Revitalize My Church
Hosted by Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant, two respected coaches in the field of church renewal, the Revitalize My Church podcast provides real-world advice and encouragement in each episode. In addition to insights provided by Bart and Nathan, you’ll also hear interviews with pastors and church leaders who have personally been involved in a successful church turnaround. They discuss the revitalization journey, keys to renewal, and lessons learned.
Ep. 031 | Maximize Christmas for Church Revitalization
How to Leverage Christmas for Church Revitalization | Church Growth Strategies
In this essential episode for church leaders, Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant share proven Christmas outreach strategies that can revitalize your church and attract new visitors during the most opportune season of the year.
Did you know that 60-70% of Americans attend a Christmas church service annually? Learn how to maximize this incredible opportunity for church growth and community engagement with practical, budget-friendly ideas that work for churches of any size.
WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
Why Christmas outperforms Easter for visitor attendance
The 3-step framework for successful...
Ep. 030 | A Real Story of Church Revitalization
A Real Story of Church Revitalization - Show Notes
How Pastor Tim Wilmetti Led Pataskala Grace Church From Crisis to Growth
In this episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, host Bart Blair interviews Pastor Tim Wilmetti about his six-year journey revitalizing Pataskala Grace Church in Ohio. This real-world case study offers practical insights for pastors and church leaders facing similar challenges.
What Happens When a Church Loses Half Its Attendance Overnight
Pastor Tim shares the dramatic story of how Pataskala Grace went from 162 to 76 attendees in a single week when the previous pastor...
Ep. 029 | Hopeful Vision and Leadership Development
CHURCH REVITALIZATION BREAKTHROUGH: Master Vision Casting & Leadership Development
Are you struggling to energize your declining church? In this powerful episode, church revitalization experts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant reveal the final two essentials that can transform stagnant congregations: creating hopeful vision and developing strong leaders.
WHAT YOU'LL DISCOVER:
The 4-Component Vision Framework Every Church Needs:
Why Question: Defining your biblical purpose
Who Question: Clarifying your cultural identity
How Question: Building your strategic plan
Where Question: Painting your preferred future
Why Most Churches Fail at Leadership Development (and how to fix it)
The Simple Apprentice Model th...
Ep. 28 | The Power of Church Hospitality | Mary Ann Sibley
From Parking Lot to Pew: The Power of Church Hospitality
Church Hospitality Can Transform Your Ministry
In this episode of Revitalize My Church, host Bart Blair interviews MaryAnn Sibley, a church hospitality expert who helps declining churches build effective volunteer teams and create welcoming environments that turn first-time visitors into regular attendees.
How First Impressions Ministry Changes Everything
MaryAnn shares her powerful testimony of going from Buddhist background to church leadership, emphasizing how strategic hospitality volunteers in the parking lot and at church doors made all the difference in her first church experience. Learn...
Ep. 027 | Joyful Hospitality and Meaningful Membership | Nathan and Bart
Episode 27 - Joyful Hospitality & Meaningful Membership
Episode Details
Podcast:Â Revitalized My Church
Episode:Â 27
Hosts:Â Bart Blair & Nathan Bryant (Executive Director, Assist Church Expansion)
Release Date:Â September 1, 2025
Topic:Â Church Revitalization Essentials #7 & #8
Episode Summary
After a brief hiatus in August, Bart and Nathan return to continue their series on church revitalization essentials based on a framework from Terry Long and the North Carolina Baptists. This episode focuses on two critical elements that can make or break a church's revitalization efforts: creating an atmosphere of joyful hospitality and establishing meaningful membership that goes beyon...
Ep. 26 | Revitalizing Children’s Ministry | Lisa Rowland
Revitalizing Children's Ministry: Essential Strategies for Churches Ready to Welcome Families
Is your church struggling to attract and retain families with children? In this comprehensive episode, host Bart Blair interviews Lisa Rowland, a seasoned children's ministry leader and consultant with Life Catalyst Consulting, who shares over 20 years of practical experience helping churches of all sizes build thriving children's programs.
Lisa's unique journey from corporate business management to children's ministry leadership provides valuable insights for church leaders looking to create welcoming, safe, and effective programs that partner with families in discipleship. Whether your church hasn't had children...
Ep. 25 | Gospel-Centered Fellowship and Missional Engagement | Nathan and Bart
Gospel-Centered Fellowship and Missional Engagement for Church Revitalization
Episode OverviewIn this milestone episode marking one year of the Revitalize My Church podcast, hosts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant continue their series on the 10 essentials for church revitalization, based on insights from Terry Long of the North Carolina Baptist Association. They explore two critical elements that struggling churches need: gospel-centered fellowship and missional engagement. This episode reveals why surface-level community isn't enough and how churches can become truly missionary-minded in their local context.
What Is Gospel-Centered Fellowship and Why Surface Level Community Isn't Enough
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Ep. 024 | Implement the DREAM Strategy | Brian Moss
Pastor Brian Moss of Oak Ridge Church shares his proven DREAM framework that transformed a dying congregation of 30 into a thriving church with 101% small group participation over 25 years.
Brian, a former computer engineer who didn't grow up in church, reveals how he developed a systematic approach to balance the five fundamental church purposes: worship, fellowship, discipleship, ministry, and evangelism. He breaks down his DREAM acronym - Design services for lost people, Reach with the gospel, Engage in growth, Activate in ministry, and Mobilize for missions.
Key topics include creating guest-friendly services without compromising the gospel, systematic discipleship through...
Ep. 23 | Text Based Preaching and Intentional Discipleship in Church Revitalization | Nathan and Bart
Text Based Preaching and Intentional Discipleship in Church Revitalization
 Join hosts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant as they explore two essential elements for successful church revitalization: text-driven preaching and intentional discipleship. Drawing from insights by Terry Long of the North Carolina Baptist Association, this episode reveals why these biblical foundations are game-changers for struggling churches.Key Topics:
Text-Driven Preaching:Â Learn the crucial difference between teaching and preaching, how to strategically choose Scripture passages for your church's specific needs, and why application matters more than information transfer. Intentional Discipleship:Â Discover why discipleship doesn't happen by accident, how...
Ep. 022 | Building Healthy Churches | AJ Mathieu
Building Healthy Churches: A Conversation with AJ Mathieu of The Malphurs Group
In this episode, we sit down with AJ Mathieu from The Malphurs Group to discuss church revitalization, leadership development, and building healthy churches. Drawing from his decade of experience in ministry and the legacy of Dr. Aubrey Malphurs, AJ shares valuable insights on how churches can move from decline to vitality.
Key Quote "We can't make anybody change. And we tell every single church we work with, we will lead you through this with the greatest capability and resources we have. But we cannot...
Ep. 021 | Prayer and Worship in Church Revitalization | 10 Necessary Elements in Church Revitalization
Essentials for Church Revitalization - Part 1
Episode Overview
In this episode, hosts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant introduce a new mini-series focusing on the "10 Essentials for Church Revitalization." They cover the first two essentials in depth: Dependent Prayer and Christ-Centered Worship.
Introduction
Hosts: Bart Blair (Director of Church Revitalization) and Nathan Bryant (Executive Director) from Assist Church Expansion New episodes are released on the 1st and 15th of each month This episode kicks off a mini-series based on content from Terry Long of North Carolina Baptists The 10 Essentials for Church Revitalization Dependent Prayer ...
Ep. 020 | Leading Leaders in the Local Church | Jason Allison
Episode Overview
In this episode, Bart interviews Jason Allison about the challenges and opportunities of leading leaders in normative-sized churches. Jason shares insights from his extensive experience working with churches through multiple organizations and provides practical guidance for pastors looking to develop leaders rather than just delegate tasks.
Guest Bio
Jason Allison serves in multiple roles supporting church leaders:
Director of Church Strengthening for Converge Mid-Atlantic
Staff member at a church plant near Columbus, Ohio
Founder of the Church Talk Project and host of the Church Talk Podcast
Vision Day consultant for 95Network
Key Discussion Points
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Ep. 019 | Outreach and Evangelism | The Farming Model of Evangelism
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Episode SummaryIn this episode, Bart and Nathan discuss the "Farming Model" of evangelism, building on principles shared in Episode 17. They explore a strategic approach to both individual and corporate evangelism based on the parable of the seed from Matthew 13. Â Hosts: Bart Blair Nathan Bryant (Executive Director of Assist Church Expansion)
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Key Points
The Need for Evangelism
A 2021 LifeWay research study found 71% of people are open to hearing someone's life story when meeting them for the first time In the UK, 75% of non-Christians who had conversations with Christian friends about Jesus fel...
Ep. 018 | Lead Your Church Out of Maintenance Mode | Dan Reiland
Lead Your Church Out Of Maintenance Mode
Signs Your Church May Be in Maintenance Mode with Dan Reiland
Episode Overview
In this episode, Bart interviews Dan Reiland, an experienced executive pastor and church leadership coach, about identifying and addressing church stagnation. Dan shares insights from his article "Seven Signs That Your Church May Be In Maintenance Mode" and provides practical guidance for church leaders looking to move their churches forward.
Guest Bio
Dan Reiland is a veteran executive pastor with over four decades of experience Served as John Maxwell's first and only...
Ep. 017 | Evangelism and Outreach | 6 Principles of Effective Evangelism
Episode 17: Show Notes
The 6 Core Principles of Effective Church Evangelism - Revitalize My Church Podcast
What Are the Most Effective Principles for Church Evangelism and Outreach?
In this episode of Revitalize My Church, hosts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant discuss six foundational principles for effective church evangelism. These principles are designed to help church leaders develop a more strategic and sustainable approach to reaching their communities.
Why Do Traditional Church Evangelism Methods Often Fail?
Nathan shares his early experiences with evangelism, including teaching Evangelism Explosion classes where dozens made decisions for Christ but...
Ep. 16 | Hope For Dying Churches | Mark Hallock
In this episode, we sit down with Mark Hallock, author of "God's Not Done With Your Church," to explore practical strategies for church revitalization and replanting. Mark shares his journey from youth ministry to leading church replanting efforts, and provides valuable insights for churches facing decline.
Key Topics Covered:
The difference between church revitalization and church replanting
Six key indicators of a church's readiness for revitalization:Â
Recognition of reality
Hearts that are humble
Commitment to the Bible
Desire to reach the community
Willingness to do whatever it takes
Belief that God can revitalize
Understanding partnership levels between healthy a...
Ep. 15 | Finding Your Next Pastor | Ed Short
Episode 15: Show Notes
Episode Overview
In this insightful episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, host Bart Blair engages in a deep conversation with Ed Short, a seasoned ministry leader whose experience spans over four decades in pastoral ministry and church consulting. Their discussion provides crucial insights for churches navigating the challenging waters of pastoral transition, with particular emphasis on situations involving the departure of long-tenured leaders.
The Foundation: Assessment Before Action
Ed Short emphasizes that the key to a successful pastoral transition begins long before the search itself. Churches must first...
Ep. 14 | Five Books You Should Read in 2025
Bart highlights 5 books to read in 2025 to help you revitalize your church!
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1. Canoeing the Mountains - Tod Bolsinger
Subtitle: Christian Leadership in Uncharted Territory
Think of Lewis and Clark showing up at the Rocky Mountains with canoes - that's exactly what it feels like trying to lead a church today with methods that worked decades ago. Tod shows us how to adapt when our old playbook isn't working anymore, mixing practical leadership wisdom with deep spiritual insights about leading change in uncharted territory.
“Most of our congregations are filled wit...
Ep.13 | Leading Change Without Losing People
In this episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, hosts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant discuss the importance of cascading communication and maintaining unity when leading a church through revitalization. They emphasize that getting agreement and buy-in from core leaders, mid-level leaders, and key influencers before announcing major changes to the entire congregation is critical for success.
Nathan advises meeting with each leadership group multiple times to allow people with different personalities and decision-making styles time to process proposed changes. He also recommends engaging potential holdouts individually to understand their concerns. Both hosts stress the need to cast a...
Ep.12 | Church Growth Through Small Groups | Adam Ehrlichman
In this illuminating episode of Revitalize My Church, Build Groups founder Adam Ehrlichman shares his expertise on developing effective small group ministries. Drawing from his experience of doubling group participation at multiple churches, Ehrlichman introduces a practical six-part framework for small groups success: discover, develop, deploy, connect, coach, and care.
The conversation explores how churches can successfully integrate small groups alongside Sunday School programs, with each ministry serving unique but complementary purposes. Ehrlichman emphasizes the importance of proper leader development, warning against the common mistake of placing leaders before preparing them.
Particularly valuable is his...
Ep.11 | Navigating Church Governance for Effective Revitalization
In this episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, hosts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant discuss the importance of clear church governance and polity in revitalization efforts. Many struggling churches face challenges related to leadership structure, accountability, and decision-making processes. These issues can hinder progress and make it difficult for churches to move forward in a unified direction.
The conversation begins by addressing common scenarios churches face, such as long-time influential elders resisting change, constitutions that no longer serve the current needs of the church, and a lack of clarity regarding the pastor's role and authority. Bryant...
Ep.10 | Co-vocational and Bi-vocational Ministry for Pastors | Eric Hoke
In this engaging conversation, Eric Hoke discusses his journey from traditional full-time ministry to becoming a co-vocational pastor and author of "Market Street Pastor." The discussion centers on the crucial distinction between bivocational ministry (working another job temporarily until full-time ministry becomes viable) and co-vocational ministry (intentionally maintaining both church and marketplace roles as a long-term strategy).
Hoke shares his experience planting All Saints Church in the Bronx, where financial realities led him to discover the unexpected benefits of co-vocational ministry. These benefits include better community connection, increased lay leader involvement, and improved pastoral sustainability. He notes that...
Ep.09 | Rock #5 - The Launch
In this episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, hosts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant discuss the fifth "big rock" of church revitalization - launching the new vision and plan. They explain that while "launch" can refer to a specific kickoff Sunday service, it's really a season of putting all the pieces of the plan in place and beginning to implement them.Â
Just as the Israelites built the tabernacle in stages and conquered the Promised Land in phases, and NASA conducts extensive preparations before a space launch, a church must do a lot of groundwork before the public "l...
Ep.08 | The Value of Vision in Church Revitalization | David Hsu
In this episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, host Bart Blair interviews Pastor David Hsu from West Houston Christian Church. Pastor David shares his story of immigrating from Taiwan to the United States at age 14, working as an electrical engineer after college, then feeling called to ministry and attending Dallas Seminary.Â
In 1993, Pastor David joined a new Chinese immigrant church plant in Houston called West Houston Chinese Church. He started out doing youth ministry and working with second generation English-speaking adults. In 2000, at just age 35, he took over as senior pastor when the founding pastor retired an...
The Power of Circles: How Small Groups Spark Growth in Church Revitalization
In this Bonus Episode of the show, we explore the transformative power of small groups in church revitalization with Dustin Godshall, Lead Pastor of Thrive Church in York, PA. Over the past decade, Dustin has led his congregation from a struggling 60-member church to a thriving community of 300+, largely through the strategic implementation of small groups.
Dustin shares his journey of transitioning from a traditional Sunday School model to a dynamic small group ministry. He discusses the challenges faced, including resistance to change and the need for persistent vision-casting. Listeners will gain insights into the "why" behind...
Ep.07 | Rock #4 - Strategic Plan
In this episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, hosts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant discuss the importance of developing a comprehensive strategic plan when working to revitalize a church. This topic is the fourth of their "five big rocks" of church revitalization, following unity, leadership, and team.
The conversation begins by addressing the common objection that strategic planning is too "business-like" for the church. Nathan point out that God Himself is a planner, as evidenced by His creation of the universe and His redemptive plan. The hosts cite several biblical passages that support the importance of planning, including L...
Ep.06 | Cultivate a Thriving Church Culture | Keith Minier
In this episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, host Bart Blair interviews Pastor Keith Minier of Grace Fellowship Church in Ohio. Pastor Keith shares his experiences leading the church over the past 20 years, from when he first arrived as a young pastor to a congregation of just 65 people, to the thriving multi-site church it is today with over 4,000 attendees.
Pastor Keith recounts how he transitioned from working as a chemist to becoming a full-time pastor, emphasizing that growing a megachurch was never his goal. Instead, he focused on pursuing Jesus and doing the next right thing. He discusses the...
Ep.05 | Rock #3 - Teamwork
In this episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, hosts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant discuss the importance of building a strong team when working to revitalize a church. This topic is the third of their "five big rocks" of church revitalization, following unity and leadership.
The conversation begins by emphasizing the biblical foundation for team ministry. Nathan points out that even Jesus sent his disciples out in teams (Mark 6:7, Luke 10:1) and the Apostle Paul always worked with a team in his ministry endeavors. The hosts also cite Proverbs 11:14 and 15:22, which highlight the wisdom and success that come from havi...
Ep.04 | Soul Care for Pastors | Dale Sellers
Navigate change and reorient to a new and hopeful future
In this episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, host Bart Blair interviews Dale Sellers, Executive Director of 95Network, a ministry focused on serving and resourcing small to mid-sized churches. Dale shares his personal journey in ministry, the mission of 95Network, and the importance of soul care for pastors.
Dale recounts his early years in ministry, traveling with his wife in a music group and noticing the discouragement among pastors and church leaders. After pastoring a church for 12 years, experiencing a split, and closing the church, D...
Ep.03 | Rock #2 - Leadership
In this episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, hosts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant discuss the critical role of leadership in church revitalization. As the second of their "five big rocks" of revitalization (unity, leadership, team, plan, and launch), leadership is identified as the most important component for success in renewing a church's vision and direction.
The hosts begin by emphasizing the biblical pattern of God calling leaders to guide His people through significant challenges and changes. They reference Psalm 78:70-72, which describes how God chose David to shepherd Israel with integrity and skill. This passage...
Ep.02 | Engines of Church Growth | Jim Brown
Ep.02 | Engines of Church Growth | Jim Brown
In this episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, host Bart Blair interviews Pastor Jim Brown of Grace Community Church in Goshen, Indiana. Pastor Jim shares his experiences leading the church over the past 28 years, from when he first arrived as a young pastor to a congregation of just 60 people, to the thriving multi-campus church it is today with over 2,600 attendees.
Pastor Jim reflects on the importance of maintaining a balance between ministry and family life, noting his structured lifestyle while still prioritizing time with his wife, children...
Ep.01 | Rock #1 - Unity
Episode 1 Show Notes:
In this inaugural episode of the Revitalize My Church podcast, hosts Bart Blair and Nathan Bryant discuss the importance of unity within the local church, especially as it relates to church revitalization. Drawing from biblical passages such as Psalm 133, the hosts emphasize that unity among believers leads to a spiritual anointing that enables the church to move forward in its mission.
The conversation highlights the challenges that pastors and church leaders face when attempting to lead their congregations through renewal without first building unity. The hosts stress the significance of communicating the...
Ep.00 | A Brand New Podcast
Welcome to our brand new show.
In this episode you’ll get to know Nathan and Bart and learn a bit about why we decided to start this podcast. After you listen to this one, jump right over to Episode 1!