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Who is behind PURSUE, and why should UFO whistleblowers trust it?

I’m joined by Pavel to discuss the unanswered questions around PURSUE’s call for whistleblowers, the viral footage from Tehran, and Jacques Vallée’s intriguing account of alleged communication with a non-human entity.

We get into:

• The Tehran “UFO”: something extraordinary, or LED lights on a kite?
• PURSUE, transparency and the risks facing whistleblowers.
• Matthew Brown and Vanguard’s efforts to support those coming forward.
• UFO File Drop 6, including 1952 footage and Edward Ruppelt’s discussion of unexplained sightings.
• Vallée’...

What does Danny Sheehan believe is happening behind the secrecy surrounding UFOs and what supports his claims?

In this extended preview of Unfinished Business, my new members-only series, I bring together around 90 minutes of conversations with lawyer Daniel Sheehan, built around your questions.

We explore:

• What evidence Danny would seek to establish the existence of non-human intelligence in court.
• His proposed legal action concerning the alleged UFO legacy programme.
• Grays, Nordics and Mantis beings and the distinction between testimony and physical evidence.
• His reasons for believing ongoing communication is taking place.

In Part Two, Karin Austin tells the story of meeting Harvard psychiatrist Dr John Mack and how their relationship changed the way she understood her experiences.

Karin discusses Mack’s approach to people reporting extraordinary encounters, the work they did together, their friendship, his death and the efforts to preserve his legacy and archives.

We then bring the conversation into the present day: the work surrounding the John Mack material and Rice University, attempts to study experiencer accounts more rigorously, and the difficult question of where experiencers belong in the modern UAP and disclosure conversation.

In Part One of my conversation with Karin Austin, we explore the extraordinary experiences that have shaped her life.

Karin describes unusual encounters going back to childhood before recounting the intense period of experiences that began again in her twenties - including missing time, apparent beings, altered states, out-of-body experiences and the encounter she says finally convinced her that at least part of what was happening was physically real.

We also discuss how she continued living an ordinary life while dealing with experiences she could barely explain, the difference between the terms “abductee” and “experiencer,” and her...

A quick update on the new interviews and shows coming your way, including more from Danny Sheehan, some major upcoming guests and a few hints at what could be around the corner.

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In 1971, a Costa Rican government mapping aircraft photographed Lake Cote every 13 seconds. Frame 299 showed nothing unusual. Frame 300 captured a metallic, disc-shaped object. By frame 301, it was gone. Nobody onboard saw it at the time.

Andy is joined by filmmaker Adam Pillon to discuss The Cote Photo, a new documentary investigating one of the clearest and best-documented UFO photographs ever made public.

They explore how the image was captured, its remarkable chain of custody, modern analysis of the film, the testimony of Sergio Loaiza and why this photograph still stands apart more than half a century...

Andy and Pavel dig into another busy week of UFO news, claims and controversy.

They examine the remarkable 1971 Cote UFO photograph, Dylan Borland’s alleged experiences and “demonic” interpretation of the phenomenon, Diana Pasulka’s thoughts on possession and NHI, and the growing debate around spirituality and UFO disclosure.

Also discussed: Shane Smith’s reported VICE UFO series, possible future Pursue releases, Skinwalker Ranch, Jay Stratton’s upcoming book, and concerns surrounding AARO’s proposed access to David Marler’s enormous UFO archive.

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Dr Diana Pasulka returns to discuss her new book, *The Others*, in a wide-ranging two-hour conversation exploring UFOs, AI, religion, death, consciousness and Disclosure.

We get into who or what “The Others” may be, whether UFO belief is becoming a new religion, the links between anomalous experiences and the afterlife, Peter Thiel and the Antichrist, the Vatican archives, misinformation in ufology and how Diana’s own views have changed over the years.

Plus: crash retrievals, recovered bodies, NHI deception and what may come next.

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Andy joins Pavel and Missile Man Jack to discuss reports that David Grusch could be returning to Joe Rogan, and whether a second appearance might deliver the next major moment in the disclosure story.

Also covered: Trump’s new US Space Academy and nuclear propulsion plans, Grusch’s comments on NHI biology and human origins, Matthew Brown’s startling claims about mind manipulation, alleged agreements with non-human intelligence, the White House crash-retrieval story, disclosure fatigue and a provocative new theory about Gary Mc...

On this episode of Doomer Friday, I join Clint, Pavel and Justin for a deep dive into Robert Bigelow’s latest podcast conversation with current Skinwalker Ranch owner Brandon Fugal. We get into some of the more intriguing claims and stories surrounding the Ranch, the wider mystery around Bigelow’s involvement, and what it could all mean.

We also discuss a British MP becoming more openly involved in the UFO conversation, before heading into some fun speculative territory around Disclosure, what it might actually look like, and whether we’re any closer to seeing something significant happen.

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This week, Andy and Pavel examine some of the biggest claims in the UFO world. From Eric Davis’s revelations on the podcast and Tim Gallaudet’s possible Atlantis discovery, to Lazar’s nine recovered craft, Grusch suggesting the real number could be between 25 and 100, and more whistleblowers preparing to speak out. How watertight are these extraordinary claims, and where is the evidence?

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Dr Eric Davis joins Andy for a major conversation about recovered UAP technology, NHI bodies, alleged government contact and decades of secret reverse-engineering efforts.

Davis begins with his bottom line up front, explaining why he believes UAP are real, controlled by non-human intelligence and have interacted with humanity for thousands of years.

He discusses the classified evidence he says he has personally examined, including original documents and photographs from a foreign Cold War crash retrieval; the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology and its alleged storage of preserved NHI bodies; a recovered craft apparently abandoned by...

I’m back on Doomer Friday, joining Clint, Pavel and Xander, with Chris Ramsay of Area 52 also dropping in for a wide-ranging conversation on where the UFO disclosure story goes next.

With a growing number of whistleblowers publicly calling on President Trump to waive their NDAs, we discuss whether this really could be a defining moment for disclosure or whether the entire conversation could once again disappear back into the shadows.

We also dig into Robert Bigelow’s revealing conversations with George Knapp, the role of the alleged gatekeepers, what they may actually know, and why...

Danny Sheehan returns to That UFO Podcast for another wide-ranging conversation on the hidden structures he believes sit behind the UFO secrecy and disclosure process.

In this interview, Danny makes some extraordinary and highly specific claims. He says there are at least nine recovered craft, some fully intact, discusses what he describes as an active communication process with an extraterrestrial civilisation, and alleges that technology exists capable of locating UFOs even when they are completely cloaked. He identifies this alleged system as “Golden Dome.”

We also get into the increasingly complicated battle over disclosure: the lega...

Andy and Pavel break down another huge week in the UAP conversation, beginning with part two of Robert Bigelow’s new series with George Knapp.

Why has Bigelow returned to the spotlight now, and what is he ultimately building towards? The discussion gets into his claims around consciousness and survival after death, the connection between consciousness and the UFO phenomenon, private aerospace contractors, amnesty and what Bigelow appears to believe disclosure should actually look like.

Then, David Grusch sits down with Dr. Phil and makes some of his strongest public claims yet: 25–100 recovered non-human craft, livi...

Three huge conversations. One special compilation.

This episode brings together some of the standout moments from my recent interviews with Danny Sheehan, Chris Ramsay and Richard Dolan, covering some of the biggest questions facing the UFO topic right now.

From disclosure, secrecy and what may be happening behind the scenes, to the behaviour of the phenomenon itself, possible patterns in UFO activity, USOs, 2027 and where all of this could be heading.

Whether you heard the original interviews or missed them first time around, this is a collection of some of the most fascinating...

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Inspector Roy Teague is a serving UK police officer, researcher and author of Close Encounters of the Police Kind, a collection of UFO and unexplained encounters reported by British police officers.

Roy joins me to discuss what he learned from speaking with hundreds of serving and former officers, why so many witnesses stayed silent for years, how police training can affect the way unusual incidents are observed and reported, and the continuing stigma surrounding the UFO subject in the UK.

We also get into some of th...

Andy and Pavel break down Ross Coulthart’s extraordinary new reporting on Skywatcher and what may have happened after the public-facing project went quiet.

Ross claims individuals and techniques connected to Skywatcher have effectively been taken “in-house”, with a covert US government operation at White Sands allegedly using the same Dog Whistle technology and psionic methods to summon, detect and even attempt to bring down UAP. He further claims the operation was personally authorised by President Trump and designed to circumvent the alleged Legacy Program.

We get into the El Paso shutdown, White Sands, the allege...

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Andy joins the Doomer Friday crew for a huge discussion after another packed week in UAP news.

We break down Dylan Borland’s extensive interview with Jesse Michaels, including whistleblower retaliation, restitution, disclosure and the extraordinary suggestion that humans may not ultimately be the ones in control.

Robert Bigelow is also back, speaking with George Knapp about recovered craft, legacy programs, blanket immunity for gatekeepers and the advice he gave President Trump on potentially acknowledging a non-human intelligence presence.

Plus, the fifth of...

Constitutional attorney Danny Sheehan returns for one of our most direct and grounded conversations yet.

Danny reveals what he says was a previously unknown role played by David Grusch in reviewing challenges to the security clearances of Lue Elizondo and Chris Mellon following their involvement with The New York Times.

He also accuses former AARO director Sean Kirkpatrick of ignoring named sources during Danny’s testimony, claiming Kirkpatrick would stop taking notes whenever specific individuals were identified, before later telling Congress that AARO had received no actionable details.

We also discuss:

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Andy joins Pavel for a deep dive into an increasingly divided UFO disclosure movement. They examine the new UAP NDA waiver, Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland’s warnings about AARO, ODNI and PURSUE, and whether whistleblowers are genuinely protected or being directed back into the same system they distrust.

They also unpack Lue Elizondo’s response to UAP Gerb, Ross Coulthart’s role in the growing controversy, the competing camps forming around disclosure and the mounting pressure on David Grusch to deliver on his 60-to-90-day timeline. Is this necessary scrutiny, deliberate division or a movement beginning to tur...

Area 52 creator Chris Ramsay joins Andy for a wide-ranging conversation about how a magician and puzzle creator with seven million subscribers became one of the most distinctive voices in UFO media. Chris explains why he remains low-conviction on most claims, how remote viewing and his experiences connected to the Monroe Institute changed his outlook, and why he believes the current disclosure debate may be distracting people from the real work.

Chris also discusses the alleged mobile underwater construction unit, the UFO cases and witnesses he finds most convincing, and why official confirmation may never satisfy the UFO...

Andy is joined by Jonathan Caplan KC, one of the UK’s leading criminal barristers and the author of Not for Disclosure: UFOs, The World’s Best-Kept Secret.

Drawing on five decades of interest in the subject, Jonathan explains why he believes the UFO phenomenon is real, why governments have kept it hidden and why, in his view, the evidence could meet the criminal standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt.

The conversation covers the alleged 1994 craft landing in Russia, Britain’s historic relationship with the United States on UFO matters, Five Eyes, Majestic 12, Rendlesham Forest, privat...

Andy is joined by Pavel from the Psychoactivo Podcast to take stock of a UFO topic caught between apparent political progress, persistent secrecy and growing frustration.

Three years after David Grusch’s historic congressional testimony about recovered craft and non-human biologics, has disclosure meaningfully moved forward, or are we still treading water?

They examine Eric Burlison’s latest comments on whistleblowers and the UAP Disclosure Act, what the announcement about waiving UAP-related NDAs actually changes, and why permission to speak is not the same as genuine legal protection.

Also discussed: former CIA officer Jame...

Author, explorer and researcher Brad Olsen joins Andy to investigate the enduring mysteries surrounding Antarctica.

Brad recounts his own journey to the frozen continent before exploring the extraordinary claims connected to Admiral Richard E. Byrd, Operation Highjump, alleged German bases, ancient maps, pyramid-shaped mountains and the Antarctic Treaty.

The conversation also examines reports of unusual radio signals emerging from beneath the ice, theories about hidden civilisations and Hollow Earth, and Brad’s belief that Antarctica may hold one of the most important secrets in the wider UFO disclosure story.

Where does documented history en...

President Donald Trump has reportedly directed government agencies to waive non-disclosure agreements for former officials and contractors who want to share relevant UAP information through authorised federal channels.

In this breaking news episode, Andy examines what the decision actually means, why witnesses must still approach AARO or the PURSUE task force, and why this is not yet a blanket declassification of UFO information.

Could figures such as Lue Elizondo, Eric Davis, James Lacatski or the witnesses interviewed by David Grusch now reveal more? Is this the major development Grusch suggested could happen within 60 to 90 days...

Andy and Pavel return to break down the latest developments surrounding the US government’s UFO disclosure push.

Dan Farah claims another tranche of evidence could arrive within weeks, with “next-level extraordinary stuff” potentially being released before the end of the year. Meanwhile, Dr Phil was reportedly given early access to the latest UFO files alongside a handwritten message from President Trump: “Have fun with this.” Is Dr Phil being positioned as a mainstream messenger for disclosure, or are people reading too much into it?

Also discussed: the revised UAP Disclosure Act amendment, the mysterious Reality Tr...

What if the biggest UFO mystery is not the craft, but the beings inside them?

Anthropologist Peter Skafish returns for a deep dive into the alleged occupants behind UAP. Are they biological beings, engineered avatars, artificial intelligence, or something stranger still?

We explore why witness reports of beings are often dismissed, even when the same witnesses are trusted on the craft themselves. Peter also examines the recurring humanoid forms, possible communication, motives, different reported types, and what another intelligence might reveal about life, culture and civilisation beyond humanity.

Peter also discusses his role...

Andy is joined by Pavel from Psicoactivo Podcast to discuss claims that the US government successfully lured or baited UAP during a classified operation.

They examine what the recently released files actually establish, whether officials have developed methods for attracting mysterious orbs, and what may still be hidden from the public.

Also discussed: Matthew Brown’s argument for conditional amnesty within the alleged Legacy Program, the crimes he says must not be ignored, Ross Coulthart’s comments about unreleased images of possible structures on the Moon, alleged secret American bases in Antarctica, and questions surrounding Chri...

Release 4 of the US government’s UFO files has arrived, bringing 23 videos, three NASA images and 14 documents spanning more than 70 years.

Andy reviews the most interesting footage, including several fast-moving objects and one unusually clear structure, before examining NASA’s STS-80 images and recent comments from NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman, who acknowledged that NASA has captured imagery it still cannot explain.

Also discussed:

Dr. Phil McGraw’s early access to the files and his White House advisory connection
An unknown object tracked near the Pantex nuclear weapons facility in 2015
Military Range Fouler...

Jason Samosa returns for part two of our huge conversation, as we move deeper into the Collins Elite, religious interpretations of the UFO phenomenon, demonic narratives, alien deception, hybrids, TTSA, and the modern disclosure movement.

We discuss whether some within government and intelligence circles may have viewed the phenomenon through a biblical or occult lens, how that belief system could influence secrecy, and why apocalyptic predictions and “something is coming” narratives can shape the way people behave.

Jason also gives his thoughts on To The Stars Academy, the hybrid narrative, competing factions around disclosure, and whet...

Jason Samosa joins me for part one of a huge conversation tracing the UFO topic from the post-war era through Roswell, Cold War secrecy, private industry, religious influence, and the early roots of disclosure resistance.

We discuss claims around Nazi technology, Operation Paperclip, why the post-World War II national security state created the perfect conditions for secrecy, what Roswell may represent in the wider story, and whether UFO secrecy was ever as simple as “the government knows aliens are real.”

Jason also explains why the modern disclosure debate may involve more than classified files and reco...

Welcome to another, of what we hope will become a regular weekly or bi-weekly catch-up between Andy from That UFO Podcast and Pavel from Psicoactivo.

In this episode, Andy and Pavel break down the latest major claims from Dr. Eric Davis, including his comments on alleged alien species, Skinwalker Ranch, Roswell, cattle mutilations, the hitchhiker effect and what can or cannot be said publicly.

The conversation also digs into the wider state of the UFO topic right now, including Gerb’s questioning, Hal Puthoff, Skywatcher, alleged orbs, counterintelligence concerns, the problem of cult-like belief systems, an...

Andy is back with a packed UFO news update as Roswell anniversary week collides with new disclosure rumours, congressional pressure and major debate inside the UAP community.

In this episode, Andy looks at the latest claims around a possible July 8th announcement, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments that an announcement is coming soon, David Grusch’s 60-to-90-day window, and the MKUltra hearing.

Also discussed: Ross Coulthart pressing Lue Elizondo over alleged Legacy Program connections, Elizondo’s response on Cuomo, Burchett and Elizondo appearing with Sean Hannity, UAP Gerb questioning Hal Puthoff and Avi Loeb on Fre...

Former United States Marine Michael Herrera joins That UFO Podcast to discuss his alleged 2009 encounter in Indonesia involving a massive advanced craft, armed personnel, and a story that has only become darker and more complex over time.

We get into what he says he saw, why he believes the object looked manufactured rather than traditionally “alien,” what happened afterwards, and how he now connects the incident to UAP secrecy, black programs, psionics, whistleblower protections, Congress, AARO, David Grusch, Steven Greer and the wider disclosure conversation.

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In this special live discussion, I’m joined by Pavel from the Psicoactivo Podcast to break down one of the biggest flashpoints currently developing in the UAP conversation.

Ross Coulthart and UAP Gerb have both raised serious questions around Lue Elizondo’s alleged past role within the so-called legacy program, his possible involvement in controlled disclosure, and whether he would be the right person to lead any future UAP transparency effort.

We discuss what Ross said, why Gerb’s comments have landed so strongly, the rumoured “UAP czar” role, the divide between controlled disclosure and full trans...

Andy joins the Doomer Friday crew for a wide-ranging discussion on the Disclosure Forum, the reaction to the event, the role of new UFO organisations, and whether the public is being prepared for genuine disclosure or a heavily managed version of it.

We get into the tone of the Forum, the awards, the lack of truly new information, and the bigger question of what these events are actually trying to achieve. The conversation also turns to whistleblowers like Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland, possible executive action around protections, the rumours of a UFO “czar”, and whether any futu...

This week’s UAP news is moving fast.

Andy breaks down the newly discussed UAP Science Advisory Council connected to Avi Loeb, the controversial appointment of Michael Shermer, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments on possible new UAP file drops, the upcoming MKUltra hearing, and the Disclosure Foundation Forum in Washington DC.

From Congress and science to intelligence secrecy, whistleblowers, psychology and public trust, the conversation is no longer just about whether UFOs are real. It is about who controls the information, who gets brought into the room, and whether we are seeing real transparency or the...

Andy is joined by John Priestland and Dr Martin Abbass from Unhidden, a UK-based, medically led organisation looking at one of the most overlooked parts of the UAP conversation: the people.

Their new report, *Preparing for Disclosure*, asks what might happen if society is confronted with information that fundamentally changes our understanding of reality, and whether governments, health systems, doctors, therapists and communities are remotely prepared for the psychological and social impact.

This conversation explores stigma, experiencers, mental health, ontological shock, public health preparedness, the role of clinicians, and why disclosure — if it ever comes — may...