Second Verse
🎙 Second Verse – Because it’s never too late to make music. Are you an indie artist or creative dreaming of a second chance at your music career? Second Verse is the podcast that celebrates independent musicians, singer-songwriters, and artists who got started—or started again—after a more traditional career. Join host Becky Boyland, a singer-songwriter and music branding expert, as she interviews indie artists who prove that success isn’t just for the young and major-label backed. Each episode dives into real-life stories of artists navigating their second verse in music—overcoming fears, finding their audience, and making their creative dreams...
Small Steps, Big Impact: Building Your Creative Confidence
Building Confidence Through Small Steps: Insights from Second Verse Podcast
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland emphasizes the importance of building confidence through small steps. She shares personal experiences, including a transformative songwriting retreat in Scotland. Becky highlights how taking minor actions can snowball into greater self-assurance. Featuring stories from past guests like Ben Kintisch, Kelly Hastings, Greig Watts, and Chris Evans, she illustrates how simple, consistent efforts can lead to significant progress in music careers. Becky also addresses common confidence busters, such as comparison and perfectionism, and provides practical micro habits for artists...
How to Bring Others into Your Ecosystem: Collaboration for Indie Music Artists
The Power of Collaboration for Indie Artists
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland explores the transformative power of collaboration for indie musicians. She breaks down why working together is crucial, not just in co-writing or production, but also in building community and maintaining accountability. Becky shares her own experiences and provides a step-by-step guide on how to find and foster successful creative partnerships. The episode concludes with her top six benefits of collaborating, emphasizing the importance of community and shared growth in achieving musical success. Tune in to hear inspiring stories and get practical...
How to Build a Creative Ecosystem
Building Your Creative Ecosystem: Nurturing Sustainable Artistry for Indie Musicians
In this episode of Second Verse, hosted by Becky Boyland, indie music artists are guided on how to create and nurture a creative ecosystem that supports sustainable artistry. Sponsored by Attitude Creativity, the episode covers the importance of establishing an effective website and brand messaging. Becky emphasizes moving from clarity about one's artistic message to building a supportive environment that fosters growth. Key components include creative spaces, people, systems, and sustainability. Listeners are encouraged to develop intentional creative zones, build supportive circles, utilize structured systems, and prioritize...
How to Clarify Your Message as an Artist
Clarify Your Message as an Indie Artist: Practical Steps for Success
This episode of Second Verse, sponsored by Attitude Creativity, delves into the importance of clarity for indie music artists. The host discusses how having a clear message can help artists stand out and connect with their audience, emphasizing the need for consistent brand messaging across their website and social platforms. She offers three practical steps to craft a clear message: defining a one-liner that captures the essence of their music, testing it with friends for authenticity, and consistently applying it across all platforms. The episode concludes...
Imposter Syndrome and How to Push Through It
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Overcoming Imposter Syndrome: Embracing Your Creative Journey
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland explores the impacts of imposter syndrome on indie music artists and the ways it hinders their creative journeys. Becky shares her personal stories and insights from interviews with fellow artists to shed light on the pervasive nature of doubt as they navigate their second act in music. The episode delves into mindset challenges, offering three practical shifts: reframing fear, finding connection over comparison, and rooting identity in story, not stats. Becky emphasizes...
From Law to Lyrics: Steven McDonald's Music Renaissance
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Crafting a Musical Journey: Steven McDonald's Return to Songwriting
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky welcomes songwriter and lawyer Steven McDonald from Edinburgh, Scotland. They explore his musical journey, starting from his early influences in a musically rich family to his pandemic-driven return to songwriting. Steven shares insights on balancing his legal career with his music passion, the significance of physical music formats, and the value of perseverance. With his debut album Songs About Love, Steven illustrates how meaningful music can be created in life's second act. The...
Healing Waters & Profitable Paths: Bree Noble’s Second Verse
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Rediscovering Dreams: Bree Noble's Journey from Finance to Music Entrepreneurship
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland interviews Bree Noble, a singer-songwriter who transitioned from being a finance director at an opera company to founding Women of Substance Radio. Bree shares her experience of pivoting from a corporate career to pursuing her passion for music, emphasizing the importance of confidence, community, and treating art as a business. She discusses how she managed to sustain her music career through strategic planning and leveraging connections, while also offering valuable advice...
Life, Death & Music: Benjamin Kintisch’s Journey to “Life Review: The Hospice Musical”
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Finding Harmony in Hospice: Benjamin Kintisch's Journey with Life Review: The Hospice Musical
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland speaks with Benjamin Kintisch, a chaplain, music teacher, and cantor, about his transformation from a cantor to the creator of Life Review: The Hospice Musical. Kintisch shares how chaplaincy experiences shaped his musical, emphasizing music as a medium for healing and connection. The discussion covers imposter syndrome, the importance of saying yes to creative opportunities, and the evolution of Life Review through the COVID pandemic. He offers insights...
From Almost Signed to Fully Called: Bryan Boliver’s Music Journey
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Trusting the Long Winding Road with Bryan Boliver: Embracing Creativity and Faith in Music
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland speaks with Bryan Boliver, a singer-songwriter, worship leader, producer, and content creator. Bryan shares his inspiring journey from rock band dreams to worship ministry and full-time music production, emphasizing the importance of enjoying the craft of creating. The discussion highlights overcoming perfectionism, the role of technology in enhancing abilities, and the value of collaboration. Bryan's story underscores that God's timing is perfect and that each...
Second Verse’s Second Verse: It’s the Podcast’s Season 2
Becky Boyland, singer-songwriter and marketing strategist, introduces Season 2 of her podcast Second Verse, which explores the stories of indie artists rediscovering their passion for music. The podcast features resilient musicians transitioning to new chapters, including those who balanced artistry with motherhood, teaching, business, and more. Season 2 delves deeper into personal experiences such as an artist finding his calling and a songwriter inspired by hospice care. Becky also shares her own journey and provides practical advice for creatives. Listeners are encouraged to subscribe and share their stories, embracing the idea that it’s never too late to revive one's musical cr...
The Journey Back to Music: A Season 1 Celebration
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Finding Your Second Verse: Stories of Returning to Music Against All Odds
In this special episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland celebrates the completion of season one by revisiting powerful moments from the podcast. With inspiring stories from artists like Adassa, Kelly Hastings, Rick Molloy, and many more, Becky explores the journeys of musicians who returned to their passion after facing life-changing challenges. From vocal paralysis to career shifts, these stories highlight the power of community, mentorship, and the belief that it's never too late to follow your dreams...
Achieving Music One String at a Time: Ryan Pryor, Dulcimer Guitar, and Inglewood Instruments
Rediscovering Musical Joy with Ryan Pryor of Inglewood Instruments
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland sits down with Ryan Pryor, Founder of Inglewood Instruments and creator of the Cumberland dulcimer guitar. Ryan shares his unique journey from studying music in college to pivoting through various careers before discovering a new passion for designing instruments. Listen in as they discuss the importance of making music accessible, the process of instrument innovation, and how trying something different can reignite creativity. Perfect for both beginners and seasoned musicians, this episode offers inspiration and practical insights.
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Kelly Hastings on Motherhood, Mental Health, and Making Music After The Voice and Y Llais
Kelly Hastings: Reclaiming Dreams, Embracing Music, and Raising Mental Health Awareness
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland converses with Kelly Hastings, a resilient singer-songwriter and mother of six, who reached the semi-finals on The Voice UK in 2023 and competed in Y Llais (the Welsh version of The Voice). Kelly shares her inspiring journey of returning to music after raising her children, the empowering experience of pursuing dreams later in life, and the healing power of songwriting. This candid discussion delves into overcoming rejection, the importance of mental health awareness, and the transformative force of...
Wired Differently: How Neurodivergence Fuels the Creative Path
Unmasking the Hidden Superpower: Neurodivergence and Creativity in Music
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland dives deep into how neurodivergence, particularly ADHD, manifests in the lives of artists and why it is often a hidden superpower. Becky shares her personal journey of navigating ADHD, from the initial chaotic symptoms to the profound sense of relief and empowerment upon getting a diagnosis. The episode explores the intersection of neurodivergence and creativity, illustrating how differences in brain wiring contribute to musical innovation and artistic inspiration. It also offers actionable advice on embracing these unique traits to...
Just Start: How David Rosen Built a Life in Music, Podcasting, and "The Pup Pups"
From Vinyl to Film Scores: How David Rosen Found His Musical Calling
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with David Rosen, a versatile indie artist whose journey spans from growing up in a family-owned record store to producing rap music, composing film scores, and creating comedy rock about his pets. David shares the importance of letting one creative endeavor fuel another, and reveals insights into building long-term collaborative relationships. From using different DAWs to making movie-inspired music and creating eclectic projects like The Pup Pups, David's story is a testament to stacking your...
Singing His Song: Phil Lovell’s Journey from Welsh Classrooms to Songwriting
Phil Lovell: From Classroom to Songwriting - A Journey of Creativity and Persistence
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with Phil Lovell, a retired teacher turned songwriter who crafts thoughtful songs in English and Welsh. Phil shares his journey from nurturing his musical passion quietly while working in education for over 30 years to diving fully into songwriting and performing after retirement. They discuss Phil’s creative process, the impact of music on culture, the challenges of self-promotion, and the importance of pursuing one’s passion at any stage in life. Phil’s story emphas...
Building Momentum: The Art of Saying Yes with Music Mentor Greig Watts
Finding Success by Saying Yes: Greig Watts' Journey from Banking to Hit Songwriting
In this episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland interviews Greig Watts, a music publisher and songwriting mentor who transitioned from a career in banking to co-founding DWB Music. Watts shares his inspiring journey of pursuing his passion for music, the importance of mentorship, and the power of saying 'yes' to opportunities. He discusses developing and guiding songwriters, the significance of being accountable, and how to keep the creative spark alive. Greig's story is a testament to the courage needed to follow...
Chris Evans of AudioGust: Why It’s Time to Start, Ship, and Repeat
Hooky Anthems and Disenchanted Optimists: Chris Evans Finds Joy in Music's Second Act
Join host Becky Boyland on the Second Verse podcast as she chats with Chris Evans, an alt/indie rock artist, songwriter, and producer known as AudioGust. Dive into Chris's fascinating journey from '80s rock bands to a successful software career and back to music. Learn how he built his own soundproof studio, released over three dozen songs, and collaborates with artists worldwide. Chris shares valuable insights on balancing logic and heart, finding creative joy, and approaching music with a blend of precision and...
Rebuilding My Voice: Becky Boyland’s Vocal Cord Recovery feat. Whitney Nichole
Healing Through Music: Overcoming Vocal Trauma with Guest Whitney Nichole
In this deeply personal episode, host Becky Boyland shares her compelling journey of overcoming vocal trauma following major spine surgery. Initially facing the terrifying possibility of never singing again due to a paralyzed vocal cord, Becky describes the emotional and physical challenges she faced. She highlights the pivotal role of vocal coach Whitney Nichole, who introduced Becky to transformative techniques like straw phonation. Together, they worked meticulously to rebuild her voice, ultimately leading Becky to new vocal heights. This episode is a testament to perseverance, hope, and...
From FBI Agent to Music Maven: Tia Hoffer’s Unconventional Journey
From FBI Agent to Music Composer: Tia Hoffer's Journey
In this episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland interviews Tia Hoffer, who has successfully transitioned from being an FBI Special Agent to a production music composer. They discuss Tia's early love for music, her fascinating career in psychology and law enforcement, and the mindset shifts that led her to pursue a music career later in life. Tia shares insights on the importance of starting imperfectly, protecting creative energy, and the numerous opportunities available in music beyond traditional artist roles. She also talks about her creative...
Elephant Ears: How Alfredo Paz Found His Way Back to Music After Burnout
Rediscovering the Creative Spark: Alfredo Paz's Journey as Elephant Ears
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland interviews Alfredo Paz, known professionally as Elephant Ears—a talented producer, songwriter, and sound designer. Alfredo shares his journey of leaving and then rediscovering his passion for music after years in the sound engineering and film industry. He discusses the significance of collaboration, the challenges of balancing life and creativity, and the emotional depth he brings to his music. Highlights include Alfredo's insights on the music industry, his unique creation processes, and the importance of authenticity and community in...
Adassa’s Inspiring Story: Music, Miracles, and Making “Encanto”
Adassa's Journey: From Paralysis to Disney's Encanto
In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland interviews Adassa, the bilingual Afro-Latina voice actress, singer, and songwriter. Adassa shares her remarkable journey of resilience, from facing a sudden health crisis and total paralysis to achieving a breakout role as Dolores Madrigal in Disney's Encanto. The conversation touches on the importance of community, consistency, and authenticity in the music industry. Adassa also offers practical tips and wisdom for indie artists striving to find their voice and purpose in challenging times.
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MS Changed Her Life—Music Gave It Back: Cindy Slee’s Second Verse
From Nursing to Music Production: Cindy's Inspirational Journey
In this episode, Becky welcomes Cindy Slee to discuss her profound journey from a musically inspired childhood to a dedicated nurse, and finally becoming a full-time musician after being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. Cindy shares how her early love for music, fostered by her family's influence, evolved from enjoying the piano stylings of Liberace to mastering the guitar influenced by The Beatles. Despite a thriving nursing career, her love for music persisted, eventually becoming her primary focus. Cindy delves into how her MS diagnosis necessitated a career shift, leading...
Finding My Own Second Verse in Music
Finding My Second Verse: A Solo Journey with Becky Boyland, the Host of Second Verse Podcast
In this special solo episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland shares her inspiring personal journey to her music dream. She emphasizes that it's never too late to return to your passion, offering her own story as proof. The episode covers her early love for music, including her journey from playing trumpet in high school to studying Bible and Educational Ministries in college. A pivotal moment came when she rediscovered the guitar, which took her musical passion to a...
Grief, Neurodivergence, and Healing: Bob Strachan’s Musical Revival
Bob Strachan's Musical Resurgence: Healing Through Songwriting and Rediscovery
In this episode of 'Second Verse,' host Becky Boyland interviews Bob Strachan, an award-winning singer-songwriter from Scotland. Bob shares his journey of returning to music during the lockdown after initial success in the 2000s. He discusses his upbringing amidst diverse musical influences, experiences of personal loss, and how music has been a pivotal tool for healing and reconnecting with his roots. Bob opens up about dealing with grief over his father's death, his experiences with cult-like churches, and his diagnosis of neurodivergence. His journey highlights the transformative...
Producing Music for All: Jack Marchant’s Music Journey
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Jack Marchant: The Power of Persistence and Community in Music Production
In this episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland interviews London-based music producer Jack Marchant. They discuss his journey from childhood experiences in music studios with his dad's band to overcoming physical health challenges and making a full-time career in music production. Key topics include the importance of community, the reality of building a sustainable music career, and the value of mentorship. Jack shares insights on the struggle of pricing work fairly, the significance of authenticity...
From Porch Dreams to Songwriting: Rose Calkins' Second Act
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In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland explores the inspirational journey of Rose Calkins, a singer-songwriter, published author, and artist, whose life is a testament to resilience, creativity, and faith. Rose shares how she balanced practical responsibilities with her artistic passions, drawing from early influences like theater and family music traditions. The conversation delves into pivotal moments, such as joining a songwriting class during the uncertain times of 2020, which reignited her musical dreams. With insights on overcoming fear, embracing community, and managing a multi-faceted creative career, Rose’s story is a...
Pursuing Passion: From Tech to Music with Rick Molloy
In this episode of Second Verse, Becky interviews Rick Molloy, a tech veteran turned full-time musician. Rick shares his inspiring journey of leaving a two-decade-long career in tech to pursue his passion for music. He discusses his transition, challenges, and the triumphs of creating a career in the arts. The conversation dives into Rick's experiences in both industries, his custom guitar business, the importance of community, and the transformative power of music and collaboration. Listeners will be motivated by Rick's story of resilience, community-building, and doing what they love.
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It’s Never Too Late for Your Music Dream—Introducing Second Verse
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Second Chances: Embracing Your Musical Dreams
In this introductory episode of 'Second Verse,' host Becky Boyland, a singer-songwriter with extensive experience in marketing and brand messaging, invites listeners to rekindle their musical aspirations. Becky talks about the journey from treating music as a hobby to making it a significant part of life. She shares stories of other indie musicians who have made similar transitions from traditional careers to follow their passion for music. Additionally, Becky offers tips and insights to help artists grow their audience and achieve their...