No Clubs Required

In this episode of No Clubs Required, we sit down with Legal Marketing Association president Rachel Shields Williams to talk about leadership, emerging technology, and what it really takes to advocate for change inside a law firm. 

As a leader working at the intersection of data, systems, and innovation, Rachel shares what it’s like to champion new technologies to audiences that may be unfamiliar—or even resistant—while navigating the added scrutiny women often face when they’re direct, decisive, and persistent.  

She also outlines which technologies and data points matter most...

In this episode of No Clubs Required, we sit down with industry trailblazer Maura Brandt, Chief Marketing Officer at Crowell & Moring. We talk about strategies for authentic business development, the power of mentorship and sponsorship, and why consensus-building is a superpower in driving change. Maura also opens up about balancing a high-pressure career with family life, embracing flexibility, and rewriting the rulebook for professional success. 

This conversation is about the importance of building relationships to break barriers, no clubs required. 

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In this episode of No Clubs Required, we sit down with Rebecca Robison, Director of Admissions Recruitment and Engagement at the University of South Carolina Joseph F. Rice School of Law, to talk about resilience, reinvention, and embracing a career path you didn’t expect. 

Rebecca details her journey from law school to litigation to admissions—and the critical moment that changed everything: not passing the bar exam on her first try. She shares how that experience reshaped her understanding of success, the role an extraordinary mentor played in helping her rebuild her confidence, and why ch...

In this episode of “No Clubs Required,” we sit down with Morgan Shaw Parker, President and COO of the WNBA’s Atlanta Dream, to talk about leadership, resilience, and redefining success in spaces not built for you. 

From her start as an intern with the Kansas City Chiefs to becoming the NFL’s first female Vice President of Communications, Morgan’s story is one of grit, heart, and intention. She shares lessons learned from mentors like Lamar Hunt and Arthur Blank, what it takes to lead through change, and why she believes doing good things for the righ...

In this episode of “No Clubs Required,” we sit down with Marianne Talbot, Chief Marketing and Business Development Officer at Bailey Glasser, to talk about grit, creativity, and the courage it takes to know your own value.  

From her early work in civil rights law—including time at the NAACP Legal Defense Fund and the Department of Justice on the Rodney King case—to her years as a litigator, law professor, entrepreneur, and now legal marketing leader, Marianne’s career has been anything but conventional. She shares her seven essential elements of success, why every lawyer needs a...

In this episode of No Clubs Required, we sit down with Toni Wells, founder of Bespoke Marketing Partners, to talk about carving your own path, embracing autonomy, and reshaping what success looks like in the legal industry.

With two decades of experience inside top firms and now as a consultant and coach, Toni has built a career centered on empowering underrepresented voices. She shares how her journey from in-house leadership to launching her own consulting business has shaped her perspective on balance, belonging, and the power of building community.

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In this episode of No Clubs Required, we sit down with Nancy Kostakos, former Chief Marketing Officer at Cooley LLP, to explore the power of brand, the importance of authenticity, and what it takes to stand out in a profession where everyone seems the same. 

With decades of experience leading marketing at some of the nation’s top law firms, Nancy has witnessed firsthand how clarity of purpose and personal branding can transform not just how firms are perceived, but how they lead.  

This is a conversation about rejecting the generic, champi...

In this episode of No Clubs Required, we sit down with Mariana Loose, Chief Marketing Officer at Alston & Bird, for a candid conversation about doing the hard work, advocating for yourself and your clients, and taking initiative. 

A legal marketing lifer, Mariana has spent more than 25 years in law firms of all sizes and specialties. We talk about taking career development into your own hands, the shifting dynamics between marketing and business development, and how to advocate for yourself in a traditionally rigid professional structure.  

If you’ve ever had...

In this episode of No Clubs Required, we sit down with Debbie Foster, CEO and Founder of Affinity Consulting Group, to talk about building better businesses—and better leaders—by challenging the status quo. 

With more than 25 years of experience helping law firms solve complex problems, Debbie shares how strategic alignment, honest conversations, and a focus on relationships can reshape not just organizations, but entire industries.  

We talk about what it really takes for law firms to innovate, how to build alignment without chasing consensus, and why creating space for di...

In this episode of No Clubs Required, we sit down with Deb Knupp, Founder and CEO of GrowthPlay, to explore how a focus on firm culture, leadership, and business development can reshape the legal industry. 

With more than two decades of experience helping law firms align their strategies, talent, and client relationships, Deb shares how authentic connection, culture-driven leadership, and a service-first mindset can unlock success in unexpected ways. From breaking down barriers within firms to upending outdated ideas about rainmaking, Deb's journey is a masterclass in building a career—and a company—on your...

In the second episode of No Clubs Required, we sit down with Amanda Brandenburg, Founder and CEO of OpusLex Partners, to talk about bold moves, trusting your gut, and building something that truly fits.

After deciding law school wasn’t the path for her, Amanda transitioned into legal staffing and recruiting—quickly rising to the top at two of the country’s largest firms. In 2018, she launched her own: a woman-owned legal recruiting company focused on delivering a high-touch, high-integrity approach to every search.

Amanda shares how her career pivots led to purpose, and why follow...

In this debut episode of No Clubs Required, we sit down with Felice Wagner, Executive Director and General Counsel of The Trial Network, to talk about the real power of connection.

With decades of experience navigating the legal industry, Felice has seen firsthand how transformative it can be when women show up for each other, not just as mentors, but as advocates, collaborators, and champions. She shares her journey from practicing law to leading national initiatives, and opens up about why redefining networking as relationship-building with purpose is key to changing the game for women in law...