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Erich von Däniken (1935â2026): Chariots of the Gods & a Lasting Legacy
This special episode of That UFO Podcast pays tribute to Erich von Däniken, the Swiss author whose book Chariots of the Gods? helped popularise the ancient astronaut hypothesis and reshape public conversations about humanityâs past.
Erich von Däniken passed away on January 10th 2026 at the age of 90.
In this episode, Andy reflects on von Dänikenâs life, influence, and the controversy surrounding his work, before sharing a short archival audio interview recorded several years ago ahead of von Dänikenâs appearance at Contact in the Desert.
A respectful look at a...
(Premium) Bodies, Craft, or Nothing: Inside the DC Press Club UFO Event
On January 20th, a major UFO focused event took place at the Washington DC Press Club, hosted by James Fox and featuring testimony and discussion around legacy crash retrieval programs, alleged non human biologics, and long standing cases including Brazil and Varginha.
In this episode, Andy is joined by researcher and social media analyst Joe Murgia for a detailed breakdown of what was said, what stood out, and what still feels frustratingly out of reach.
They discuss the possibility of exhuming a body with family permission using modern science, the existence of alleged smoking gun...
Breaking Update: Whistleblowers, Visa Denials, and Todayâs UFO Hearing
This is a breaking news episode summarising todayâs UFO press event at the National Press Club in Washington DC, focused on the 1996 Varginha UFO case in Brazil.
Andy provides a factual, chronological recap of the event, including sworn witness testimony, recorded statements from Brazilian witnesses who were denied US visas, and commentary from congressional and medical figures.
The episode also covers the lack of mainstream media presence, the role of whistleblower protections, and listener reaction following the event.
Witness video statements discussed in this episode are available on YouTube and X.
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Debunkers, Media Narratives & Accountability | Matt Ford (Part 2)
In Part 2, Matt Ford explains why he takes a confrontational stance online, calling out professional debunkers, media narratives, and institutional behaviour around UAPs.
We discuss accountability, skepticism versus narrative management, and where the UFO conversation may be heading next.
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UFO Stigma, Experience & the Human Cost | Matt Ford (Part 1)
In Part 1, journalist and The Good Trouble Show host Matt Ford discusses his background, early interest in UFOs, personal experiences, and why stigma continues to shape the conversation.
We explore how experiencers are affected by ridicule, why many stay silent for decades, and the human cost of dismissing the phenomenon outright.
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Special Episode: The 2007 National Press Club UFO Event
In this special archival episode, we revisit a largely forgotten but highly significant moment in modern UFO history.
In November 2007, international military, aviation, scientific, and government officials gathered at the National Press Club in Washington DC to publicly discuss their UFO encounters and official investigations, a full decade before the subject re-entered the mainstream conversation in 2017.
Participants included senior figures from the United States, United Kingdom, France, Belgium, Iran, Peru, and Chile, many of whom described incidents involving radar tracking, military interception, physical effects, and objects exhibiting performance beyond known technology.
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Avi Loeb: The Interstellar Object the CIA Wouldnât Discuss
In this episode, Iâm joined once again by Avi Loeb, Harvard astrophysicist, head of the Galileo Project, and author of Extraterrestrial and Interstellar.
We dive deep into 3I/ATLAS, the third known interstellar object ever detected, and why it has sparked intense scientific interest and public debate. Avi explains the unusual features of this object, including its anti-tail, orbital alignment, and chemical signatures, and why these anomalies deserve serious scrutiny.
We also discuss the CIAâs âneither confirm nor denyâ response to records about 3I/ATLAS, the idea of black swan events, criticism of narrow S...
Grusch vs Clapper, The Age of Disclosure & the Growing Divide in UFO Disclosure
At the start of 2026, the UFO disclosure conversation appears more fractured than ever. Andy is joined by journalist and Psicoactivo podcast host Pavel to break down David Gruschâs recent comments on The Age of Disclosure, his criticism of senior intelligence figures, and the growing divide within the disclosure movement itself. From insider testimony and documentary narratives to experiencers, biologics, and public readiness, this episode explores where disclosure stands and where it may be heading next.
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Was UFO Skepticism Engineered? The Legacy of Donald Menzel (Part 2)
In Part 2, the conversation moves from history into consequences.
Andy and Ryan examine how UFO skepticism evolved from scientific caution into something far more strategic. They explore radar interference theories, early claims of recovered craft, and whether figures like Donald Menzel knowingly participated in long-term counterintelligence efforts.
The discussion expands into modern UFO debates, including skepticism versus debunking, the treatment of eyewitness testimony, belief systems, and why the burden of proof in UFO research remains uniquely high.
This episode asks a difficult question: if skepticism was shaped by intelligence needs decades ago, are...
Breaking UFO News: Elizondoâs New Book, Grusch Speaks Out, and the Atlas Question
In this breaking news update, Andy covers a series of major developments shaping the UFO and UAP conversation as 2026 begins.
The episode opens with the surprise appearance of a new book listing from Luis Elizondo. Titled Reckoning: The Unspoken Truth about UFOs and the Urgency of Now, the book has quietly appeared on publisher and retail sites with an expected 2026 release. Andy reads and analyses the full publisher blurb, discusses timing, positioning, and why this release matters coming from a former Pentagon insider.
Attention then turns to David Grusch and his recent high-profile interview on...
The Man Who Shaped UFO Skepticism | Donald Menzel Explained (Part 1)
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UFO skepticism didnât begin with social media or YouTube debunkers.
In Part 1 of this conversation, Andy is joined by researcher and writer Ryan Purkey to explore the early life and career of Donald H. Menzel, a Harvard astronomer, naval intelligence officer, and one of the most influential figures in shaping how UFOs would be publicly dismissed.
This episode traces Menzelâs rise through academia, his World War II work in cryptography and radar, and how those skills placed him at the hear...
UFO Q&A: Disclosure, Whistleblowers, Spielberg & What Comes Next in 2026
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In this special Ask Me Anything episode, Andy kicks off 2026 by answering listener questions from across the UFO community and reflecting on where the phenomenon stands after a turbulent 2025.
Topics include disclosure fatigue, whistleblowers, underwater UFOs, public readiness, media responsibility, AI, citizen disclosure, and whether governments still control the narrative. Andy also looks ahead to what could genuinely move the needle in 2026, including upcoming hearings, whistleblower claims, major documentaries, and shifting public attitudes.
This episode explores belief, skepticism, frustration, curiosity, and the uncomfortable reality that disclosure...
James Fox: Why the Varginha Case Changes Everything
Documentary filmmaker James Fox returns to That UFO Podcast to discuss new revelations surrounding Moment of Contact and the Varginha UFO case. From alleged crash retrievals and live beings to missing videos and military involvement, James explains why this case may be the most important of them all.
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The Breakdown 2025 UFO Year in Review The Stories That Mattered and What Comes Next
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In this special end-of-year review, Andy is joined by Dan from What It Means to Be Human to look back at the biggest UFO and UAP stories of 2025 and ask what, if anything, actually moved the conversation forward.
They discuss Skywatcher and its unfulfilled promises, the year of the whistleblower with figures like Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland, congressional hearings and why they may be losing impact, and the growing divide between entertainment and evidence in the UFO space.
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Bonus Review - American Sasquatch: Man, Myth or Monster
In this bonus review episode, Andy steps slightly outside the usual UFO comfort zone to review the documentary American Sasquatch: Man, Myth or Monster?, a film that explores the Bigfoot phenomenon through eyewitness testimony, physical evidence, DNA claims, and high strangeness theories.
Produced by Lab Nine Films and featuring familiar names from the wider UFO and paranormal world, the documentary raises questions that will sound very familiar to UAP researchers.
Is Sasquatch a flesh and blood creature?
A misidentified relic of human ancestry?
Or something far stranger, possibly connected to portals, consciousness, and UFO...
UFO News Update: Spielberg, Congress, Skywatcher & the Road to 2026
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A UFO news update covering Spielbergâs Disclosure Day, Skywatcher, congressional comments, Jay Strattonâs upcoming book, and key developments shaping the conversation heading into 2026.
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Warp Drives, Observables, and UAP Physics | Chad Wanless & Dave Palachik
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Engineering technologists Chad Wanless and Dave Palachik join Andy to discuss UAP observables, warp-drive physics, experiencer perspectives, and why the evidence may have been hidden in plain sight.
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First Contact, Science & Skepticism: Becky Ferreira on Aliens, UAP & Human Obsession
Science journalist Becky Ferreira joins Andy to discuss aliens, UAP, disclosure, and humanityâs obsession with life beyond Earth. From government secrecy to scientific skepticism, this episode explores what we really know â and what we donât.
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Breaking News - Spielbergâs âDisclosure Dayâ Trailer Drops & Congress Speaks Out
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The trailer for Steven Spielbergâs long-awaited UFO movie has finally dropped and itâs officially titled Disclosure Day.
In this breaking news episode, Andy walks through the teaser trailer shot by shot, looking at the symbolism, themes, and heavy UFO lore running throughout. Religious imagery, animal symbolism, global broadcasts, altered voices, and the idea of full worldwide disclosure all feature heavily.
The episode also covers new comments from members of Congress on UAPs following the latest Weaponized interview, including pushback from agencies, the need for subp...
Vandenberg UFOs, Congressional Intimidation & What Comes Next â Jeff Nuccetelli
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Former US Air Force security officer and congressional UAP hearing witness Jeff Nuccetelli returns to That UFO Podcast for a wide-ranging and deeply candid conversation.
Jeff revisits the UFO incursions at Vandenberg Air Force Base, explains what it was like to testify before Congress, and details the intimidation and surveillance tactics faced by witnesses both before and after the hearings. He also discusses why whistleblower protections are still failing, how national security is used to shield secrecy, and whatâs really happening behind closed doors as lawmakers attempt to...
UFO News Update: Elizondoâs Memo, Drone Flaps & Spielbergâs Return to UFOs
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December is proving to be one of the busiest months of the year for UFO and UAP news.
In this mid-December news update, Andy breaks down a revealing interview with Luis Elizondo, including details of a memo sent to President Trump warning that the United States is falling behind on emerging all-domain technologies from advanced drones to genuinely anomalous UAP. The proposal of a potential âUAP Czarâ, government transparency failures, and growing national security concerns are all on the table.
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Nightcrawlerâs USO Shift: Drone Swarms, Spectral Orbs & the Black Triangle
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The Tedesco brothers return with their most revealing Nightcrawler data yet. From advanced drone-like objects appearing across the East Coast to large luminous orbs shifting between visible, infrared and ultraviolet spectra, John and Gerald break down what their multi-sensor systems actually captured and why some of it defies prosaic explanation.
They discuss why their research focus is shifting from UAPs to USOs, the recurring water connection, and several cases where objects appeared to respond to being observed. The brothers also detail a black triangle emerging from a cloud...
Atlas of UFOs Preview: Varginia Crash Retrievals + James Fox Clip (Book Promo)
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In this bonus episode of That UFO Podcast, Andy shares an exclusive preview from his new book, Atlas of Unidentified Flying Objects.
This instalment focuses on one of the most astonishing alleged crash retrieval events in UFO history the 1996 Varginha, Brazil incident, often called Brazilâs Roswell.
Andy reads a section from the Crash Retrievals chapter, offering background on the sighting, the witnesses, the entity encounter, and the mysterious death of a police officer. Youâll also hear a special archived interview clip with filmmaker James Fox, dire...
Steven Bassett: Disclosure Timeline, UAP Politics & The Age of Disclosure Documentary
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Executive Director of the Paradigm Research Group, Steven Bassett, returns to break down the rapidly shifting disclosure landscape. We cover the Age of Disclosure documentary, Hollywoodâs newfound engagement with the topic, and why Bassett believes the political resistance to disclosure is collapsing.
Steven dives into drone flaps, orb sightings, the 1952 Washington flyover, nuclear shutdown events, and the increasing pressure on the White House as figures like Dan Farah, Joe Rogan, Christopher Mellon, and Marco Rubio elevate the conversation. We also explore why Bassett thinks a single head of...
Omnibus: The Age of the Whistleblowers - Sands, Gamm, Logan
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With the Age of Disclosure hitting the mainstream & highlighting the UFO topic to a new audience, I thought this would be a great opportunity to re-introduce some of the whistleblowers i've spoken to over the last 15 months. They talk through the incredible video's they've seen, the disagreements they have about what they are looking at & Jason Sands goes into his own incredible experience face to face, with a Non-Human entity.
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From Summoning to Surveillance: The Hidden War with the Phenomenon
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Andy welcomes Reed Summers back for an in-depth discussion on the strategic and existential implications of the UFO phenomenon. They examine the Age of Disclosure documentary, the evolving role of non-human intelligence, historical and modern UAP engagements, South American incidents, and the challenges surrounding governmental transparency.
The episode also explores citizen-driven detection efforts, political disclosure possibilities, and the influence of NHI on belief systems, technology, and global stability. A thoughtful and comprehensive look at one of the most complex issues of ou...
The Big Picture: UAP Strategy, Hostile Encounters & What Comes Next
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Andy welcomes Reed Summers back for an in-depth discussion on the strategic and existential implications of the UFO phenomenon. They examine the Age of Disclosure documentary, the evolving role of non-human intelligence, historical and modern UAP engagements, South American incidents, and the challenges surrounding governmental transparency.
The episode also explores citizen-driven detection efforts, political disclosure possibilities, and the influence of NHI on belief systems, technology, and global stability. A thoughtful and comprehensive look at one of the most complex issues of ou...
Rep. Eric Burlison Exclusive: âTrump Is the Disclosure Presidentâ
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An exclusive interview with Congressman Eric Burlison as he joins me to discuss the Age of Disclosure documentary, the involvement of notable figures like Marco Rubio and James Clapper, and the efforts to pass the UAP Disclosure Act.
Burlison discusses the challenges and progress in gaining congressional approval and his hopes for mainstream attention to the documentary. The interview also touches on Burlison's personal journey, his visit to Peru to study alleged mummies, and his hopes for presidential action on UAP disclosure.
The Age of Disclosure â Documentary Review
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Join Andy from That UFO Podcast as he reviews the highly anticipated documentary The Age of Disclosure. Released November 21, 2025 on Amazon Prime, the film features key figures including Luis Elizondo, Jay Stratton, Chris Mellon, and more.
Andy breaks down the documentaryâs major moments, standout contributors, what worked, what didnât, and how it may shape the broader UFO conversation. He also discusses the limited theatrical release, pricing and accessibility, media reactions, and what he felt was missing.
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Inside the Whistleblower Fight: Jordan Flowers on the Real Battle for UAP Disclosure
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Andy is joined by Jordan Flowers, Executive Director of the Disclosure Foundation, for a serious and detailed look at the true state of UAP disclosure. Jordan shares how he entered the subject after the 2017 New York Times article, and how his background in finance and consulting now informs the Foundationâs work in legal support, FOIA litigation, policy briefs, congressional engagement, and public education.
The conversation explores whistleblower protection, retaliation concerns, congressional realities, media misinformation, and what meaningful transparency could look like. Jordan also discusses the...
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AI, Interaction and the Future of UAP - Part 2
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In Part 2 of my conversation with Dr. Christian Peters, we dive into the future: AI, bots, simulated interaction, algorithm manipulation, and what happens when technology begins shaping the UAP narrative faster than people can.
Christian and I explore how artificial intelligence could influence experiencer accounts, community behaviour, political structures, and even the way disclosure is understood. We also discuss the adaptability of human society, why we may be more resilient than we think, and what a responsible path toward greater transparency might look like.
How Society Shapes the UFO Discussion - Part 1
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In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, Iâm joined by Dr. Christian Peters - political theorist, academic leader, and one of the most thoughtful voices emerging in the UAP discussion.
We explore the human side of the phenomenon: how narratives spread, why experiencer testimony matters, how trust is built or broken, and the social and political pressures that have shaped the UFO debate for decades. Christian also explains why academia is slowly beginning to take the subject seriously, and how cultural filters influence what we beli...
James Foxâs New Revelations, Lacatski on UFOs, the Paranormal & Disinformation, Plus More
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In this mid-November 2025 UFO news update, you'll hear me discuss the latest news including highlights from James Fox's appearances on News Nation Reality Check and the upcoming release of 'Moment of Contact' on Amazon Prime and Apple TV.Â
The episode dives into the Varginha UFO incident, often referred to as Brazil's Roswell.Â
I also review a compelling two-part interview from the Weaponized podcast featuring James Lacatski, where they discuss the intricacies of the AAWSAP program, government transparency, and the challenges of UFO disclosure. Additionally, updates on...
Transmission Highlights Vol.2 (Rogers, Summers, Nolan)
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This is your 2nd 'Transmission Highlights', your chance to hear some of the highlights from interviews i've done in the last few weeks, including:
Greg Rogers tells his incredible story of seeing a flying saucer on CCTV while on medical duty in Cape Canaveral
Reed Summers discusses his fascinating insights into Non-Human Intent
Prof Garry Nolan talks Sol, Skywatcher & more
Whether youâre catching up or reliving your favourite moments, this condensed highlights reel offers a fascinating snapshot of the ideas and experiences sh...
(Pt.2) In-Depth with Richard Dolan: Underwater Objects (USO's) & more
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In this episode of That UFO Podcast, I welcome back esteemed UFO researcher, author, and speaker Richard Dolan. We discuss his latest project Need to Know with Bryce Zabel, explore the differences in their investigative approaches, and examine the history of UFO disclosure. We dive into the reasons behind abduction cases, the evidence for underwater UFOs (USOs), and how the dynamics of the phenomenon have evolved over the decades. Drawing on his extensive knowledge and latest research, Richard shares insights into disclosure efforts, the role of government agencies, and...
In-Depth with Richard Dolan: UFO Disclosure, Abductions & more (Pt.1)
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In this episode of That UFO Podcast, I welcome back esteemed UFO researcher, author, and speaker Richard Dolan. We discuss his latest project Need to Know with Bryce Zabel, explore the differences in their investigative approaches, and examine the history of UFO disclosure. We dive into the reasons behind abduction cases, the evidence for underwater UFOs (USOs), and how the dynamics of the phenomenon have evolved over the decades. Drawing on his extensive knowledge and latest research, Richard shares insights into disclosure efforts, the role of government agencies, and...
Garry Nolan: UAP Disclosure, Data & the Future of Research
In this episode of That UFO Podcast, Andy is joined by Professor Garry Nolan to discuss the recent third annual SOL Foundation Symposium held in Lago Maggiore. They explore the eventâs goal of connecting local and international communities interested in UAP phenomena, the wide range of presentations, and key speakers including Col Karl Nell, Jake Barber, Dr.Beatriz Villlaroel, General Pierre Bescond and Fabio De Masi.
The conversation also covers the challenges of engaging the wider scientific community, the future of Skywatcher and its mission to collect and analyse UAP data, and the continuing efforts of global di...
Mainstream interest in 'Age of Disclosure?', Vance on UFO's & more
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Join me for a UFO news update for the first week of November. Updates include the delayed George Knapp interview with James Lacatski, upcoming big interviews with Prof.Garry Nolan and Richard Dolan. I also discuss the anticipated release of 'Age of Disclosure,' set for November 21st, and its recent exposure on the Bill Maher show. The podcast also touches on significant conversations between Diana Pasulka, Leslie Kean, and more, diving into UFOs, consciousness, and technology.
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Sol Symposium 2025: Event Highlights, Key Speakers, and Exclusive Interviews
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In this special episode, I share my thoughts and experiences from the Sol Symposium 2025, held at Lake Maggiore, Italy. I discuss the eventâs highlights, my interactions with well-known speakers, and feature two exclusive interviews â with Dr. Iya Whiteley and Jeff Nuccetelli.
Join me as I provide insights into the Symposiumâs most notable talks, networking opportunities, and the overall atmosphere of this significant UFO conference.
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