she...


Jordan Berry - Laundromat Investing
#257
11/28/2024

Jordan Berry was a pastor for 15 years and decided to buy a laundromat as he transitioned out of full-time miniwhta stry. His experience did not get off to a good start. Instead of replacing his salary, he lost $2,000/mo for over a year. In his quest to find other laundromat owners & operators to advise him, he couldn't find much out there. This drove Jordan to create Laundromat Resource as an education and community platform for laundromat owners and future owners to learn, share best practices, and connect with each other so that others don't have to go through what...


Michael Matthew - Investment Across Borders
#256
11/21/2024

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Michael Matthew, CPA, CA has over three decades of experience as a professional accountant and has carved out a niche of specializing in guiding Canadians through the intricacies of real estate investments both in Canada and the United States. Michael earned his Bachelor of Arts in Honours Chartered Accountancy Studies from the prestigious University of Waterloo. Michael is the author of "Eh To Zen Real Estate: Peace Of Mind Strategies For The Canadian Investor", which offers investors a roadmap to navigate the complexities of cross-border real estate...


Catherine Bell - Be The Bank & Rent Dirt
#255
11/14/2024

Catherine Bell is an engaging radio show host, captivating speaker, acclaimed author, and astute financial expert. Growing up in the foster care system, Catherine did not have things handed to her as a child. She eventually was adopted as a teenager and made her way to the United State at the age of 26. Knowing that the average millionaire has 7 streams of income, she got to work. Her and her husband built wealth, lost it all, and built it back. In 2018, her husband tragically passed away and Catherine was left to raise her 14 year old twins on her own. As...


Matt O'Neill - Leading A Good Mood Revolution
#254
11/07/2024

Matt O'Neill teaches us that happiness is a choice, even when life gets tough. His work has positively impacted the lives of over 100,000 people worldwide. As a leader in happiness education, Matt teaches how to live a life of "Conscious Happiness". Matt is the author of the book "Good Mood Revolution", and has a podcast of the same name. He explains the importance of conquering negative thought patterns while embracing habits that lead to a happier life. He and his wife have 4 children, they run 2 businesses with over $8 Million in revenue, and his company was recognized as the #1 company...


Steve Werner - From Active To Passive Investing
#253
10/31/2024

After amassing a real estate portfolio of 150+ units as an active investor, Steve Werner knew there had to be a better way. He was still caught on the hamster wheel of trading time for dollars. This journey led him to become the Chief of Investor Relations for Home Invest, where he now invests, and helps others invest, in multifamily apartments. Find out why Steve is so passionate about building passive wealth through real estate investing, and how you can do it too!

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Jacopo Iasiello - Healthy, Rich, & Happy
#252
10/24/2024

Jacopo Iasiello is the EO of Luxury & Wealth Group. His journey started out growing up in Naples, Italy, where he developed a love for Entrepreneurship. He started a successful jewlery chain at 18 years old and dipped into real estate at 22. He earned his PhD in International Business Management , moved to Florida in 2011, and has since completed over 350 transactions and built a successful portfolio. Jacopo is the author of the book "Healthy, Rich, and Happy", which aims to share his transformative approach of M.P.B.E - Meditate, Morning, Pray, Biohacking, and Exercise to help others achieve financial freedom...


Jenn & Joe Delle Fave - The Creative Finance Playbook For Real Estate
#251
10/17/2024

Jenn started out as a middle school English teacher while Joe was stuck working at a car dealership in Upstate New York. Over time, they slowly started chipping away at their real estate goals through the use of creative financing and the rent to own strategy. What started out as a 1 month long trip to Florida turned into them taking 45 days to pack up their lives in New York, sell their primary residence and permanently move down to Florida, where they now homeschool their 2 kids while pursuing their real estate goals in warmer weather. As host of the Creative...


Wyatt Simon - Quitting Your W2 Job At 27 For Real Estate Investing
#250
10/10/2024

Wyatt Simon currently owns and operates a $20 Million vertically integrated real estate portfolio thanks to the BRRRR strategy. He was able to quit his W2 job at the age of 27 years old thanks to his real estate investing. He is the author of the book "0-100: A Real Estate Investor's Guide to Scaling A Rental Portfolio" and helps other people ditch their W2 job and transition to multi-family freedom. 

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Veena Jetti - $1 Billion In Real Estate
#249
10/03/2024

Veena is the founding partner in Vive Funds, a commercial real estate firm specializing in conservative opportunities for investors. After graduating from the University of Illinois at Chicago with a degree in Finance, Veena pursued her passion in real estate. She now has over a decade in the industry, and has over $1 Billion in multi-family transactions in her own portfolio. She also leads a Facebook Community called Mastering Multifamily with Veena Jetti, and is the founder of MultiFi, a community of like-minded investors. In 2017, she was one of only 3 women to receive the Politico Woman of the Year award...


Ryan Chaw - Retired Pharmacist At 31 From Rent By The Room
#248
09/26/2024

Ryan Chaw is a pharmacist turned real estate investor. By investing in 15 properties while working his full-time job, in August 2023 he was able to replace his pharmacist salary and walk away from his job to pursue real estate investing full-time. Growing up, Ryan saw the power of real estate investing from his Grandpa, who was able to acquire rentals and was able to pay for Ryan's college tuition. Wanting to follow in his footsteps, Ryan set out to acquire 1 property per year and utility the rent by the room model. With properties now spanning 3 states, Ryan is able to...


Gino Barbaro - "The Pizza Guy" With $350 Million In Real Estate
#247
09/19/2024

Gino Barbaro is an investor, business owner, educator, entrepreneur & podcast host on 4 different shows. You may know him from "Jake & Gino", where along with his business partner Jake Stenziano, they teach others how to invest in multifamily real estate. Jake & Gino have a real estate portfolio of over 2,200 units transacted & $350 Million assets under management, and have helped their student close over 76,000 units and over $5 Billion in deals! 

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Jason Muth - Turning A Side Gig into 3 Short-Term Rental Businesses
#246
09/12/2024

Jason Muth is the founder of 3 real estate investment and short-term rental businesses. After working for large media corporations, Jason decided to leave the corporate world behind and welcome guests into short-term rentals full-time, so he turned his "side gig" into his primary focus. Along with his husband Rory Gill, Jason launched Prideaway Stays, a gay-owned, tech-driven short-term rental co-hosting business. He's also launched Straightforward Short-Term Rentals, their owned-and-operated portfolio of vacation homes in Massachusetts and New Hampshire. Finally they also have their own podcast The Smart Stay Show (previously The Real Estate Law Podcast). Hear Jason share his...


Grant Francke - From The Railroad To $8 Million Portfolio
#245
09/05/2024

Grant Francke is a self-made real estate entrepreneur and author who built an $8 Million real estate portfolio from humble beginnings. Working for a railroad company, Grant knew he needed to build something else on his own to be able to leave that work behind, be in business for himself, and build the life he wanted. He quit his job in 2019 and has been working on his real estate portfolio full-time since then. He is the author of the book "The Unlikely Investor: A Path To Financial Freedom Through Real Estate". He lives in Nebraska and enjoys spending time with...


Matthew Gibbs - Leveraging AI To Simplify Mortgages
#244
08/29/2024

Matthew J Gibbs is a business innovator and seasoned professional in the Canadian real estate & mortgage industry. He's the drier behind a nationwide online mortgage brokerage, The Great Canadian Mortgage Co. His mission is to simplify & expedite the mortgage process to ensure clients have access to the best financing options available. He's leveraging advanced AI technology to streamline the mortgage application process, connecting clients with over 200 lenders nationwide. The approach saves time, offers personalized service, and ensures clients receive the best possible mortgage deal. 

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Justin Udy - Winning Real Estate Through Sales & Investing
#243
08/22/2024

Justin Udy's real estate career began on the mortgage side, where he began buying and renovating homes. He eventually got his real estate license and was named "Rookie of the Year". He continued to grow, consistently placing among the top 1% of salespeople nationwide and is ranked in the Top 10 producers globally for Century 21 and among the Top 200 Producing Agents in the USA. Through strategic investments in multi-family, commercial, and development projects, Justin has a portfolio that now brings in over $100,000 in net cash flow annually. He also went back to school and earned his Masters Degree in Real Estate...


Mike Gengler - From Real Estate Agent To Investor
#242
08/15/2024

Mike Gengler became a real estate agent and got his license in 2020. He started out working with residential clients, but pretty quickly realized that working with investors and eventually becoming an investor himself better aligned with his future goals. Hear Mike share his journey to building a portfolio of over 200 units and $6.5M in assets under management in the past 2 years while giving up being a real estate agent for residential clients and focusing on helping investors achieve their goals, while Mike's able to work on achieving his own personal goals at the same time!

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Mike Swenson - 200 Units In 22 Months
#241
08/08/2024

We have some exciting news to share! With a recent closing, REL Freedom's Mike Swenson has now surpassed 200 Units owned in 22 months! How did he do it? What wisdom does he have to help you on your journey? Tune into this week's episode as he walks through some of the key things to help you move to the next goal in real estate. 

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