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Join us in this episode as we take a deep dive into a viral video shared during a recent UAP hearing. Andy welcomes an anonymous guest, a former ammunition technician from the British Army, who shares his expertise on the explosive systems and his analysis of the video. The discussion goes through a detailed breakdown of what might actually be depicted, including the possibility of a Hellfire missile test. Despite wanting to believe in the extraordinary, our guest provides a compelling explanation that might debunk the exciting initial interpretations...

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Only 24 hours after the historic UFO hearings in Washington D.C., we dive into the key moments, testimonies, and controversies that emerged.

We cover the witness accounts of Dylan Borland, Chief Alexandro Wiggins, and George Knapp, analyzing what their statements could mean for the broader disclosure conversation. We also look at newly analyzed video footage presented around the hearings, and how it’s shaping public and congressional perception.

Beyond the witness table, we explore the bigger themes: the protections and risks for whistleblowers, the debate ar...

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This is my immediate reactions and initial thoughts on todays UAP hearings. Summarising the key statements from witnesses, including former Air Force and Navy personnel, and discussing the new UAP footage displayed during the hearing. 

Immediate Reactions
Setting the Scene: Low Expectations
Key Statements and Witnesses
The testimony
5th Witness Surprise Appearance
Intriguing New Video Evidence


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Its the week of the UAP Hearings in Congress, so here is your last update before the big day on the 9th September (link to watch below)

Book Launch Announcement
Upcoming Historic Hearings
Witnesses and Their Backgrounds
Legal Implications of Lying to Congress
Danny Sheen and Whistleblower Protections
Garry Nolan on Joe Rogan
New Paradigm Institute Film
Jake Barber's Interview on Consciousness
Matthew Brown's Substack Series
UFO Leadership Discussion
Upcoming Events and Final Thoughts

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In this deep-dive episode, we explore the fast-moving world of UFO/UAP disclosure and the forces shaping it. From the UAP Disclosure Act and upcoming congressional hearings to the politicization of science and the role of mainstream media, we break down how legislation, testimony, and public pressure are converging on one of history’s most profound issues.

We cover the challenges faced by witnesses, the recognition long overdue for UFO researchers, and the startling connections between nuclear shutdowns and UAPs. Listener questions and activist perspectives add fresh insight in...

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In this episode, Andy interviews Steve Bassett, Executive Director of the Paradigm Research Group, to discuss breaking news with the witness list finally available.

UAP Hearing: Witness List & Initial Reactions
Venue Significance: Capitol Visitor Center
Who Are the Witnesses?
George Knapp’s Role & Testimony
Firsthand vs. Secondhand Testimony
The Truth Embargo: History & Impact
The UAP Disclosure Act & Political Context
Media, Social Media, and Public Perception
The Role of Activism & Legacy
Global Disclosure: International Perspectives

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With major UFO hearings set for September 9th, 2025 in the US — where military whistleblowers are expected to come forward with their experiences — now’s the perfect time to revisit the reactions to the first historic hearings (2022–2024).

In this 2-part series, I’m joined by guests including Jeremy Corbell, Alex Dietrich, Tim McMillan, Dan Zetterstrom, Graeme Rendall, and Klaus, sharing their insights and reactions to these landmark events.

Stay tuned for upcoming episodes this month previewing the hearings, reporting on the testimony, and breaking d...

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With major UFO hearings set for September 9th, 2025 in the US — where military whistleblowers are expected to come forward with their experiences — now’s the perfect time to revisit the reactions to the first historic hearings (2022–2024).

In this 2-part series, I’m joined by guests including Jeremy Corbell, Alex Dietrich, Tim McMillan, Dan Zetterstrom, Graeme Rendall, and Klaus, sharing their insights and reactions to these landmark events.

Stay tuned for upcoming episodes this month previewing the hearings, reporting on the testimony, and breaking down the fallout.

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A packed UFO news update: UAP hearing preview, Matthew Brown’s Immaculate Constellation, Skywatcher developments, the Tic-Tac manual leak, credibility questions, and more.

UAP hearing preview (September 9th)

Matthew Brown, Immaculate Constellation

Skywatcher developments

The 'Tic-Tac manual' leak

Credibility questions across the UFO field

And much more...


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We continue our discussion into your listener questions as Pavel, from the Psicoactivo podcast is with me to answer your questions.


Civilian Researchers and Technology

The Role of the Catholic Church and Secretive Organizations

Fear Mongering and Scientific Investigations


Psicoactivo: https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast


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With another set of UFO hearings on the horizon for early September, there are a lot of moving parts as first hand witnesses are said to be ready to testify , Skywatcher goes through some potentially major changes & members of Congress argue online with big UFO names. To discuss this and a whole lot more I am enjoyed by Pavel Ibarra, from the Psicoactivo Podcast


Current State of UFO Hearings
Firsthand Witnesses and Their Impact
Potential Witnesses and Their Credibility
Skywatcher and Government Involvement
New Whistleblower and His Claims


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In this episode Will Brown continues to discuss the Nazca mummies and answer your questions!


Listener questions and final reflections

Questions of authenticity, transparency, and peer review

Ancient civilizations, elongated skulls, and cultural practices

UFO sightings, artifacts, and potential hoaxes

Challenges in academic and online discourse


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In this episode I take another look at the ongoing Nazca Mummies saga with researcher, author, and filmmaker Will Brown. Will shares his firsthand experiences and insights on the controversial Nazca mummies, weaving together tales of elongated skulls, grave robbers, and potential ancient rituals. But, is there a Non-Human explanation?

Meet researcher and filmmaker Will Brown
The Nazca Mummies: discovery, examination, and controversies
Scientific analysis, anomalies, and red flags
Historical context, petroglyphs, and the Nazca Lines
David Grusch’s influence an...

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In this episode, Andy discusses the latest UFO stories including comments from Representative Anna Paulina Luna on the Joe Rogan Podcast, intriguing online exchanges between Luna and Lue Elizondo, and the hot topic of a potential alien object nearing Earth. Also included are updates on Ross Coulthart leaving 'Need to Know', the relevance of the Nazca mummies, and listener questions. 


Luna on Joe Rogan
Key Moments and Claims from the Interview
Listener Reactions and Comments to appearance
Elizondo and Luna online Exchange
Ross C...

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Retired F-16 pilot Chris Lehto returns to discuss the state of UFO disclosure, the role of whistleblowers, and the growing frustration within the UFO community. We explore the impact of Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony, the decentralization of UFO research, media narratives, and how Chris’s military background shapes his view of the phenomenon.

Skywatcher and UFO Phenomenon
The Impact of Non-Human Intelligence Disclosure
The Role of Governments in Disclosure
Historical Analogies and Secrecy
Pilot Reports and UAP Stigma
The State of UAP Journalism
...

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Retired F-16 pilot Chris Lehto returns to discuss the state of UFO disclosure, the role of whistleblowers, and the growing frustration within the UFO community. We explore the impact of Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony, the decentralization of UFO research, media narratives, and how Chris’s military background shapes his view of the phenomenon.

Why disclosure feels stuck — and who might be stalling it
Chris Lehto's take on Cmdr. Fravor's testimony
The mental toll of following the UFO topic closely
Are whistleblowers being silenced or ignored?
Wh...

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In this episode, returning guest Karen Alexander, a Crop Circle researcher of over 30 years joins me to look at this years new Circles & get into a bit of the history of the subject:

Karen Alexander’s Background in Crop Circles
What Are Crop Circles Really?
Scientific Investigations & Surprising Findings
Are Crop Circles a Message or a Mystery?
Guidelines for Visiting Crop Circles
Can AI Decode Crop Circle Patterns?
Doug & Dave: Debunkers or Distraction?
Crop Circles, Geometry & Human Consciousness
The Truth Be...

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In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher.

Whistleblowers and Public Disclosure
Managing UFO Information Like a PR Campaign
David Grusch's Impact and Media Coverage
Challenges and Dangers for Whistleblowers
Citizen Disclosure and Skywatcher's Role
Dr. Beatriz Villaroel and Transient Objects
Listener Questions: Craft...

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In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher.

👇 Timestamps:
00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction
01:00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction
01:10 Early Psi Experiences & Family UFO Encounters
03:10 Major Contact at 19 & Joining Skywatcher
06:40 Consciousness, Folklore & the Phenomena
15:09 Skywatcher's Journey, Challenges & Transparency
36:47 Psionic Abilities, Inner Voices & Daily Life
48:00 The...

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In this fascinating deep dive, I’m joined by Ivan Hannel — best known as the lawyer representing Luis “Lue” Elizondo, former head of AATIP — for a nearly two-hour conversation that explores the legal, political, and human sides of UFO disclosure.

We cover everything from the New York Times article that changed the game, to Ivan’s professional relationship with Elizondo, legal insights into congressional briefings, government secrecy, and… a tease of a potential new whistleblower coming forward.

Ivan's Journey: From Law to UFOs
Meeting L...

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Another busy week in UFO world, another UFO news round up with a few really interesting moments from Weaponized with Corbell & Knapp, Diana Pasulka smashes an interview out the park &. new evidence coming soon?


Corbell drops locations of UFO interest!
Dustin Slaughter bringing new evidence forward
Diana Pasulka interview with NYT
AARO Tim Phillips brought 'Skeptics' into be briefed
New Under Sec Air Force UFO experiences
Upcoming guests

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Carrying on the Breakdown, Dan stayed on with me to answer your questions on some of the news happening, including:

New 'Buga'/'Yumbo' Sphere Controversy
Shades of Disclosure
Community Dynamics and Disinformation
Tic-Tac UFOs and Breakaway Civilizations
Human Technology vs. Alien Craft
Consciousness and Reality
Disclosure and Government Secrecy
Final Thoughts


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There is so much going on in the UFO/UAP world right now. I'm joined by Dan to break down a whole load of news, including:

Delay to hearings

Potential witnesses for upcoming hearings

Garry Nolan's insights on UFOs and scientific skepticism

Electromagnetic signals and UAPs

Historical context and literature

DMT research and other dimensions

Tic-Tac UFOs and breakaway civilizations

Disclosure and government secrecy

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Here is your latest news round-up from the last few days in the world of UFOs:

Ross Coulthart clarifies comments

Hearings delayed until September

Pilots of 'crash retrieval vehicles' appearing?

NewsNation recap

Multiple reports drop on UFO sightings

NewsNation recap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z4a_GK-dkE

Canadian report:
https://science.gc.ca/site/science/en/office-chief-science-advisor/sky-canada-project/management-public-reporting-unidentified-aerial-phenomena-canada#appendix-b

NUFORC report:
https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/2000-ufo-sightings-first-half-2025/

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We continue to look at the news stories that have dominated the headlines in recent weeks but also the first half of 2025, including:


Age of Disclosure: Missed Opportunities?
Skywatcher: Promises and Skepticism
Whistleblowers and Public Perception
AARO Leadership and Future
Observatory's Sky Scans
UFO Data and Public Perception
UK UAP Hearings and Legislation
Closing Thoughts


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A bonus episode for you this weekend to look back at my first roundtable conversation from August 2020, but there's a big reason this one is worth checking out. These are three witnesses to the Tic Tac event of November 2004, all from differing expertise and vantage points. Very much worth diving into given the huge talking points Ross Coulthart, Eric Burlison & others have brought up around the origins of the Tic Tac craft. 


Recounting the 2004 Nimitz Encounter  
Personal Experiences and Reactions  
New Revelations and Classified Information  
Speculations on the Origin of UAPs  
Impact on Milit...

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I am joined by Dan to discuss a range of breaking UFO news, including Ross Coulthart's explosive claim about Tic-Tac technology being developed by Lockheed Martin, updates on the Sky Watcher project, and the latest whistleblowers. We also delve into the implications of recent UFO sightings and tech, a new observatory's potential astronomical revelations, and the debated impact of government legislation on UAP disclosure.

The Tic-Tac Incident
Ross Coulthart's Bold Claims
Debating the Tic-Tac Technology
The Nimitz Encounter Breakdown
Lockheed Martin...

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With so much news in the last few days, here is a round-up of whats going on right now with the UFO topic, including:

Ross Coulthart told the Tic-Tac was Lockheed Martin technology
The 2024/25 Drone flap was Chinese/US 
Baltic Sea Anomaly expedition
MUFON promise results of exotic material


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On this show I discuss the new footage dropped by Corbell & Knapp obtained by journalist Dustin Slaughter, as well as:

World UFO Day
Weaponized footage discussion
Coulthart sits down with Sen.Rounds
Listener Call


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Congressman Eric Burlison has made headlines with some big statements on various interviews over the last week, including discussing his views on the Nazca mummies, Buga Sphere, Nordics, Greys, Reptilians and more. Nathan joins me to discuss his statements & other news items.


Eric Burlison’s Interview and UFO Discussions
The Buga Sphere
Skepticism and Scientific Analysis
David Grusch and the Nazca Mummies
Navigating the UFO Community
Whistleblowers and Government Transparency
Trump's UFO Briefing and Alien Hybrids
Nordics, Greys, and Reptilians

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Pavel Ibarra, host of the Psicoactivo podcast, is back with me to finish our Breakdown of the news which includes:

Current state of Disclosure
Buga Sphere being a hoax?
UFO Narrative wars
Wall Street Journal hit-piece
Mainstream cover-up?
Challenges in UFO Disclosure


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I am joined for this Breakdown by first time guest, Pavel Ibarra, host of the Psicoactivo podcast which is very much worth checking out over on youtube, link below, we discussed a lot of news, including:


Tim Phillips' Interviews and Reactions
Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp's UFO Footage
The Buga Sphere Controversy
Underground Bases and Military Involvement
New Whistleblowers coming forward soon?
Comparing Whistleblowers: Grush and Brown
James Fox's Archival Project
Impact of Alien-Themed Media
Listener Questions
...

I am joined by Superintendent of Skinwalker Ranch, Thomas Winterton to talk about the new season, including:


Thomas Winterton's Journey to Skinwalker Ranch
The Evolution of Investigations at Skinwalker Ranch
Challenges and Discoveries in Drilling the Mesa
The Mysterious Triangle and LIDAR Discoveries
Personal Experiences and Historical Accounts
Hypotheses and Extraterrestrial Possibilities
Compelling Evidence and Scientific Investigations
Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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I am joined by Steve Bassett to carry on our conversation, which includes:

Listener Questions
The Theory of Genetic Connection with NHIs
The Importance of Disclosure and Open Contact
AI and Its Potential Role in Disclosure
The Spiritual and Esoteric Aspects of the phenomenon
Final Thoughts and Call to Action


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https://paradigmresearchgroup.org/


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UFO Disclosure advocate & Executive Director of the Paradigm Research Group, Steve Bassett joins me to discuss: 

Welcome and Introduction
The State of UFO Disclosure
Political Challenges and Progress
Recent Developments and Witnesses
Controversial Wall Street Journal Article
The Bigger Picture and Future Outlook
The Urgency of Disclosure
Speculations on Wall Street Journal's second part
The Role of Journalism in Democracy


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I am joined by former Deputy Director of the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) Timothy Phillips, to discuss:

Tims Career
Assignment to AARO and Initial Impressions
AARO Organizational Structure and Mission
Challenges in UAP Investigations
Working with Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick
Challenges in Proving or Disproving UAP Claims
Investigating Claims and Disinformation
Whistleblowers and Congressional Inquiries
Black Triangles and...

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I am joined by tech entrepreneur, physicist & experiencer, Deep Prasad to discuss:

What Deep thinks is actually going on with UFOs
The Continuous Spectrum of Interdimensional Beings
The Rise of Private Space Companies
The Role of NHI in Disclosure
UFOs & Open Source Data
Advancements in Anti-Gravity Research
The Implications of AI and Model Collapse
The Future Impact of AI on Society
Listener Questions on AI
Quantum Computing and Higher Dimensions
Conclusion and Future Projects


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I am joined by tech entrepreneur, physicist & experiencer, Deep Prasad to discuss:

00:00 Intro / Book promotion https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs
01:14 His Background and Achievements
03:17 Involvement in the UFO Community
04:18 AI and Material Science Innovations
10:37 The World's First UFO Hackathon
15:21 Hackathon Mission Tracks and Challenges
30:51 Future of UFO Detection and Public Involvement


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https://www.starvasa.space/our-origins

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I am joined by YOU the listener for another fascinating listener ramble where we cover:

Matthew Brown's cryptic X post
Govt operators writing secrets in books
Shadow government
and much more

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